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« on: November 13, 2015, 04:52:33 PM »

how terrible.

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Re: Paris
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2015, 05:21:07 PM »
Massive Josh Homme fan. Pretty worried about that one, but also for the fans. Being stuck in a theater like that must be devastating on the nerves.

edit : Just heard about the toll in the concert theater. Open fire and bombs being thrown into the crowd. I can't fathom the horror people are feeling right now.
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Re: Paris
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2015, 05:37:01 PM »
Is it true that one of the guys was one of the ones obama released from guantanamo?




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...an ‘Islamic State’ is desired in Eastern Syria to effect the West’s policies in the region.

Astoundingly, the newly declassified report states that for “THE WEST, GULF COUNTRIES, AND TURKEY [WHO] SUPPORT THE [SYRIAN] OPPOSITION… THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A DECLARED OR UNDECLARED SALAFIST PRINCIPALITY IN EASTERN SYRIA (HASAKA AND DER ZOR), AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPPORTING POWERS TO THE OPPOSITION WANT, IN ORDER TO ISOLATE THE SYRIAN REGIME…”.

The DIA report, formerly classified “SECRET//NOFORN” and dated August 12, 2012, was circulated widely among various government agencies, including CENTCOM, the CIA, FBI, DHS, NGA, State Dept., and many others.

The document shows that as early as 2012, U.S. intelligence predicted the rise of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL or ISIS), but instead of clearly delineating the group as an enemy, the report envisions the terror group as a U.S. strategic asset...

Secret Pentagon report reveals West saw ISIS as strategic asset
Anti-ISIS coalition knowingly sponsored violent extremists to ‘isolate’ Assad, rollback ‘Shia expansion’
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According to the newly declassified US document, the Pentagon foresaw the likely rise of the ‘Islamic State’ as a direct consequence of the strategy, but described this outcome as a strategic opportunity to “isolate the Syrian regime.”...
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Re: Paris
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2015, 06:44:00 PM »
100+ dead in one theater alone, and attacks in at least 5 other locations. 8 gunmen still on the loose, nobody allowed in or out of the country

obama was on tv this morning talking about his jv team being contained...

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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2015, 06:48:21 PM »
cnn security expert on tv blaming snowden leaks for the gunmen knowing how to avoid detection...
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I wonder if they're going to find a way to blame russia too
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Re: Paris
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2015, 07:15:29 PM »
Fuck, this is horrible.

Every time things like this happen I feel for my Muslim friends who are gonna have to deal with shit from dumb bigots every day for the next few weeks.

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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2015, 07:38:28 PM »
As much as I pride myself on being anti war and open minded to the idea of "one mans terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." I fully support our planets eradication of ISIS. Regardless if this attributable to them or not.

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Re: Paris
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2015, 07:55:56 PM »
Terrible. The amount of deaths is unreal...
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Re: Paris
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2015, 08:44:17 PM »
Fuck those goddamn ragheads. Isis can fuck off. Cowards.
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2015, 10:38:18 PM »
Kind of really hard to fathom something like this happening.

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Re: Paris
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2015, 11:15:50 PM »
Yea, there goes our election.

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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2015, 02:05:54 AM »
Kind of really hard to fathom something like this happening.
I get what you're saying - something like this happening in a place like france...

but what about the videoS of isis herding/dumptrucking HUNDREDS of people to their executions/mass graves?  One of the videos of truckloads of prisoners purported to show the process of 1,700 people being killed over one day/night...

And for the past few years they've been not just boasting about, but promising to bring it to europe/the west.

what happened yesterday might be shocking, but it sure as fuck is not surprising.  I don't mean to harp on this, but if you didn't expect stuff like this to start happening, you're doing something wrong

how will france respond?  bombing? ground troops? fucking "training the opposition?!" 

entire neighborhoods/blocks will burn, massive shelters (and detention facilities) will be set up, and from there.. what? 

until people start talking about jailing/interrogating obama, mccain, clinton, and others who supported all this, things are only going to continue down this road, and acting surprised just makes you look stupid, especially if you were in the armed forces...
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Re: Paris
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2015, 02:18:18 AM »
alaskun, this isn't the time or place to talk your usa conspiracy bullshit.

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Re: Paris
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2015, 02:26:19 AM »
The BBC reported that the French President was at the stadium prior to the attacks but left to visit the Interior Ministry.
No one seems to have made mention of an assassination attempt and I hadn't seen it reported anywhere other than the BBC/WKOW site, but that can't be a coincidence that there were 2 bombings at the stadium that he was in attendance. 
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Re: Paris
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2015, 02:37:36 AM »
alaskun, this isn't the time or place to talk your usa conspiracy bullshit.
you're right, who cares why any of this happened? who cares that it was entirely predictable, preventable, or that some of the perpetrators likely had some sort of western support/influence/training at some point in their careers.

Let's just wait until next time. Maybe then we'll look into what caused it, or maybe we'll just blame it on the people who told us it was coming? 

Let's just focus on our feelings here, forget anything that lead up to this...
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