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Re: Paris
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2015, 04:43:10 AM »
Why did you not include Bush in your list of presidents?

This attack makes a lot of sense - an attack on the most accessible country that is involved in the attacks on the middle east. UK and USA have sea borders, much easier to get into France. Also, US rock concert and large football match targeted, both prime examples of western culture. Maybe they're pissed off with us fucking around in their countries?
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2015, 05:33:25 AM »
Why did you not include Bush in your list of presidents?
it wasn't a list of presidents. hillary clinton and john mccain had a lot more to do with libya/syria/ukraine/this whole mess than just running for president...

why didn't I name cheney, or rumsfeld, or anybody else who hasn't been in the news for the past eight years?   "and others"


This attack makes a lot of sense - an attack on the most accessible country that is involved in the attacks on the middle east. UK and USA have sea borders, much easier to get into France. Also, US rock concert and large football match targeted, both prime examples of western culture.
I don't know about the accessibility stuff, but I'm pretty sure the stadium/theater have more to do with crowd psychology than some sort of attack on culture/arts/sport..  people will be thinking twice about attending mass gatherings in general, not just american concerts or soccer games, but anything else that takes place in a stadium/theater/bar etc...   entire cities' infrastructures have to change in a not-so-friendly way for the kind of security those things can require...
  I hope I'm wrong
Maybe they're pissed off with us fucking around in their countries?

maybe most of them have dark hair? maybe most of them are men?  maybe most of them have blood?
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2015, 07:42:28 AM »
They attacked soft targets. What they could get. The bombs were outside the football stadium as the stadium would have been the only place with any real security. But they are all western ways of life really, restraunts, gig, football. Certainly not military targets so surely it's an act of terror and not war?  They're also claiming it's in response to the air strikes, didn't jihadi John get reported dead as a result of one in the last few days?
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2015, 03:26:57 PM »
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rough chronology of attacks

Paris prosecutor made at a press conference the chronology of the attacks.

21:20: the first explosion in the Stade de France.

21:25: at 21:25 Paris, people who were in the bar and restaurant Le Carrillon Petit Le Cambodge were targets of Kalashnikov shots fired from inside a vehicle type Seat Leon. At this time, the balance realized 15 killed on the spot.

21:30: a second explosion at the door H Stade de France. On site, it was discovered a body of a suicidal second with a device similar to D. door of the bomb first

21:32: in Paris, at the corner of Faubourg-du-Temple and rue de la Fontaine au Roi, a new shooting in front of the bar "La Bonne" makes five deaths and eight seriously injured. The first witnesses identify a black car brand Seat

21:36: the number of 92 Charone street hears new shots, fired by suspects arriving in a black seat, causing the death of 19 people.

21:40: in the restaurant "Comptoir Voitaire", a suicide bomber is made explode injuring one person seriously and making several minor injuries.

21:30: In Paris, a black color car park in front of the Bataclan. Three individuals with weapons of war leave the vehicle and enter the concert hall, opening fire in full concert of the "Eagles of Death Metal" and making hostage fans attending the concert. Witnesses said the terrorists talked about Syria and Iraq. During the police assault, the three terrorists were killed by the first shot of the security forces, the other two detonated a belt of explosives. "The victims count points, this time to 89 dead and many wounded."

21:40: Saint-Denis, 400 meters from the Stade de France, in the rue de la Cockerie happens a third explosion caused by a suicide bomber.

apparently it's been confirmed that at least one of them was a syrian refugee.

don't complain about the sources, look at what's being reported. the whole time they've existed they've been threatening/promising to bring it to the west...

July 2015: ISIS Vowed to ‘Bring Slaughter to France, Fill the Streets of Paris with Dead Bodies’
http://www.prisonplanet.com/july-2015-isis-vowed-to-bring-slaughter-to-france-fill-the-streets-of-paris-with-dead-bodies.html
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/july-2015-isis-vowed-to-bring-slaughter-to-france-fill-the-streets-of-paris-with-dead-bodies/

NEW ISIS VIDEO WARNS OF ATTACKS ON GERMANY.
april 14 2015
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=323_1429066834

ISIS posted a video threatens 'blood will spill like an ocean' soon in Russia
nov 12 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JWSsI1ZSNM

etc.

also from the day before the attack. why have I not seen or heard about this anywhere?
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12 nov 2015

MASSIVE TERROR RAIDS ACROSS EUROPE INVOLVING MANY COUNTRIES TO DISRUPT HUGE PLOT

ARRESTS IN BRITAIN, NORWAY, FINLAND, GERMANY, ITALY, SWITZERLAND LINKED TO ONE MASSIVE PLOT

PLOT INVOLVED 17 IRAQI KURDS WHO HAVE BEEN ARRESTED

http://news.sky.com/story/1586323/four-in-terror-recruiting-ring-held-in-uk
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Police in Italy had issued 17 arrest warrants for Iraqi Kurds in the Europe-wide blitz.

Norwegian media is reporting that a jailed Iraqi-born cleric and two others are being held on suspicion of their involvement in an alleged terror plot in Italy.

FURTHER ARREST IN GREECE , PLOT RELATED TO ITALY

GROUP WERE ALL KURDS FROM ANSAR AL-ISLAM GROUP WHICH MERGED WITH ISIS LAST YEAR

FURTHER SIX ARRESTS IN ITALY, THREE ARRESTS IN NORWAY

POLICE CURRENTLY CONDUCTING DETAILED SEARCHES OF 26 PREMISES ACROSS EUROPE

http://www.politico.eu/article/europe-police-dismantle-major-jihadist-network-krekar/
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/618925/People-arrested-Italy-suspicion-international-terrorism

PLOT LINKED TO THE KIDNAPPING AND MURDER OF DIPLOMATS AND POLITICIANS ACROSS EUROPE - INCLUDING SIMULTANEOUS ATTACKS ON EMBASSY STAFF IN THE MIDDLE EAST

THE MOST IMPORTANT POLICE OPERATION IN EUROPE IN THE PAST 20 YEARS - GIUSEPPE GOVERNALE, HEAD OF ITALY'S COUNTER TERRORISM UNIT

ALL FOUR ARRESTED IN THE UK WERE REFUGEES AND NOT BRITISH NATIONALS - COUNTER TERROR COMMAND

POLICE SAY SOME MEMBERS OF GROUP HAD ALREADY LEFT FOR SYRIA AND IRAQ

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qaddafi warned us that if we deposed/killed him, he would 'flood europe with blacks."  So we killed him.

assad has been warning that the same thing would happen with syria, and saying that us funding/training/arming terrorist 'rebel' groups would spread terrorism throughout europe among the refugee cover.  so we've been trying to kill/overthrow him, creating isis and a refugee crisis in the process. funny how that works.

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Greece threatens to flood Germany with refugees
march 2015

Defence minister Panos Kammenos, who is also the leader of Independent Greeks (Anel), Syriza's right-wing partner in the ruling coalition government, made the controversial statement last Sunday when addressing party members.

"If Europe leaves us in the crisis, we will flood it with migrants, and it will be even worse for Berlin if in that wave of millions of economic migrants there will be some jihadists of the Islamic State too," Kammenos said.

Greece Backtracks Over Threat to Send Jihadist Refugees to Germany
3/13/15
http://europe.newsweek.com/greece-backtracks-over-threat-send-jihadist-refugees-germany-313717

Greece's defence minister threatens to send migrants including jihadists to Western Europe
09 Mar 2015
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11459675/Greeces-defence-minister-threatens-to-send-migrants-including-jihadists-to-Western-Europe.html


...The risk of state bankruptcy Greece has again threatened with forwarding tens of thousands of refugees to Europe. "If they put a hit Greece, they should know that ... migrants will get travel papers and go to Berlin," Defense Minister Panos Kammenos said Sunday at a meeting of his right-wing populist party "Independent Greeks"...

"Paris Attacker Was Syrian “Refugee” Who Arrived in Greece Last Month"


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don't expect it to stop any time soon



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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2015, 03:43:09 PM »
Might change the public opinion on direct action, perhaps it will result in politicians opting for attacking ISIS harder.

The major effect I foresee is that the situation in Syria and Iraq will worsen which will obviously lead to greater misery for the local population. The public opinion and view of the refugees will most probably also worsen, leading to greater misery for the ones that decided to flee. All in all just worse situation for people already in a bad situation.

So rather pointless action taken by ISIS (if it now was just them) which only hurt local population. 

Hopefully more countries than Iran will opt to put some boots on the ground. Highly doubt the cost-effectivity and military point in further airstrikes. Seem to only level cities with million dollar bombs without much effect anyway.
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Re: Paris
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2015, 03:48:43 PM »
ISIS confirmed they were responsible and that the attacks were a direct response to French air strikes in Syria
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2015, 04:09:09 PM »
Conflict News ‏@Conflicts 35 minutes ago
BREAKING: Second suspected #Paris attacker very likely to have passed through #Greece - Greek government source - @Reuters

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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2015, 05:03:59 PM »
I've been waiting patiently for this to happen. Like 9/11 put us in Iraq/Afghanistan, but was totally staged by us, this puts nato in Syria, so the USA can take Assad out of power, our ultimate goal. Russia won't have none of that. Hello ww3. No disrespect to any lives lost, I just saw this coming a long time ago.
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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2015, 05:19:07 PM »
I've been waiting patiently for this to happen. Like 9/11 put us in Iraq/Afghanistan, but was totally staged by us, this puts nato in Syria, so the USA can take Assad out of power, our ultimate goal. Russia won't have none of that. Hello ww3. No disrespect to any lives lost, I just saw this coming a long time ago.

Nato or the coalition would never attack Assad straight on, especially now after Iran and Russia sided with Assad. If anything Assad will be the key to bring ISIS down.
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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2015, 05:37:56 PM »
I've been waiting patiently for this to happen. Like 9/11 put us in Iraq/Afghanistan, but was totally staged by us, this puts nato in Syria, so the USA can take Assad out of power, our ultimate goal. Russia won't have none of that. Hello ww3. No disrespect to any lives lost, I just saw this coming a long time ago.

Nato or the coalition would never attack Assad straight on, especially now after Iran and Russia sided with Assad. If anything Assad will be the key to bring ISIS down.
very true, I see a major boots on ground campaign happening real soon, without Syrians permission. And all we've been blaming Assad for breeding terrorism when in fact they brought in Russia to take out said terrorists. But we won't cooperate with Russia to take out Isis, because we're not worried about Isis, we want Assad gone. Let's just keep arming rebels and pretending like Isis is the issue. The United States of America is the bad guy right now
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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2015, 09:37:15 PM »
this isn't even scratching the surface.  tldr; fucking arrest them


West 'ignored Russian offer in 2012 to have Syria's Assad step aside'
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/15/west-ignored-russian-offer-in-2012-to-have-syrias-assad-step-aside
15 September 2015
Exclusive: Senior negotiator describes rejection of alleged proposal, since when tens of thousands have been killed and millions displaced

Cause of Syria's Incredible Bloodshed Is Finally Confirmed: In 2012, Russia was willing to negotiate Assad’s stepping down. Washington ignored that, expecting to impose (not negotiate with Russia) a government of Washington’s (Obama’s) choosing.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/09/cause-of-syrias-incredible-bloodshed-is-finally-confirmed.html

A WikiLeaks document shows US had plans to destabilize Syria since 2006
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3lk4pz/a_wikileaks_document_shows_us_had_plans_to/
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06DAMASCUS5399_a.html

According to documents leaked by WikiLeaks, a secret treaty among Qatar, Turkey and Saudi Arabia shows they intended to overthrow the Syrian government. Western powers like France, Britain and the United States were also involved.
http://www.ibtimes.com/wikileaks-publishes-more-documents-revealing-saudi-connection-against-syria-united-1988251
http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3bt2e4/according_to_documents_leaked_by_wikileaks_a/


Ron Paul: How Many Refugees Were Leaving Syria Before U.S. Regime Change?
https://youtu.be/YzA28C61LVE
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3kdm3o/ron_paul_how_many_refugees_were_leaving_syria/

WikiLeaks Reveals How the US Aggressively Pursued Regime Change in Syria, Igniting a Bloodbath
Friday, 09 October 2015
http://www.truth-out.org/progressivepicks/item/33180-wikileaks-reveals-how-the-us-aggressively-pursued-regime-change-in-syria-igniting-a-bloodbath

US may have provoked EU refugee crisis on purpose: Russian State Duma Speaker Naryshkin
http://tass.ru/en/politics/821404
September 16
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"It is clear for everyone that the United States is the ideologist behind the aforementioned interventions," Naryshkin told journalists. "I am not a supporter of conspiracy theories but the question arises by itself - is Europe the final aim of those destabilizing the situation in North Africa and Middle East over the last years with such maniacal persistence?"

Hungarian PM Accuses Soros of Stoking Refugee Wave to Weaken Europe
http://www.prisonplanet.com/hungarian-pm-accuses-soros-of-stoking-refugee-wave-to-weaken-europe.html

European Refugee Crisis - The Anatomy of a Coverup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeE4Ux4t9Vw
http://stormcloudsgathering.com/euro-refugee-crisis


 
Notice the striking similarity between Turkish Prez Erdogan’s plan and the Brookings strategy. Washington and Ankara seem to share the same view of how Syria should be carved up following the prospective invasion.
November 6, 2015
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/11/06/turkey-goes-to-war/

The Brookings Institute Plan to Liquidate Syria
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42559.htm
http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/order-from-chaos/posts/2015/06/30-deconstructing-syria-ohanlon
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Notice how O’ Hanlon never considers the moral implications of obliterating a sovereign nation, killing tens of thousands of civilians, and displacing millions of others.
August 06, 2015 "Information Clearing House" - "Counterpunch' - Here’s your US foreign policy puzzler for the day:  When is regime change not regime change?

When the regime stays in power but loses its ability to rule. This is the current objective of US policy in Syria, to undermine Syrian President Bashar al Assad’s ability to govern the country without physically removing him from office. The idea is simple: Deploy US-backed  “jihadi” proxies to capture-and-hold vast sections of the country thereby making it impossible for the central government to control the state. This is how the Obama administration plans to deal with Assad, by making him irrelevant.  The strategy is explained in great detail in a piece by Michael E. O’Hanlon at the Brookings Institute titled “Deconstructing Syria: A new strategy for America’s most hopeless war”.

Rothschild Declares Open War on Syria Through Brookings, His Sledgehammer on the US Government: “Deconstructing Syria” (No Rothschild Central Bank).
june 29, 2015
http://new.euro-med.dk/20150629-rothschild-declares-open-war-on-syria-through-brookings-his-sledgehammer-on-the-us-government-deconstructing-syria-no-rothschild-central-bank.php

"Brookings biggest contributor is the Qatari royal family. You do the math."


Ban Ki-Moon Condemns the American Stand on Syria, Endorses Putin's
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/ban-ki-moon-condemns-the-american-stand-on-syria-endorses-putins/
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/10/ban-ki-moon-condemns-the-american-stand-on-syria-endorses-putins.html
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October 31, 2015

...The U.N. Secretary General is here implicitly blaming all of this — lots of blood and misery — on U.S. President Obama, and on the “many Western countries” who ally with him and have joined with him in demanding regime-change in Syria.

The position of Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has been, and is, to the exact contrary of Obama’s: namely, that only an election by the Syrian people can determine whom Syria’s President should be. The U.N. Secretary General is here agreeing with Putin, and rejecting Obama’s demand, that the matter be determined instead by non-Syrians, and by non-democratic means (which is basically like George W. Bush did in Iraq, and like Barack Obama did in Libya)...


UK government abandons prosecution of man who went to Syria to fight Assad, because the trial was going to reveal that British Intelligence is doing exactly the same thing.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/01/trial-swedish-man-accused-terrorism-offences-collapse-bherlin-gildo
Terror trial collapses after fears of deep embarrassment to security services


"Obama Is Destroying Europe", "Dragging It Into A Crusade Against Russia" Says Former French PM
06/10/2015
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-10/obama-destroying-europe-dragging-it-crusade-against-russia-former-french-pm-german-b

Ripped From Hillary’s Emails: French Plot to Overthrow Gaddafi and Help Itself to Libya’s Oil
French intelligence plotted to overthrow Muammar Gaddafi to horn in on Libya’s oil and to provide access for French businesses.
http://fpif.org/ripped-from-hillarys-emails-french-plot-to-overthrow-gaddafi-and-help-itself-to-libyas-oil/


"WASTE OF LIFE JIHADI JERKOFF WHO MASSACRED TOURISTS IN TUNISIA WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY OBAMA & CLINTON BY DESTABILIZATION CAMPAIGN OF LIBYA"
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/tunisia-beach-killer-trained-in-libya-with-museum-attackers/article1-1364660.aspx
The young college student who killed 38 tourists in a Tunisian seaside resort was in a jihadi training camp in western Libya at the same time as the two attackers who hit the National Bardo Museum in March, a top security official said on Tuesday.


Libya: Order Out Of Chaos
http://jpsrose.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/libya-international-pillage.html
10 August 2015


Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force
January 24, 2014
exactly same graphics are used to train the willing-to-fight demonstrators
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2014/01/libya-syria-and-now-ukraine-color-revolution-by-force.html


Whenever relations between the US and a certain country deteriorate because the country is no longer keen to be the US strategic asset, human rights activists are produced to destabilize the country
http://www.rt.com/news/310406-us-kyrgyzstan-agreement-denounced/
https://larouchepac.com/20150730/putin-prepares-russia-war-west-shuts-down-us-ned
http://journal-neo.org/2015/07/31/russia-shoots-down-us-stealth-coup/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/russia-shoots-down-us-stealth-coup-tough-times-for-americas-color-revolution-industry/5466185
https://randrewohge.wordpress.com/2015/07/31/russia-shoots-down-us-stealth-coup-tough-times-for-americas-color-revolution-industry/
http://www.prisonplanet.com/washingtons-fifth-columns-inside-russia-and-china.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-u-s-is-plotting-a-color-revolution-in-russia.html

Just before Libya was bombed by NATO for "human rights abuses", Libya was about to receive a UN award for examplary human rights
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/16session/A-HRC-16-15.pdf
http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/369zih/just_before_libya_was_bombed_by_nato_for_human/

False Flag Alert on Refugee 'Crisis'?
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/september/04/false-flag-alert-on-refugee-crisis/
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September 4, 2015

... says Russian academician and historian Jelena Guskova. Guskova’s research has led her to the conclusion that what is being prepared for immediate effect is the establishment of a “Green Transversal,” a Muslim state in Christian Europe. She cites the growth of Islamic radicalism in the Balkans via Serbia’s “Wahhabi” and “Red Rose” cells, Macedonia’s “Tarikat,” and Al Qaeda cells in Kosovo and northern Albania, which in co-operation with Bosnia-Herzgovina will create the “Green Transversal.”...


Hillary Clinton sums up US strategy; Removing Assad, not #ISIS, is the top priority in #Syria
https://twitter.com/LinaArabii/status/651349283413852160/photo/1
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/05/us-usa-election-clinton-syria-idUSKCN0RZ1C020151005

Emails show Qadaffi son offered talks – but Clinton ordered top general to 'not take the call'
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/06/emails-show-qadaffi-son-offered-talks-but-clinton-ordered-top-general-to-not/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3nu3s6/emails_show_qadaffi_son_offered_talks_but_clinton/


As Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton bought into the neocon/liberal-hawk agenda which spread the chaos of Iraq across Libya, Syria and now into Europe. How Clinton approached those challenges suggests that she would head down the same “regime change” path as President, Rick Sterling explains.
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/09/29/hillary-clintons-wicked-syrian-choice/


Libya: Four Years Down the Road - NATO illegal War ruined Lybia!
10/24/15
http://journal-neo.org/2015/10/24/libya-four-years-down-the-road/


Hillary Clinton Owns the War in Libya
And its horrible aftermath.
https://reason.com/archives/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-owns-the-war-in-libya
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3q5i2n/hillary_clinton_owns_the_war_in_libya_and_its/
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October 23, 2015

...one of the most politically relevant topics examined by the House Benghazi Committee is her insistence that Libya was not a "disaster."

Over and over, in fact, Clinton argued that Libyans had elected "moderates" and that democracy had thrived and that all things were peachy (though she does concede there were security risks). And she was still praising the Arab Spring long after its collapse into violent radicalism across the Arab world.

At first I wondered, how could she maintain something so obviously contestable? Then I realized, how could she not?

Rep. Peter Roskam (R-Ill.) spent his entire time attempting to push Clinton to own the Libya intervention. Democrats joked on Twitter that Roskam had conclusively proved that yes, Clinton was secretary of state. But it was much more.

She reiterated that she was the chief architect of the war in Libya. Clinton has to claim that the U.N.-authorized Libyan air campaign in 2011 was a model of successful foreign intervention, because Clinton was the one who urged Barack Obama, over the strong misgivings of others, to intervene in that civil war. She brought the Arabs on board. She articulated many of the administration's arguments.

Later, after the whole thing fell apart, she would falsely blame some obscure video for the whole thing.

Since then, Libya has fragmented into two rival factions, which have erased any pretense that democracy or freedom exists in the country. There are mass collective punishments as tens of thousands of political prisoners are thrown into camps. Violence is up. Proliferation of weapons has increased. Causalities have spiked since the war. Ansar al-Sharia, the group accused of murdering American diplomats, is more powerful now than it was before the U.S. got involved.

One estimate says that militias have grown from an estimated 40,000 fighters in 2011 to 160,000 today. This is now the place where Coptic Christians are marched out onto beaches and beheaded. The war has created a refugee crisis...

What ambassador in Benghazi was really doing: The U.S. special mission in Benghazi and the nearby CIA annex were utilized in part to coordinate arms shipments to the jihadist rebels fighting the Syrian regime, with Ambassador Christopher Stevens playing a central role.
http://mobile.wnd.com/2014/09/finally-revealed-what-ambassador-in-benghazi-was-really-doing/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3px5ru/finally_revealed_what_ambassador_in_benghazi_was/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/10218288/CIA-running-arms-smuggling-team-in-Benghazi-when-consulate-was-attacked.html


Mrs. Clinton provided material assistance to terrorists and lied to Congress in a venue where the law required her to be truthful.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/1/andrew-napolitano-hillarys-secret-war/
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...Many of the rebels Mrs. Clinton armed, using the weapons lawfully sold to Qatar by Mr. Turi and others, were terrorist groups who are our sworn enemies. There was no congressional declaration of war, no congressional vote, no congressional knowledge beyond fewer than a dozen members, and no federal statute that authorized this...


UN Inspector (well known Carla del Ponte) Says Syrian Rebels Used Chemical Weapons, Not Assad (May 2013)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXmzBFyXvVI

Hersh Vindicated? Turkish Whistleblowers Corroborate Story on False Flag Sarin Attack in Syria
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/23/hersh-vindicated-turkish-whistleblowers-corroborate-story-on-false-flag-sarin-attack-in-syria/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3q0sya/hersh_vindicated_turkish_whistleblowers/

Seymour Hersh, in an interview with Diken, claims that Turkish intelligence and military were behind the sarin gas attack in Syria
http://www.diken.com.tr/seymour-hersh-in-an-interview-with-diken-claims-that-turkish-intelligence-and-military-were-behind-the-sarin-gas-attack-in-syria/
10/04/2014

US and UN Responsible for Alleged ISIS Chemical Attack Against Kurds in Iraq
August 14, 2015
http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-and-un-responsible-for-alleged-isis-chemical-attack-against-kurds-in-iraq.html
Mustard agent at al-Muthanna raided by ISIS sold to Saddam Hussein

False Flag Proof! NATO ally Turkey supplied chemical weapons to FSA terrorists, thereby producing Obama's "Red Line" for Syrian attack!
And, it seems they were trying again before they were caught!
http://presstv.ir/Detail/2015/10/27/435215/Turkey-lawmakers-CHP-Syria-sarin-gas
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3qiams/false_flag_proof_nato_ally_turkey_supplied/


The United States Institute of Peace's Hawkish Chairman Wants Ukraine to Send Russians Back in Body Bags
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/08/01/u-s-institute-peace-chair-calls-military-response-global-conflicts/
Aug. 1 2015
"The United States Institute of Peace is a publicly funded national institution chartered by the U.S. government to promote international peace through nonviolent conflict resolution..."


#Ukraine's Ministry of Defense official publicly offers help to #ISIS in 'identifying the #Russian pilots'
Top Ukraine official backs idea 'to help ISIS take revenge on Russian soldiers in Syria’
https://www.rt.com/news/317849-ukrainian-russia-isis-revenge/

Analysts say Kiev authorities in fact team up with Islamic State
http://tass.ru/en/opinions/828995

Post-Maidan Ukrainians Eager to Help ISIS Kill Russians
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?anno=2&depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=en&tl=sk&u=http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/post-maidan-ukrainians-eager-help-isis-kill-russians/ri10431&usg=ALkJrhgc3pQJ-nWzohY6cMEY15DYc4Hk2A


John McCain To Arm Rebels with STA Missiles To Shoot Down Russian Jets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM-bV19J6w8
Quote
10/01/2015
McCain initially responded to Fox News host Neil Cavuto’s question about whether he would shoot down Russian planes by saying no, but then went on to assert that he would arm Syrian rebels to carry out that very same task.

“I might do what we did in Afghanistan many years ago, to give those guys the ability to shoot down those planes, that equipment is available,” said McCain, adding that the Free Syrian Army would shoot down the planes, “just like the Afghans shot down Russian planes after Russia invaded Afghanistan.”

McCain is referring to how the United States armed Islamic militants in the 1970s, a policy that led to the rise of the Taliban, Al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood and Osama Bin Laden.

Senator McCain is opposed to Russia’s bombing of ISIS terrorists because he believes that Moscow is using this explanation as a cover to attack US-backed Syrian rebel forces who are trying to topple Bashar Al-Assad...


British SAS Special Forces “Dressed Up as ISIS Rebels” Fighting Assad in Syria
http://www.globalresearch.ca/british-sas-special-forces-dressed-up-as-isis-rebels-fighting-assad-in-syria/5466944
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3fvfop/british_sas_special_forces_dressed_up_as_isis/
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/595439/SAS-ISIS-fighter-Jihadis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRH3SJHSuc4
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42547.htm
Operation Shader – attacking Syrian targets on the pretext of combating ISIS.


US-Trained Special Forces Chief Joins ISIS, Vows To Bring Jihad To Russia & America
http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-trained-special-forces-chief-joins-isis-vows-to-bring-jihad-to-russia-america-2.html
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-29/us-trained-special-forces-chief-joins-isis-vows-bring-jihad-russia-america

ISIS fighter was trained by State Department
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/29/politics/isis-man-trained-in-us/index.html

U.S. training helped mold top Islamic State military commander
September 15, 2015
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/middle-east/article35322882.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3l44yl/us_training_helped_mold_top_islamic_state/

One of ISIS' top commanders was a 'star pupil' of US-special forces training in the country of Georgia
http://www.businessinsider.com/omar-al-shishani-isis-commander-and-us-2015-9



there's a lot more. how bout that nobel peace prize...



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alaskun, wasn't about 'feelings' was about your tinfoil hat conspiracy nonsense potentially clogging up a serious discussion thread. but you went there anyway, i see.

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