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« Reply #375 on: March 18, 2009, 03:15:16 AM »
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As a response to the statement that "every other cunt in the states has one,"  that is as much a generalization as saying that everyone in the UK has horrible teeth or something like that.  The only people on the board that have strong views about firearms are the ones that own them.  

Just because your country is different and all uptight about their crime rate, which has gone up a significant amount in the past 15 years, does not mean that it is a correct way to live or better than any other way.

Crime here isn't so bad, I would bet that I live in a safer area than you do.  I don't need a gun, I have never needed a gun, but I like to have them just in case I ever do.  I cannot carry concealed weapons in my state.  America isn't like the fucking wild west.

Security has something to do with owning a gun, but paranoia?  C'mon, maybe some people, but not most.

I don't like to argue about guns because I feel like its the same as abortion and just keeps getting thrown about.  

There is nothing wrong with guns, there is something wrong with people that use them for evil purposes, and by the way, most of those are unregistered, illegal and people with felonies already.

i'm not saying there's anything wrong with guns at all, no idea where you got that from. it's just a hobby in many respects.

if people have guns due to a fear of crime, yet have never had to use them would you not say that wasn't being paranoid? note that i'm not saying being  paranoid is a bad thing either. it can help. going by what people are saying on here, allot of criminals have guns, so if every other cunt has a gun, i'd have one. it'd be irresponsible not to!

i really, really doubt you live in a safer area than i do.... crime on my estate is pretty much zero. maybe the odd bit of graffiti or littering, but that's it. don't know where you get your stats from about crime, perhaps the daily mail? if you're really bothered - http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/crime-victims/crime-statistics/ crime is down on last year.
we may have a lower murder rate than the usa, and a declining crime rate, but we have a higher theft and assualt rate. the proliferation of guns in the usa is a main factor in that, be they illegally owned or not.  

so you can't carry a firearm, my friend in washington state has a permit to do so, but doesn't see the need to. he just likes to have the option. some of your laws vary from state to state.

i've no problems with guns, i've lived in countries where the police walk around with grenade launchers and citizens drive around tooled up. as long as it's a level playing field, it's not an issue for me.
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« Reply #376 on: March 18, 2009, 03:22:05 AM »
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just bought a m91/30 and m44 on sat!

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« Reply #377 on: March 18, 2009, 03:26:56 AM »
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Crime rate over here hasn't gone up, lets not get into that again. Its been done to death and proved wrong.


Remember this source paulie provided?


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« Reply #378 on: March 18, 2009, 03:40:37 AM »
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Remember this source paulie provided?[/IMG]


Yup, seems like you've forgotten the explanation though.

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« Reply #379 on: March 18, 2009, 04:08:33 AM »
why hasn't anyone posted this yet.




i've also been looking to get a red ryder.
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« Reply #380 on: March 18, 2009, 07:22:31 AM »
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why hasn't anyone posted this yet.




i've also been looking to get a red ryder.

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« Reply #381 on: March 18, 2009, 08:07:55 AM »
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not necessarily, you have the right to bear arms, it doesn't specify what kind. Some cities have laws on what kind of weapons you can own.



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« Reply #382 on: March 18, 2009, 01:33:49 PM »
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Yup, seems like you've forgotten the explanation though.


No, I didn't forget.  I just don't buy it.

I also don't put much into a crime SURVEY.

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« Reply #383 on: March 18, 2009, 05:18:08 PM »
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Remember this source paulie provided?



not really sure about that wheelr, it looks like a microsoft screengrab from firefox...

it'd be a bit hard for me to provide that using macs and safari. but if you want to lose yet another moot point (uk crime on the decrease) go ahead, please try to prove me wrong.

statistics and surveys, pfft. why let them get in the way of good propaganda?:p
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« Reply #384 on: March 18, 2009, 05:24:07 PM »
It's from a Home Office link you previously posted.

Let's just say I believe the police report statistics more than some sampled crime survey.

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« Reply #385 on: March 18, 2009, 05:25:36 PM »
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gun shop has them for 100 bucks each. i should have gotten 3 and a another shotty but i spent it on a revolver for my mom
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« Reply #386 on: March 18, 2009, 05:36:04 PM »
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It's from a Home Office link you previously posted.


when? the last time or recently? :rolleyes:

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Let's just say I believe the police report statistics more than some sampled crime survey.


it makes no difference. where do you think the home office gets their stats from? did it not occur to you that the police report crime?

crime is on the decrease in the uk, it has been for years. i still don't get your point. you post about how dangerous the usa is regarding shootings, we post about how safe the uk is with gun crime being so rare. we agree! i'm not saying the uk is safer regarding assault or theft. infact, i've already stated theft and assault stats are higher in the uk than the usa.

but our murder rate is way below yours.

what are you trying to say? i'm just posting the facts.
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« Reply #387 on: March 18, 2009, 05:44:07 PM »
If you look I posted the stats in response to pimpa$aurus' statement.  All I said regarding you was that it was from a source you provided.

Also, I posted the page which only included violent crimes against a person.  I don't post "how dangerous the usa is regarding shootings".  I think all violent crimes against another are of concern, not just gun related incidents.

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« Reply #388 on: March 18, 2009, 10:14:53 PM »
i hate how any thread about guns always turns into a debate on the 2nd amendment and gun control.

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« Reply #389 on: March 18, 2009, 10:26:14 PM »
i have guns ( wasr10 , witness 9mm , .38 ) but some of you guys are nuts , what do you really need all those guns for?
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