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The Lounge / Re: Paris

« on: December 03, 2015, 03:08:31 PM »

so yesterday a couple of muslims killed 14 people with assault rifles and attempted IEDs in california. I say "couple of muslims," not because I hate muslims, but because before their identities were known, just like with the boston bombing, most media was speculating loudly that it was white domestic terrorists.
This morning obama's on tv saying "it could be workplace violence."

meanwhile racism is terrorism. flying the confederate flag in an area where people might get offended is terrorism.
being mean/a bully is terrorism.
environmental activism/investigative journalism is terrorism.
peaceful protest is terrorism.
filming police/tsa in public is terrorism.
hacking is terrorism.
file sharing is terrorism.
toy guns or gun imagery is terrorism.
flea markets selling bootleg dvds/clothes is terrorism.
gardening is terrorism. selling milk is terrorism.

everything under the sun is being labeled as terrorism. ridiculous cases all across the country for the past decade... yet there's "a chance" that what happened yesterday in san bernadino isn't?  Why not?

reminds me of this from 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDoNgdlEqK8

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The Lounge / Re: Paris

« on: December 02, 2015, 01:16:34 PM »

11/30/2015 Erdogan: I will resign if any oil purchase from Daesh (#ISIS) is proven

Russian Market Retweeted;
Erdogan asks if Putin is ready to resign if his accusations against Turkey are not confirmed - TASS reports

today - Russian military reveals details of ISIS-Turkey oil smuggling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMA4B2ZnQ2o
https://www.rt.com/news/324252-russian-military-news-briefing/

-The photos and footage used in the media briefing have been published on the Defense Ministry’s website.
http://syria.mil.ru/news/more.htm?id=12070708@cmsArticle

-Russia doesn’t expect Turkish President Erdogan to resign in the face of the new evidence, even though he had promised to do so. His resignation is not Russia’s goal and is a matter for the Turkish people.

-Russia cannot comprehend that such a large-scale business as oil smuggling could not have been noticed by the Turkish authorities. Russia concludes that the Turkish leadership is directly involved in the smuggling.

-The US-led coalition has failed to intensify strikes on oil tankers and other IS oil infrastructure. Russia will send intelligence on potential targets to coalition members, assuming that a lack of intelligence may be the reason for their hesitance.
 
Russia, for its part, will continue attacking the oil business of the terrorists and expects the US-led coalition to do the same...

ha

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The Lounge / Re: New Random Thoughts Thread

« on: December 02, 2015, 01:14:40 PM »

i keep getting screwed up signing in/getting sent to different posts.

random thought from yesterday - I had just installed a woodstove, the first one I've ever had, and I was thinking about ways to clear ashes. A shop vac would be sweet, but it's plastic, the filters are paper, etc...   What about an aluminum one, with printed/sintered metal filters/hose bits...  That's what I want.

also


sitting in a jewelry shop right now and that hashtag bullshit is killing me

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The Lounge / Re: Pretty sure I've invented this trick...

« on: December 02, 2015, 02:12:31 AM »

Would love to see one on a down rail

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The Lounge / Re: Pretty sure I've invented this trick...

« on: December 01, 2015, 06:24:44 AM »

I'll be so psyched if this is the next evolutionary twist in bmx, or even if it takes another decade. kids getting as good at this stuff as they are now at stuff that was videogame-level/impossible circa 2000 would be so amazing.






matthias dandois talks about it heading that way in this...
http://thecomeup.com/tv/tcu-tv-the-matthias-dandois-alex-jumelin-interview/

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The Lounge / Re: Pretty sure I've invented this trick...

« on: December 01, 2015, 06:20:09 AM »

awesome, now go faster

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The Lounge / Re: Paris

« on: December 01, 2015, 06:18:46 AM »

^ "more than 100,000 fake Turkish passports had been given to ISIS :US Army’s Foreign Studies Military Office (FSMO)"

NATO is harbouring the Islamic State - Why France’s brave new war on ISIS is a sick joke, and an insult to the victims of the Paris attacks

and germany and the uk just said they won't be coordinating/sharing flight info with russia.




this story's making the rounds as of about an hour ago

Turkey YouTube ban violated freedom of expression: Europe court
http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-youtube-block-violated-freedom-expression-europe-court-104403342.html

december 1 2015

Strasbourg (France) (AFP) - The European Court of Human Rights ruled on Tuesday that Turkey had violated conventions on freedom of expression when it banned YouTube for more than two years.

An Ankara court had barred access to the video-sharing site from May 2008 to October 2010 over 10 videos deemed insulting to modern Turkey's founding father Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the Strasbourg-based rights tribunal said.

...

The lengthy ban on YouTube -- and thousands of other websites -- had prompted widespread concern about freedom of expression under then prime minister and now President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who critics say has become increasingly authoritarian.

...

The government of Erdogan's Justice and Development Party (AKP) also blocked Twitter and YouTube in March 2014 after they were used to spread a torrent of audio recordings implicating Erdogan and his inner circle in a corruption probe.

Turkey shuts off YouTube after 'Syria invasion plan' leak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW423rCw1kc

Access to YouTube has been cut off in Turkey after an explosive leak of audiotapes that appeared to show ministers talking about provoking military intervention in Syria. Other social media have already been blocked ahead of tumultuous local elections.

The latest leaked audio recording, which reportedly led to the ban, appears to show top government officials discussing a potential attack on the tomb of Suleyman Shah, the grandfather of the founder of the Ottoman Empire.

The tomb is in Syrian territory, but protected by Turkish soldiers.

On the tape, Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu is heard saying that Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan sees any attack as an "opportunity" to increase Turkish presence in Syria, where it has staunchly supported the anti-Assad rebels. Security chief Hakan Fidan then goes one step further, and suggests staging a fake attack to give Turkey a casus belli to intervene in the conflict...

Abby Martin talks about a leaked conversation between Turkish officials discussing a planned false flag operation to justify starting a war with Syria - Mar 28, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBk0HGfI_wM

Turkey's False Flag Plan: What you're not being told
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW4i-YeJzUY

Published on Apr 2, 2014

TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=8975

Late last week, a conversation between high-ranking Turkish officials was leaked online purporting to expose a plan that had been devised to use a staged attack on a Turkish target in Aleppo as a pretext to start a war with Syria.

any military guys still reading this... how do you feel about the idea of being sent to defend this asshole?

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The Lounge / Re: Paris

« on: November 30, 2015, 06:37:16 PM »

^ The former DIA chief who did the interview about that memo said this in an interview yesterday

SPIEGEL ONLINE: In recent weeks, Islamic State not only conducted the attacks in Paris, but also in Lebanon and against a Russian airplane over the Sinai Peninsula. What has caused the organization to shift its tactics and to now operate internationally?

Flynn: There were all kinds of strategic and tactical warnings and lots of reporting. And even the guys in the Islamic State said that they were going to attack overseas. I just don't think people took them seriously. When I first heard about the recent attacks in Paris, I was like, "Oh, my God, these guys are at it again, and we're not paying attention."

Now look at what lindsey graham said (starting about 12 seconds in) about turkey ignoring nato rules of engagement/international law by shooting down the russian jet...

"Turkey punched Russia in the nose, good for Turkey.  Russia's very provocative, they're killing the people we've trained to take Assad down."

Do you think graham, mccain, etc just "aren't paying attention" to the consequences of arming terror groups to topple governments? They've created isis, and are now openly cheering on/pushing for war against russia.  they need to be arrested/interrogated.

Today I went to work, had some really good Ethiopian food, bought a tube so I can ride this week sometime. Went home and read somebody's retarded viewpoints that could get him killed in a totalitarian regime. Good thing we don't live in a totalitarian regime.

what about starting wars with russia in defense of one?

Turkish Authorities Jail Two Journalists, Accusing Them of Espionage over report suggesting Turkish intelligence ferried weapons to extremist Syrian rebels
http://www.wsj.com/articles/turkish-authorities-jail-two-journalists-accusing-them-of-espionage-1448577964
Turkish newspaper editor in court for 'espionage' after revealing weapon convoy to Syrian militants
26 Nov, 2015
https://www.rt.com/news/323557-turkey-arrests-editor-cumhuriyet/

US Embassy Turkey Verified account ?@USEmbassyTurkey
https://twitter.com/USEmbassyTurkey
1:56 AM - 27 Nov 2015
(1/2) We are very concerned by the arrests of @candundaradasi & @erdemmgul and what appears to be yet another media outlet under pressure.
(2/2) We hope the Turkish courts & authorities will uphold the fundamental principle of media freedom enshrined in the Turkish Constitution.

REMINDER = Serena Shim

US Government Still Silent on American Journalist Murdered for Exposing Turkey’s ISIS Ties
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0GrcQ9kXbI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serena_Shim

On October 17, 2014, Shim told Press TV that the Turkish National Intelligence Organization (MIT) had accused her of "spying".[5] She stated that it is "probably due to some of the stories she had covered about Turkey's stance on the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant militants in Kobanê".[6] She had reported that ISIL militants being smuggled over the Turkish border into Syria on trucks bearing the symbols of NGOs like the "World Food Organisation". Shim, said on air she's "a bit frightened" by what MIT "might use against me."

Jacky Sutton, the former BBC journalist found dead in Istanbul Turkey airport: who was she and what really happened?
http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/friends-of-jacky-sutton-the-former-bbc-journalist-found-dead-in-airport-she-was-sensible-calculating-a3096726.html

Those who knew Sutton are struggling to understand the death of a woman who they say was “unflappable, committed to creating a free press in the Middle East, talented and not at all rash”

TL;DR Turkey kills reporters

the group said to be persecuting/killing them?

Turkish intelligence chief: ISIS is a reality and we must stop Putin from crushing the Islamic revolution

    18 October 2015

Ankara--- Hakan Fidan, the head of Turkey's National Intelligence Organization, known by the MIT acronym, has drawn a lot of attention and criticism for his controversial comments about ISIS.

Mr. Hakan Fidan, Turkish President's staunchest ally, condemned Russian military intervention in Syria, accusing Moscow of trying to 'smother' Syria's Islamist revolution and serious breach of United Nations law.

“ISIS is a reality and we have to accept that we cannot eradicate a well-organized and popular establishment such as the Islamic State; therefore I urge my western colleagues to revise their mindset about Islamic political currents, put aside their cynical mentalité and thwart Vladimir Putin's plans to crush Syrian Islamist revolutionaries,” Anadolu News Agency quoted Mr. Fidan as saying on Sunday...

this just happened the other day too

Pro-Kurd Turkish head of bar association shot dead on live TV

28 nov 2015

A day after Turkey arrested two journalists for their report exposing Erdogan's weapons deliveries to "extremist groups" in Syria, confirming that no dissent to the president's foreign policy would be allowed, today a new riot has erupted in Istanbul following the dramatic murder in broad daylight of Tahir Elci, the president of the Turkish bar association in southeastern Diyarbakir province, who was shot dead by unidentified gunmen while giving a public speech...

public's response with firework/molotov/laserpointer warfare...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAwB57mdldA

stuff is going to get crazy, and the EU/NATO are siding with the side who sides with isis?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/622958/Turkey-75-million-people-EU-migration-Ahmet-Davutoglu-Angela-Merkel
http://www.newsweek.com/european-union-turkey-set-sign-migrants-deal-399293

Conflict News ‏@Conflicts 11/30/2015
- BREAKING: NATO allies give #Turkey their "full support" in its right to defend airspace
- NATO's Stoltenberg: All allies fully support #Turkey's right to defend its airspace

seriously, turkey broke a bunch of laws/rules of engagement to shoot down a russian jet to protect isis oil infrastructure, and has been supporting terrorists and totalitarian craziness for years.  I'm sorry if these posts annoys you guys, but I feel like people should be talking about the inevitability of more terrorist attacks/war, or paying attention to the people who are responsible/calling for it...

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The Bike Shop / Re: Chain breakers

« on: November 28, 2015, 02:56:25 AM »

Doesn't the shadow work only with their halflink chain?

definitely works on 510s, 410s, keychains, department store chains, etc

I've had mine a few years and haven't damaged the pin or any threads yet.

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The Lounge / Re: Paris

« on: November 27, 2015, 02:10:00 PM »

http://news.yahoo.com/us-knew-flight-path-plane-downed-turkey-putin-202631534.html

Russian President Vladimir Putin speaks with French President during a meeting at the Kremlin in Moscow on November 26, 2015

Moscow (AFP) - President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Russia had given prior information to the United States of the flight path of the plane downed by Turkey on the Syrian border.

"The American side, which leads the coalition that Turkey belongs to, knew about the location and time of our planes' flights, and we were hit exactly there and at that time," Putin said at a joint press conference with French counterpart Francois Hollande in the Kremlin.
...

"They [our planes] have identification signs and these are well visible," Putin said. "Instead of [...] ensuring this never happens again, we are hearing unintelligible explanations and statements that there is nothing to apologize about."

the president of turkey actually says that if anybody should apologize for a russian jet/helicopter being shot down over syria, it's russia...

VIDEO - Erdogan: Russia should apologize - CNN
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/669901386973360129


then he says russia/assad are the ones arming/funding isis...

"If you are seeking the source of weaponry and financial power of Daesh, the first place to look is the Assad regime and countries that act with it,"


and then he threatens to start a war if his planes are shot down over syria...
http://en.apa.az/news/235559

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan told CNN International his country will consider it an act of aggression if Russia takes down a Turkish plane violating Syrian airspace.

“In this case Turkey will be forced to take measures that will certainly not be discussed. And of course it would be an aggression against our rights of sovereignty and it’s the natural right of the state to protect those rights. We do not want to see any escalation of the situation in the region. We do not want to become a party to that. But those who side with Syria and escalate the tension, I think, are the responsible parties to this,” Erdogan said.

and our government/media is supporting him...

It is in the Turkey rulers interest to contain the Kurdish seperatists... Claiming however that they take ISIS side is just silly and something that sells articles.

The DIA/pentagon documents show that turkey HAS/DOES take the side of extremists for the purpose of taking out assad.

...the newly declassified report states that for “THE WEST, GULF COUNTRIES, AND TURKEY [WHO] SUPPORT THE [SYRIAN] OPPOSITION… THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A DECLARED OR UNDECLARED SALAFIST PRINCIPALITY IN EASTERN SYRIA (HASAKA AND DER ZOR), AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPPORTING POWERS TO THE OPPOSITION WANT, IN ORDER TO ISOLATE THE SYRIAN REGIME…”.

The DIA report, formerly classified “SECRET//NOFORN” and dated August 12, 2012, was circulated widely among various government agencies, including CENTCOM, the CIA, FBI, DHS, NGA, State Dept., and many others.

The document shows that as early as 2012, U.S. intelligence predicted the rise of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL or ISIS), but instead of clearly delineating the group as an enemy, the report envisions the terror group as a U.S. strategic asset...

...

The following is excerpted from the seven page DIA declassified report:

 R 050839Z AUG 12

…

THE GENERAL SITUATION:

A. INTERNALLY, EVENTS ARE TAKING A CLEAR SECTARIAN DIRECTION.

B. THE SALAFIST [sic], THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, AND AQI ARE THE MAJOR FORCES DRIVING THE INSURGENCY IN SYRIA.

C. THE WEST, GULF COUNTRIES, AND TURKEY SUPPORT THE OPPOSITION; WHILE RUSSIA, CHINA AND IRAN SUPPORT [ASSAD].

We didn't really need to be told that though - if you've been paying attention over the years you'd have seen a ton of evidence that turkey's a major support base. I could post a ton of links about weapons shipments, fighter transport/protection, money/oil/prisoner deals, etc...  but you shouldn't need them.

Part of the gameplan laid out in that memo, as well as in the brookings institute study, as well as part of erdogans stated goals, is still being pushed for - the 'safe zones.'  I hear it on the radio every day as part of "obama's failure to take out assad, enforce the [false flag chemical attack] red lines, and create safe zones."  They say we're in the predicament we're in because obama wasn't successful with those things - no mention of the fact that those things are what's causing the predicament in the first place.


for you to say that the idea of turkey siding with IS/rebel terrorists "is just a way to sell articles" is flat-out retarded

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The Lounge / Re: Paris

« on: November 26, 2015, 11:30:48 PM »

Will you even acknowledge what's being said, or are you just going to say you don't like who said it?  Do you disagree with what he said?  Ok, I posted a link to a page that out-updated the quote I posted... Will you acknowledge the quote? Or who said it, or what it means for the next few years, or how it compares to warnings from the same person/people over the past few years? 

Germany just announced they're joining the "coalition against isil."  What about all the people they're bringing in who won't be happy with that?  Do you think they'll be bombing just isis? Obama and the people/nations who support him are still acting like assad has to be removed...

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The Lounge / Re: Paris

« on: November 26, 2015, 06:32:34 PM »

is anyone going to actually point out how anything I posted was "deluded?" or are we still just making stuff up/calling names because I annoy you? 
Am I anti-health because I (rightly) criticized obamacare?  Nobody's going to comment on the absurdity of being labeled anti-environment for questioning the government's motives?

in before "you're deluded if you think anybody is going to click/read..."


how about obama so far taking turkey's side in this, anybody going to comment on that/what it shows/how it's similar to past support for bad actors/what it could lead to?


I heard this quote again on the radio earlier... Putin: Downing of Russian jet over Syria stab in the back by terrorist accomplices

and it was bugging me all afternoon after seeing these along with the turkish convoy getting bombed and the area around where the plane/chopper were shot down getting obliterated...

PUTIN: WE INFORMED THE U.S ABOUT FLIGHT PATHS OF OUR PLANES. "THIS RAISES MANY QUESTIONS"

Turkey enters the war on the side of ISIL" says VP of Italian Senate

Putin: "Apparently, IS now not only receives revenue from the smuggling of oil, but also has the protection of a nation’s military, Putin said. This may explain why the terrorist group is so bold in taking acts of terrorism across the world"

it seemed familiar and I couldn't figure out why. then I remembered...

It seems like they want to accomplice as much as possible before being bombed to heaven comes.

freudian slip, or deliberate?

accomplice;
    a person who helps another commit a crime.
    synonyms:   partner in crime, associate, accessory, abettor, confederate, collaborator, fellow conspirator, co-conspirator

just thought it was kind of funny that turkey was the one to take that role

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The Lounge / Re: Paris

« on: November 25, 2015, 02:39:46 AM »

It's funny that you're acting bratty about a 7 dollar tube and equating that to freedoms being lost...   The city I live in has the second or third highest cost of living in the country.  The city's recently made it so they can fine/eventually arrest people for using woodstoves, while deliberately keeping energy prices high, at the same time that the power company has had more outages than ever.   Do you think that's going to get any better with people like obama pushing for carbon taxes and other phony environmental punishments?


energy, natural resources, fish and game, industrial/manufacturing, etc... walk into a real world work place and make your little joke about constitutional rights, as if nothing's changed in the past 7 years, and see how many people laugh

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The Lounge / Re: Paris

« on: November 24, 2015, 04:04:54 PM »

America does shady things. Sure a lot of it is completely unjustifiable in hindsight but no one could've ever known how the future would've turned out.

bull. fucking. shit. plenty of people warned against exactly what's happening right now, but...

America is the best chance in equality the world has right now. You can talk all these erosions of freedom and what nots but we're still living a better life than most regardless. It's not perfect but fuck man we have a black president and that says a lot whether you agree or not.

you're seriously fucking retarded.  So the president/leading political figure pushing hardest to divide/erode certain rights is somehow the bastion/protector/guardian saint of those rights? Just because he's black?

You used the word "still."  Ok, for how much longer?  Do you not see things changing for the worse? At what point will you, if ever, acknowledge that the worsening is deliberate? sure we're "still" free in many senses, but those freedoms are/have been under regular/increasing attacks, and the president is at the front of that assault. Claiming the color of his skin as some sort of proof that we're not getting screwed... you're crazy.

People [like me] have been accurately calling out the obvious repercussions [of arming terrorists while demonizing free speech and other basic rights] over the past few years, and people like you have been trying to shut the discussion down because A) "that's crazy talk", or B) the black president can't be criticized, because "nevermind all the evidence that shit is getting bad and that he's lying to cover for/progress it, his skin color/position is proof/a symbol of everything that makes this country great." 
nonsense, garbage, not factual in the least, totally ignorant, probably racist...
His color/politically correct infallibility is being used against us, which is another thing we/I called out, and you're here acting like it's our saving grace.



get fucked

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The Lounge / Re: Paris

« on: November 24, 2015, 01:00:19 PM »

one of the rescue choppers being blown up with a tow missile.  https://www.youtube.com/v/IschF-ihjS0
hey, where did they get those weapons anyways?

@Conflicts 3 minutes ago
#Turkey/#Russia
- 1 Su-24 shot down
- 1 pilot conf. dead
- 2nd likely dead
- 1 Mi-8 rescue helo forced to land
- Hit by TOW, 1 of crew dead

would this be happening if we hadn't been overthrowing countries/supporting terrorists the past few years?  arrest them...