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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: September 10, 2012, 08:11:51 PM »

. .  . But I also felt the back end/BB height might not be to my taste as well. . . .

i can respect that.  you might like some of the STANDARDs better (with 21"tt and 12.5" bb).  12.75" bb would have the same bb rise (+1.75") as 20"s and the Model C and Wave C 24", and i think that would rock too.

just seems like bmx selling its soul and not really knowing why.

if bmx's soul requires that everyone ride the same bike, whether age 12 or 32 or 5'1" or 6'4", then i'm glad you're the Savior, guarding the gates to bmx heaven. meanwhile i'll still be digging and riding, hell bent.

and, you've got a lot of catching up to do: time to persecute FBM and Volume for making fixies, Fairdale for making commuter cruisers, Standard for making custom mtb 29'ers, all riders who have taken money from energy drinks, junk food, and  sunglass companies, or ever dropped in on a Mega Ramp, and just about every bmx company for going to Taiwan and abandoning American-made.    

but, i don't condemn these companies.  and my bmx brain (and penitent heart) is big enough to handle a wheel size option for a few underground riders who dig it.

better example of selling out ? :  http://vimeo.com/44909160

152

The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: September 07, 2012, 08:04:11 PM »

Pepper G.'s InDust 2ton 22".  Made in Texas.  21.75"tt, 14"cs. SuperTherm main tubes. Profile stem, hubs, and cranks. S&M fork.

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: September 05, 2012, 08:25:38 AM »

I was going to get out of bmx for good, but after reading this comment i would really like to give the holmes a try.

I have never actually ridden a supergoose or any other mongoose from that era, but i got my first bike in 1991, which felt a lot different than today's low and twitchy frames. I too am 9' 11" and 33 years old. Didn't really get to ride any of the bikes that i build over the past 10 years, but i currently own a 20.75" tt fly Pantera 4, which i'm not too happy with when trying to bunny hop. It's not a bad bike, but it doesn't feel 100% right either.

I rode a 24" wtp cruiser, which felt a bit heavy and too big. Do you think i should try the holmes? If so, where did you guys order your sets and how much did you spend? Thanks.

http://www.sandmbikes.com/all-products/frames/frame-holmes-22

154

The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: August 31, 2012, 05:12:52 PM »

Hmm. I'm 6'4 with a 36" inseam.  Any idea how that'd feel?

For the InDust 2Ton 22" frame that I posted earlier in this thread, http://www.bikeguide.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3557644&postcount=157 Vernon and I went with a longer front end (21.75") and shorter back end (14").   I'm 6'1", 35.5" inseam.   I have a 22.25"tt Liquid Feedback 24" and I've also ridden the 22"tt Liquid and the 22"tt Sunday Wave C 24" . . . and when I rode 20"s, I typically liked 21.5"tt the best, so 21.75"tt seemed to be an ideal size for larger trails frame for 22" wheels.    I've got STANDARD 9"s on it right now, which is taller than I used to ride, but I've been experimenting with taller setups and it feels great.

The InDust Cuatro 24" (with 22.3"tt) and the InDust 2Ton 22":

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: August 16, 2012, 11:57:12 AM »

21.25 huh?

Yeah, it also states a shorter cs than the proto. (Proto was 14.5", right ? Was that slammed ? )

156

The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: August 16, 2012, 07:58:50 AM »

. . .  Can't wait for the holmes.

 

sick !  
 

http://www.sandmbikes.com/all-products/frames/frame-holmes-22

157

The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: June 21, 2012, 08:06:11 PM »

jcordera's STANDARD 22".  !! 2012 is becoming the year of the 22. heh heh.



http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237841&p=3800306&viewfull=1#post3800306

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: June 21, 2012, 11:14:25 AM »

I fucking hate how people make these bigger bikes, and put smaller bars on them. Like they should be the same height as a 20" for some bizarre reason. Make that shit HUGE, 12 inch bars and it'd be a giant BMX instead of some shit that's impossible to bunnyhop like a 20incher.

heh heh, do you even ride a 24"?  but, yeah, a lot of guys are already running full size bars on 22"s and 24"s.      

Chester with the S&M proto 22" with Perfect 10"s:





http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237841&p=3797143&viewfull=1#post3797143

i tried Perfect 10"s on my Liquid Feedback 24", but they were too tall.  some guys are running 6"s on the Liquid but most are running 8"s.

my Liquid bike
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/f61/my-liquid-bike-227386/

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: June 19, 2012, 08:30:43 PM »

sickness!

21 TT seems crazy small. toe clearance? my 20 inch bmx is longer than that..... :p

may be a little short for trails after you're used to longer frames, but i could still see it feeling amazing as an all-around bike.  would love to check it out.    toe clearance shouldnt be an issue because the front wheel is only an inch bigger in each direction, so it would be a very similar toe clearance as a 20" with 20"tt.

160

The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: June 19, 2012, 03:28:24 PM »

Charlie (from bmxmuseum) built up a sweet STANDARD 22". His has +1.5" bb rise (12.5"bb) and 21" top tube.  Killer!


http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=3534258#p3534258

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: June 19, 2012, 01:35:51 PM »

BB still felt kinda low for my taste.  If you grew up with a racing backround I could see how you would really like this geo.  And like Vern mentioned, his front tire is crazy tall so it does raise the BB height a little bit.

Yeah, as an XL trails frame we did want the feeling to be more "in" the bike rather than above it. Yet the bb is still 1.125" above axle level.  (And its taller than the Zeitgeist's +0.75"). So it's not 'low' like when you're talking about race 24"s that have the bb at axle level.  The first 2ton proto was 1.5" above axle.   That raw Standard a few pages back had 12.5bb as well, and I think the Amero does too.  I definitely appreciate the Model C and Wave C with 1.75" above axle level as freestyle 24"s, especially with big bars they feel awesome to me.  It will be cool to see the different versions or approaches to 22" geos and setups.

162

The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: June 19, 2012, 10:16:28 AM »

posted on S&M's facebook the other day:

163

The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: May 25, 2012, 10:13:03 AM »

Vernon's InDust 22" built up.  ... :



http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=3525380#p3525380

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: May 08, 2012, 11:48:06 PM »

the latest InDust 22" (one of 3 made in this run) . . . .

* All SuperTherm. 5 lbs. 0.6 ounces.
* 21.75"tt, 14"cs (to center of 14mm axle slammed), 12 1/8" bb height
* Front Eclat hub & Velocity rim.
* rear Faction Zeitgeist stock wheel
* Profile 180mm's raw, S&M 28t spline drive sprocket
* S&M top loader stem, S&M Grand Slam XLT bars
* S&M custom 22" fork

165

The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: April 05, 2012, 08:28:14 PM »

Amero looks nice and will be available soon.  But it only has clearance for a 26t chainwheel.

that's not uncommon with bigger wheeled bikes that also have short chainstays. (they have to bow out to accept the wheel that close to the bottom bracket).  the Liquid Feedback 24" is the same.  the Sunday Wave C 24" as well if I'm not mistaken.

check this out. just a little experiment as I'm waiting for my custom frame. an S&M 22" fork and 22" wheels on a We The People Avenger 24" frame (same geo as 1st gen Model C--21.25"tt, 13.75"bb). the shorter fork drops the bb a bit, but it still looks like a good height. and the head angle is not as affected as i thought it might be. it looks highly rideable. of course the brakes won't line up and you're not getting the benefit of a shorter cs designed around a 22" wheel.