Sunday Funday Final Details

[band aid]

Straight from Sunday's site:

Aaron Ross Funday!!!!!

Here's the check out of the new Aaron Ross Funday frame. The frame drawings have been finalized so its off to production now with an arrival date of after the first of the year.

TT 20, 20.5, 20.75 and 21 HT 74.5 ST 71
RE 13.5 based on a 30-10 or 27-9 gearing
BB Mid 11.5 Weight 4.8lbs
Colors Blue, Black Magic
Features All Second Wave features, removable gyro tabs on frames w/mounts, extra cable guide, Aaron's name embossed on stay caps and completely customizable sticker kit.

http://www.sundaybikes.com/uploaded_images/sunday_funday_sidefull2-736721.jpg

http://www.sundaybikes.com/uploaded_images/Funday_Front_Long-759031.jpg

http://www.sundaybikes.com/uploaded_images/Funday_Front_Half-758498.jpg




I for one am super stoked on this, and will definitely be picking up a blue 20" when they're out.

[Macaroni Sandwich]

Its not long enough. We need more companies that always make a few 21.25 frames atleast.

Tall dudes, back me up.

[Gamlin]

sunday with removable gyro tabs! finally!

[ezrabmx]

looks sick
really dig the stickers:p

[atxboy]

Its not long enough. We need more companies that always make a few 21.25 frames atleast.

Tall dudes, back me up.

Idk man, i recently switched from a 21.125 tt frame with a 75 to a 21" 2nd wave and it feels way bigger for some reason?

[Anon.]

Slightly underwhelming considering the months of hype, but it seems a pretty solid frame.

[Sneaker]

Want a sunday with a rearend shorter than 13.75 and 11.75" bb...:mad2:

[streetStreet]

So whats the difference between the other sunday frames?

Funday and Aross?

[bluebmx]

if it was a 11.75bb i'd already have pre-ordered one, even if that isn't yet possible.

[Eggit2]

To sum things up, .25 shorter rear end and .25 lower BB. Gyro tabs (removable) and lighter.

Where did they take the extra weight from?

[incarcerated]

So whats the difference between the other sunday frames?

Funday and Aross?

bottom bracket hieght!! dropped .25

who wants to buy my howler when this comes out?

EDIT: ^^beat me to it.

[k.fox]

I can't wait to get a 20" one in black.

[I<3Bike]

wow i really like that! i was looking for something with a shorter rear end when i got my luna

[Banana Pancake]

100% agree that they need a longer tt available. i know "they're coming", but now would be nice.

[StreetJ]

Looks so good.

[stairmeister650]

where is the cable stop? It just shows to two cable guides on the frame, but there is no stop where the barrel adjust goes? WTF?

[band aid]

where is the cable stop? It just shows to two cable guides on the frame, but there is no stop where the barrel adjust goes? WTF?

you can just put a barrel adjuster in the cable stop and it works

[big_papa_nuts]

To sum things up, .25 shorter rear end

depends on how they measured it. the 13.75 measurement on the 2nd waves seems to be center to center. if this is measured the same it's gonna have a mad short rear slammed.

[sokoloka]

100% agree that they need a longer tt available. i know "they're coming", but now would be nice.Werd.

Tall people unite!

[Laz]

Werd.

Tall people unite!

Yes!

Longer frames!

[Danno]

Looks good, I'm guessing thats the new Ocean Blue colourway?

[band aid]

depends on how they measured it. the 13.75 measurement on the 2nd waves seems to be center to center. if this is measured the same it's gonna have a mad short rear slammed.

Does the second waves slam at 13.5" then? I might take a 2nd wave over the funday if so. I think I want to experiment with a higher bb height since I'm running 11.5" now.

[JohnW]

I know the OGs slam at 13.75...not sure about Second Waves.

[sundaze]

nice!!

[mutinous]

Pretty sad, they were supposed to be out late fall. Ive been waiting since I read they were coming out with a frame that was 11.5. I guess preordering one is the best I can do short of more bitching. Blue 21 no brakes, excited!

[weedbix]

Aren't the 2nd Waves 4.something lb too?

And my New Wave seems to be 13.75" slammed, I have 30:11 with no half link (so xx.375" & xx.875" lengths) and there's a 1/8" gap. But it's not a 2nd Wave so I dunno.

[Jobson]

I'm way way way jazzed that they are finally offering a 20" toptube coupled with the shorter rear end.

Pretty smart move.
I'll be purchasing as soon as it drops.

[big_papa_nuts]

Does the second waves slam at 13.5" then? I might take a 2nd wave over the funday if so. I think I want to experiment with a higher bb height since I'm running 11.5" now.

mine slams at about 13.65".

[marko]

Make it in 21.5!

[poo_head]

i like how they didnt have the cut on the cable stop and not on the other guide.

smart thinking sunday.

[Solidwasp15]

What happened to all the other cool colors?

[my name is joe]

i wonder how much this shits going to cost. probably at 350-400.. which is ridiculously priced with todays economy

[Tom Bro]

If my pantera 2 ever dies I might invest in one of these suckers. Nicest frame I've seen out in a loooong time (for me...and mind you I haven't really been looking.)

[Corbz]

Its not long enough. We need more companies that always make a few 21.25 frames atleast.

Tall dudes, back me up.

Backed up. (Although I have a 21.25 sunday.)

[Sneaker]

mine slams at about 13.65".

So it should be the same on the Ian s2 wave.

So he is again in my decicion for a new frame :)

[xmidwestmikex]

looks good

[Cankles]

Its not long enough. We need more companies that always make a few 21.25 frames atleast.

Tall dudes, back me up.


!!!!!!!!!

kmon jim, you promised

[big_papa_nuts]

So it should be the same on the Ian s2 wave.

So he is again in my decicion for a new frame :)

i would assume so.

[sircles]

paint in the headtube :O

[PatG]

!!!!!!!!!

kmon jim, you promised

Backed up. (Although I have a 21.25 sunday.)

Yes! Longer frames with longer rear ends and higher bb's!

[i am hollywood]

So wait...

The Funday to the Wave2 has about the same amount of differences as a Dakota to a 3.5

Why is there less hate?

[bluebmx]

So wait...

The Funday to the Wave2 has about the same amount of differences as a Dakota to a 3.5

Why is there less hate?

there is a big bb height change and maybe a slight chainstay difference (matters who is measureing right now) and i think a few oz difference maybe? the dak and 3.5 are the exact same geo and weight.

[rully]

double standard anyone..?

[big_papa_nuts]

dak to an s 3.5 is a matter of a gusset and and 1 or 2 different tubes. he could just ride a custom and no one would know.

the funday has a couple major geo changes. thus making sense to make it a "signature" frame.

[PatG]

double standard anyone..?

BB height alone makes a huge difference.

[streetStreet]

I woudlnt go as far as saying major changes.

[i am hollywood]

BB height alone makes a huge difference.

Does anyone else remember when frame geo didn't mean as much?

[joe p.]

paint in the headtube :O

I'm going to guess the photos were taken before the headtube and BB were reamed.

[lifeloveregret]

paint in the headtube :O

haha, I thought this. Not sure if it will make any difference to the headset although I had to take sandpaper to my ovoid headtube when I got it.

I remember getting pieces of card in my crank shell form older frames; didn't really matter then but with the integrated headset/cupless BB age its quite important.

[Leon_Sumbitches]

So wait...

The Funday to the Wave2 has about the same amount of differences as a Dakota to a 3.5

Why is there less hate?

Because where the Funday has all of the features that make Sunday frames so good, but with significantly different geometry, the Dak/3.5 have the exact same geometry and slightly different tubing, making them the same to ride.

[greentalks43]

Is it me or is the paint in the integrated headset cups not something you want?

[Leon_Sumbitches]

Is it me or is the paint in the integrated headset cups not something you want?

Pretty sure the production frames, like all current and previous Sundays will not have paint in the BB or HT.

[stairmeister650]

Why does ian shwartz (pegless guy who rides backwards all day) get a heavier frame then ross?

[JohnW]

Why does ian shwartz (pegless guy who rides backwards all day) get a heavier frame then ross?

It has an integrated Pivotal post and he grinds on the frame...

And I think everyone here knows what Ian Schwartz does.

[Big Ben]

Its not long enough. We need more companies that always make a few 21.25 frames atleast.

Tall dudes, back me up.

negative, id really like to go down to a 20.75 but cant afford or really justify it

[band aid]

Yea I'm 5'10", and I'm going to get this in 20". Don't really think you could consider me tall but I don't see the need for a frame over 21" unless you are 6'5" plus and have back issues.

[sammyjoe010]

Yea I'm 5'10", and I'm going to get this in 20". Don't really think you could consider me tall but I don't see the need for a frame over 21" unless you are 6'5" plus and have back issues.

well obviously you wouldnt, being 5'10". seriously though, 21" feels short to me these days and im around 6'3".

[i am hollywood]

Because where the Funday has all of the features that make Sunday frames so good, but with significantly different geometry, the Dak/3.5 have the exact same geometry and slightly different tubing, making them the same to ride.

Back when I use to race, I went from a 125 Motocross, to a 125R, to a prototype with the same geo... the tubes were "slightly" different, but they did NOT feel the same.

[Kyle V.]

Does anyone else remember when frame geo didn't mean as much?

I don't but I'd imagine it's because so many people want to make things so much easier for them. "OMG if my CS isn't 13.2 there's no way I'm going to be able to manual or 360. 74 degree HT?! NO WAY IM NOSE MANUALING!"

[Leon_Sumbitches]

I don't but I'd imagine it's because so many people want to make things so much easier for them. "OMG if my CS isn't 13.2 there's no way I'm going to be able to manual or 360. 74 degree HT?! NO WAY IM NOSE MANUALING!"

I hate that kind of thing ("trick specific" geo), it is silly. But having geo that you are comfortable on will make you ride better and enjoy it more.

[Chris Ehh]

I'm happy I didn't wait for the Funday and went ahead and got my wave. Look's good though.

[band aid]

Anyone wondering about the colours...I emailed Jim and he said that it will be blue and black magic for now, and that there will be more colours coming later.