Multimedia

Author Topic: finally new powerbites.  (Read 10642 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline MEAT

  • I AM THE LAW
  • Global Moderator
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 517
    • View Profile
Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2014, 02:22:48 PM »
The inserts look different my guess is theyre riveted in?

Offline machete

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 199
    • View Profile
Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2014, 05:04:07 PM »
Seriously. Once the pedal insert gets sorted out with some loctite Powerbites are pretty much fool proof.
You know this and so do I,also many others do as well,yet there are a few that find it so damn difficult to do this very simple step in making something alot better....it's just easier for them to wine and cry I guess.

Offline Cole

  • Terribly Lonely
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2717
    • View Profile
Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2014, 05:31:01 PM »
I had powerbites for a couple of years and had the insert come out once. Like mentioned, put some threadlock on it, grease the pedal spindles and its good to go. Would most certainly look at getting these if I still had a bike.
Quote from: Sir smashalottavaginis;3362940
Damn.  Now I\'m torn between c***s or satan

Offline Thomas031

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 181
    • View Profile
Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2014, 05:36:30 PM »
The inserts look different my guess is theyre riveted in?

Looks like it. Also looks like it's slightly beefier.

Actually feeling quite good about these, can't wait to see them IRL.
"Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity" - Carlin

Offline Stoked

  • dood.sweet
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1800
    • View Profile
Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2014, 05:50:21 PM »
If any other newer style crank needed locktite to work properly, you guys would shit all over them
Quote from: i am hollywood;3458649
The Ezra 'Q' freecoaster should be out in time to put on your 2012 christmas list

Offline Bunky

  • Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!
  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 5738
    • View Profile
Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2014, 06:07:58 PM »
F#ck you Primo!

Why?

Because Brian Foster, that's why.
Quote from: G
this website is essentially an irrelevant back-water of the internet

Offline dude...

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2264
    • View Profile
Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2014, 04:25:15 AM »
I don't think anyone bought them to tell you how it went. Ask seth kimbrough

Lol hahah. He's still our reli-rock hero though!


i nearly threw up when i saw these. 2 piece powerbites? arreeeeeuuuurrrrrghhhhhhhh fuck you primo
......
these new ones are disgusting though, another colossal primo fail

I don't really see where you're coming from. But i respect your point of view nonetheless.

It's just, they look 99,9% like the old powerbites, which imho weren't badly designed or shaped. You just need to like alloy cranks.
So to me,  saying those look disgusting is saying any power/hollowbite looks disgusting.

That's opinion. But what is so fail about it?
I don't see how there's anything wrong with 2-piece since everybody and their dog are producing 2 piece cranks.

The 2 piece design allows for these nice big hollow axles, and without these axles your cranks are nót going to sell these days.
Basically it's reduced in weight, while maintaining strength, plus they've updated the crankarm connecting interface to something that is going to outperform the previous design.

Doesn't sound bad to me. 

Your maintenance rules are right on, if you have 'old school' power/hollowbites; not a bad thing to say about it.
But the industry moved on to bigger and better things, Primo adjusted their design to the specs of todays consumers, and kept it looking like the same stuff.

If you ask me, apart from knowing how the inserts perfom, i'd say Primo did a good job on 'keeping up' 3 years late.
JUST like with their first female cassette.

That's a whole other story though, not smart but regardless, i still like to think Primo is a good company heh heh.

its pretty pointless making a crankset that was designed as a 3pc into a 2pc. for years after i started the only 2pc crank out was some dodgy sounding khe one, they were a joke. its only cos of wombolts (which were designed to be 2pc from the start) that they became viable again.

the main downside is for sprocket removal/replacement, if you run your sprocket on the side of the cranks with the fixed arm, you have to take the whole thing out to replace it.
this also goes for adjusting crankarm/bb spacing etc. might not be an issue for many people but its a definite inferiority of 2pc cranks compared to 3pc.

theres also the point that if you have an issue with a 3pc crank arm, its possible to fit a replacement easily. if you stuff up the fixed arm on a 2pc you pretty much might as well buy a whole new set of cranks

plus now it seems like the majority of companys are moving to splined sprockets in a 22mm or 24mm interface, so in fact primo are not really tailoring their range to what the consumers want.


what i hate most is the aesthetics. over the last few years primo has taken some of its most trusted and revered classic parts and redesigned them making a mockery of them.
the remix with the piddley piss weak bearings in it, and now this. Primo were THE shit back 10-15 years back (before odyssey really stepped up their game), and now they come out with a load of nasty looking inferior remakes of their old parts, and rasta complete wheels. apparently the new V monster is decent, though it might as well not be a vmonster as they ditched the classic tread design

i wonder how long primo will last, seems like tips plus is gonna make way more money off stranger and cult because those are the sort of brands kids want to buy, irrespective of how good their products actually are. engineering stands for nothing in bmx because of the adolescent consumerbase who wants stuff with weed references and half assed illuminate imagery
this year i am going to have sex and it will be awesome

Offline MEAT

  • I AM THE LAW
  • Global Moderator
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 517
    • View Profile
Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2014, 06:02:53 AM »
It looks like the only thing is shares with any previous primo cranks is the basic arm profile, id say they were designed to be 2pc...?

Possibly resolved the pedal inserts.
Splined axle, so that should reduce the creaking.
The clamp area on the arm is now a more regular thickness, ie no axle corners on the top/bottom - http://www.albes.com/ProductImages/crankphotos/primopowbite.jpg so that should stop the breakages that occurred there across there.
Half as many interfaces to worry about.



Offline G

  • G-Sport
  • O.G. Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 10362
    • View Profile
    • http://www.gsportbmx.co.uk
Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2014, 06:37:03 AM »
Seriously. Once the pedal insert gets sorted out with some loctite Powerbites are pretty much fool proof.

You are seriously underestimating the level of fool that is out there.

My Powerbites were good for a long time, sure the pedal insert unscrewed everytime you removed a pedal, but it stopped after a while (never came all the way out) and then the pedal came free and then you could put a new one in (but then I always coppaslipped my pedal threads), they were sometimes a bit tight to remove (slight pinching) but I never snapped off the pinch bolt lugs like some people. Really the only issues (for me) were the weight and ankle bite.

:)
G.
G-Sport. Making the worlds finest BMX parts since 1994.

Please DON\'T try to PM me. Please Email me instead... email is g at gsport.co.uk

Offline dude...

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2264
    • View Profile
Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2014, 06:53:59 AM »
It looks like the only thing is shares with any previous primo cranks is the basic arm profile, id say they were designed to be 2pc...?

Possibly resolved the pedal inserts.
Splined axle, so that should reduce the creaking.
The clamp area on the arm is now a more regular thickness, ie no axle corners on the top/bottom - http://www.albes.com/ProductImages/crankphotos/primopowbite.jpg so that should stop the breakages that occurred there across there.
Half as many interfaces to worry about.

so stupid when they designed the hollowbites with angular edges. one of the main things people disliked about powerbites was hitting their ankles on them, so hey lets make them sharper and more pointy.
primo dropped the ball years ago now i think about it, i heard the n4fl or whatever the flangeless hub was called wobbles more than a profile, and then someone died when his primo bars snapped on a landing while riding dirt-he had a helmet on too
this year i am going to have sex and it will be awesome

Offline Prodigal Son

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2344
  • has no pubes
    • View Profile
Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2014, 11:13:26 AM »

its pretty pointless making a crankset that was designed as a 3pc into a 2pc. for years after i started the only 2pc crank out was some dodgy sounding khe one, they were a joke. its only cos of wombolts (which were designed to be 2pc from the start) that they became viable again.
.

Wasn't it fly who came out with that came out with the modern 2 piece design?

Offline Stoked

  • dood.sweet
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1800
    • View Profile
Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2014, 11:16:41 AM »

its pretty pointless making a crankset that was designed as a 3pc into a 2pc. for years after i started the only 2pc crank out was some dodgy sounding khe one, they were a joke. its only cos of wombolts (which were designed to be 2pc from the start) that they became viable again.
.

Wasn't it fly who came out with that came out with the modern 2 piece design?

I think so...they called it 2.5 pc because you still had to knock one arm onto splines.  it just didn't have a bolt holding that side on
Quote from: i am hollywood;3458649
The Ezra 'Q' freecoaster should be out in time to put on your 2012 christmas list

Offline locomotive

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 200
    • View Profile
Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2014, 02:08:30 PM »

its pretty pointless making a crankset that was designed as a 3pc into a 2pc. for years after i started the only 2pc crank out was some dodgy sounding khe one, they were a joke. its only cos of wombolts (which were designed to be 2pc from the start) that they became viable again.
.

Wasn't it fly who came out with that came out with the modern 2 piece design?

I think so...they called it 2.5 pc because you still had to knock one arm onto splines.  it just didn't have a bolt holding that side on

Shouldn't they all be called 2.5? Reason being, aren't all the "2pc" cranks still have the spindle made separately? Just because a company fixes 1 side of the crank to the spindle instead of the consumer, doesn't warrant a change in name. Plus 2pc cranks are a lot more like 3pc rather than 1pc, and the name makes it sound like they are equidistance. It's not even a big deal, and lame to even argue but I just feel like companies are trying to make something sound like an original idea by changing the name(i.e. KHE or who ever first uses that 2pc name).

Offline GUMP_

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1407
    • View Profile
Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2014, 07:05:32 PM »
That would make the old powerbites 12 piece cranks.

4x pinch bolts
2x spindle bolts
2x arm
2x pedal boss
1x spindle
1xsprocket bolt.


Offline faldfhkhfidhfid

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 105
    • View Profile
Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2014, 11:13:36 PM »
F#ck you Primo!

Why?

Because Brian Foster, that's why.

Yep and good old Stricker. Once both of them got kicked it was fuck you primo

Bikeguide.org - Bike maintenance for BMX'ers

Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2014, 11:13:36 PM »

 

-->

Tell them " Sheepdog sent you", for a little something special

Click this image for a little something special
Hello