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finally new powerbites.
« on: October 13, 2014, 05:17:35 PM »
And they seem like bullshit.
http://themerged.com/spotted-primo-2pc-powerbite-crank/

I would really like alloy cranks without pinch bolts or splines. Not both.

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Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2014, 05:59:13 PM »
at least with splines they won't creak like the old ones.

and splines and pinch bolts is a fine design imo. my preferred style of crank.
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Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2014, 06:17:41 PM »
Same shit pedal insert
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Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2014, 06:18:44 PM »
Primo is really good at making shit new versions of things. These and the mix v2. Totally missed the boat.

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Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2014, 06:59:19 PM »
I think this design beats the older design.

Square axle was prone to (yes, i've seen it happen) rounding off and allowing for play.
Axle bolts got stuck in crankarm when tightening our crankarm.
Therefore cranks would be prone to wobble if not mounted correctly.
Circular axle with crude splines will likely perform better than square and allows for hollow 22/24/25mm axle. Yayy

Moreover, i can't get used to my swaying tubular cranks after having ridden my first 2nd hand powerbite set for 8 years.
Feels like i'm fuckfooted now.

I saw the new Eclat alloy cranks and just hated the fact that they have a offset/sway just like tubular.
Loved my powerbites man.

The insert design is another issue. I don't know how much companies it takes to get a decent alloy crank design out there but it seems like since the first 'inserted' powerbites, things only went downhill with user experiences.

Really hoping this will not be another year of ignored design flaws for Primo.
Good company imho but if you ignore problems for that long.. that's just dumb.

EDIT: Does anybody know how the other brands (Shadow, any more?) did with their insert designs the last couple years? From what i've heard...
« Last Edit: October 13, 2014, 07:11:23 PM by Thomas031 »
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Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2014, 07:43:46 PM »
I don't think anyone bought them to tell you how it went. Ask seth kimbrough

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Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2014, 07:53:56 PM »
the shadow cranks should have been named horrid cranks.

i just slapped some powerbites on my bike and jumped high as fuck on some dirt jumps. thank god for not having to worry about faulty chromo cranks.

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Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2014, 10:51:25 PM »
I've got a pair of those shadow cranks. They're good.

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Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2014, 12:46:30 AM »
Once the insert comes out if the shadow cranks you cant fix them like you can with primos.  You also cant get another replacement arm. So you break you have to get new cranks.

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Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2014, 12:54:55 AM »
Shadow is fucking superb with their warranty. I had mine come loose and sent the cranks back, they sent me another pair. I've had them since they came out.

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Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2014, 04:20:17 AM »
i nearly threw up when i saw these. 2 piece powerbites? arreeeeeuuuurrrrrghhhhhhhh fuck you primo

Powerbite maintenance rules

1. grease the square ends of spindle = no creak (if you ride in the rain they will start creaking again)
2. tighten pinch bolts properly and evenly = no rounding out
3. grease pedal threads when installing = no insert coming out (ok maybe not totally true, but i find the inserts unthread a little way then stop. once you screw the new pedal back in the insert can also be screwed back in)

these new ones are disgusting though, another colossal primo fail
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Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2014, 07:40:43 AM »
I don't think anyone bought them to tell you how it went. Ask seth kimbrough

Lol hahah. He's still our reli-rock hero though!


i nearly threw up when i saw these. 2 piece powerbites? arreeeeeuuuurrrrrghhhhhhhh fuck you primo
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these new ones are disgusting though, another colossal primo fail

I don't really see where you're coming from. But i respect your point of view nonetheless.

It's just, they look 99,9% like the old powerbites, which imho weren't badly designed or shaped. You just need to like alloy cranks.
So to me,  saying those look disgusting is saying any power/hollowbite looks disgusting.

That's opinion. But what is so fail about it?
I don't see how there's anything wrong with 2-piece since everybody and their dog are producing 2 piece cranks.

The 2 piece design allows for these nice big hollow axles, and without these axles your cranks are nót going to sell these days.
Basically it's reduced in weight, while maintaining strength, plus they've updated the crankarm connecting interface to something that is going to outperform the previous design.

Doesn't sound bad to me. 

Your maintenance rules are right on, if you have 'old school' power/hollowbites; not a bad thing to say about it.
But the industry moved on to bigger and better things, Primo adjusted their design to the specs of todays consumers, and kept it looking like the same stuff.

If you ask me, apart from knowing how the inserts perfom, i'd say Primo did a good job on 'keeping up' 3 years late.
JUST like with their first female cassette.

That's a whole other story though, not smart but regardless, i still like to think Primo is a good company heh heh.
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Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2014, 12:19:15 PM »
i nearly threw up when i saw these. 2 piece powerbites? arreeeeeuuuurrrrrghhhhhhhh fuck you primo

Powerbite maintenance rules

1. grease the square ends of spindle = no creak (if you ride in the rain they will start creaking again)
2. tighten pinch bolts properly and evenly = no rounding out
3. grease pedal threads when installing = no insert coming out (ok maybe not totally true, but i find the inserts unthread a little way then stop. once you screw the new pedal back in the insert can also be screwed back in)

these new ones are disgusting though, another colossal primo fail
These 3 simple maintenace rules are very simple to follow,if you find them difficult to upkeep,you might want to consider wearing a helmet even when not riding your bike.

The easiest way to prevent the pedal inserts from coming out is this magical stuff called threadlocker,I've used it many times on many things and it really does work as advertised.

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Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2014, 02:13:29 PM »
Seriously. Once the pedal insert gets sorted out with some loctite Powerbites are pretty much fool proof.

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Re: finally new powerbites.
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2014, 02:13:29 PM »

 

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