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Re: odyssey keychain
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2014, 05:55:06 PM »
Looks pretty cool. Shucks I just bought a new kmc.

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Re: odyssey keychain
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2014, 06:07:41 PM »
it's just a allen key?

thats the impression i was under. rather disappointed it isn't

Just to clarify.

A chain breaker is needed to cut the chain initially. However the joining link/half link have allen key pins for easy removal/adjustment.

Essentially the exact same principal to a regular chain with a joining link but much better.

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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2014, 06:10:28 PM »
They are pricey but hopefully they will be worth it. Maybe a stampy test or something may convince people.

Actually I really want to see a stampy test for this.

What is a stampy test? I could google it but i'm that lazy.
Looks pretty cool. Shucks I just bought a new kmc.
I just bought a bluebird, will be rocking that until these will be available.
Sure thing i would pay the extra €€€ for a chain that saves my jewels knees and teeth.
My last chain was a KHE Collapse. Those will survive WW3. Beefy as fuck.
Now on a KMC not so kool 710 and have a bluebird ready to be built onto what will be my new bike.

If i snap the 510hx bluebird, the keychain should be more up for bashing and grinding which will make it a great investment for the 4pegged grind combo people.
Glad Odyssey never ventured into making halflink chains. Despite Odyssey's awesome reputation i'd never trust a halflink.
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Re: odyssey keychain
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2014, 06:35:57 PM »
Well technically they do still come with a half link.


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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2014, 07:07:16 PM »
i suppose Ody does this under pressure of the 'i want my axle slammed' kinda people.

Halflinks stretch, halflinks break where they're bent, just depends if it's sooner or later. They kinda lack in every feature that make a chain a good chain. No superior tensile strenght over regular chains, i believe by FAR.
Just wraps around a 8t better.

Most chains these days are up for 9t, which is what 90% of the world runs anyway.
Halflinks look snazzy though- and it looks like the halflink chains now have worthy opponents in that part of the competition.
And tbh i don't even need to ride the keychain to be able say it's probably stronger than most halflink -or normal chains.

The halflink provided with the keychain will probably use the same thickness plate that the keychain does, so it should be expected that these halflinks will out-perform regular halflinks.

« Last Edit: May 22, 2014, 07:12:53 PM by Thomas031 »
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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2014, 10:02:59 PM »
Pretty obvious just looking at the Keychain's half link that they put effort into designing a better half link to go with their chain.

I don't think Odyssey/Gsport does anything "under pressure" which is why they consistently put out parts with no gimmicks. It's pretty much a necessity to include a half link due to the shorter rear ends/smaller dropout slots that are around these days.

Any pics of the non-hollow Keychain on a bicycle, G/Chris C?

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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2014, 10:24:20 PM »
& whats the weight difference?

do the hollow pins have any benefit besides weight?

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Re: odyssey keychain
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2014, 06:49:12 AM »
Odyssey key chain is out now. Apparently.
So this is ment to come with an chain tool adaptor for initially breaking it to size is that right?

For the hollow pin yes. Not needed on the solid version.

The real question is...  Will if fit my Model C?????

Yes unless you have a crazy gear like 33/10 or something.

It would be interesting to see what tool is needed to break this chain.

If the slot or hole that you push the pin out into is over 5mm then you are fine.

We will be doing a specific tool which will be very affordable though.

However, you can also break the hollow pin version using just the supplied adaptor and a bench vice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohcbhDwkt0s
or even an old brake nut and a hammer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CjDNgCXLm0

Please excuse the amateur nature of these videos they were just for internal use really but I CBA to make new ones.

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Re: odyssey keychain
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2014, 06:54:45 AM »
Looked them up on empire's website.

http://www.empirebmx.com/odyssey-keychain-chain
http://www.empirebmx.com/odyssey-keychain-chain-hollow

I'm sure they'll be sick, but what do think about those prices?

The price is as low as we can make it. Please bear in mind that this chain has been in development for 8 years and we have spent many many tens of thousands of dollars on tooling.

It is also worth mentioning that if you have a bench vice and an old brake nut then you will never need a chain tool (see above videos) and even a cheap chain tool added to the cost of a normal chain is a similar price and cheap chain tools do tend to get broken and good chain tools are pretty expensive. So in my opinion makes more sense to spend the money on a better chain.

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Re: odyssey keychain
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2014, 07:03:23 AM »
& whats the weight difference?

do the hollow pins have any benefit besides weight?

Hollow version is 300g, solid is 335g I think. However the hollow pin is also a little bit harder to push the pins out of because the hole through the middle makes it easier to rivet the ends over extra hard. I would highly recommend the hollow pin version as it is lighter AND even stronger, AND using the above tricks you don't need a chainbreaker.

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« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2014, 07:14:44 AM »
Love your voice in those videos, G. I'll probably "whack my mole" to them later, ifyouknowwhatI'msayin....

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« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2014, 08:00:01 AM »
Haha "oh bobbins it's still not broken"

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Re: odyssey keychain
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2014, 08:04:53 AM »
or even an old brake nut and a hammer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CjDNgCXLm0

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This was hilarious. "OK, one more hit and it should be through........Bollocks" and the finishing "there you go it can be done, bye"

I'm not as excited as other people about the chain as I don't grind anymore and haven't snapped a chain without grinding on it before, but seeing it then it looks awesome.

I'm really tempted for one for my SS as I put a lot of torque through it on climbs, but I imagine it wouldn't be long enough and I'd need two?
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Re: odyssey keychain
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2014, 09:35:27 AM »

I'm really tempted for one for my SS as I put a lot of torque through it on climbs, but I imagine it wouldn't be long enough and I'd need two?

I was thinking this too.

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Re: odyssey keychain
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2014, 10:03:46 AM »
I am pushing for us to do a longer one for SS and fixed, but given how long it has taken to get this out it may take a while...

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