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« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2009, 06:14:46 PM »
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makes the 11 gauge look like a cap pistol.


No such thing. And if there was, it would be bigger than a 12 gauge.
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« Reply #46 on: January 03, 2009, 06:22:34 PM »
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They make special ammunition for that.


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« Reply #47 on: January 03, 2009, 06:30:12 PM »
consider CZ 75/85B, CZ 75 and variants are in service with "more Governments, Militaries, Police and Security agencies than any other pistol in the world"
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« Reply #48 on: January 03, 2009, 06:53:05 PM »
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No such thing. And if there was, it would be bigger than a 12 gauge.



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« Reply #49 on: January 03, 2009, 07:05:07 PM »
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.38 special. i'm sure some of the gun nuts on here will tell you to get something crazy but the 38 has good stopping power, is small, simple and the stainless requires less maintenance.

But for a first gun period, shotgun, handsdown. Mossberg 12ga or similar. You can get the kits that come with the slug barrel, which is shorter and therefore better for home defense (you can use it with buckshot no problem).
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« Reply #50 on: January 03, 2009, 07:11:03 PM »
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makes the 11 gauge look like a cap pistol.


You dont seem to understand the concept of gauges.

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« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2009, 07:21:45 PM »
For self defense I recommend a 12 gauge SBS or a handgun in either 9mm, .40, or .45.

I just bought a .40 XDM and its a great gun.  I have about 300 rounds through it with no failures and a friend has about 600 rounds through an original XD with the same results.

I keep Federal HST rounds loaded in the handgun.  Great combo of expansion and penetration.  If you go the shotgun route you should shoot buckshot.

Whatever you do, go out and practice with your weapon until shooting becomes second nature.

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« Reply #52 on: January 03, 2009, 07:22:09 PM »
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You dont seem to understand the concept of gauges.

its just like for my piercing....  right???

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For self defense I recommend a 12 gauge SBS or a handgun in either 9mm, .40, or .45.
.40 and .45 would be too big for simple self defense, where a .38 or even a .22 could do enough damage to get the message across.  I'm pretty sure the guy doesn't wanna kill a guy

Odd little note:
.22 ammo is preferred for assassinations because it doesn't have enough power to exit a head wound, but reflect and bounce around inside the skull, mushin the brains.  This is what I get for working with a soldier
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« Reply #53 on: January 03, 2009, 07:30:05 PM »
Sorry, those are the most popular rounds for self-defense.

Shooting anything besides rats or squirrels with a .22 is silly.  The .38 isn't a bad round though.

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« Reply #54 on: January 03, 2009, 07:32:59 PM »
Personally, I would go for a gun that you could use for self defense and is fun to use for recreation, like going to the range or taking it out in the woods.  A snub .38 would be great to keep in the bedside drawer or hidden in a jacket, but it would get old pretty fast using it for anything besides just screwing around at close range.

I have a .357 Magnum, and it is a blast to shoot.  While I've never considered it a self-defense weapon, they have moderate power, accuracy, and handling and are supposed to be a pretty good "combat" weapon.

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« Reply #55 on: January 03, 2009, 07:34:24 PM »
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Odd little note:
.22 ammo is preferred for assassinations because it doesn't have enough power to exit a head wound, but reflect and bounce around inside the skull, mushin the brains.  This is what I get for working with a soldier


Read the same thing in a Tom Clancy novel ages ago.

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« Reply #56 on: January 03, 2009, 07:34:53 PM »
if you have it locked up what good is it?
keep it in your bed side table.

as for size, a 9mm or 38 would be good.

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« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2009, 07:35:59 PM »
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Sorry, those are the most popular rounds for self-defense.

Shooting anything besides rats or squirrels with a .22 is silly.  The .38 isn't a bad round though.


Actually, a well-placed .22 round can do a TON of internal damage. Lots of city medics/emts are well aware of this.

But, I know what you're saying, and that's why I keep the .40 within reach at home, and the .45 not much farther away.

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« Reply #58 on: January 03, 2009, 07:36:35 PM »
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I just bought a .40 XDM and its a great gun.

Jealous. I used to have an XD45 and the new XDMs look even better. So sick. I have a 9mm M&P I bought before they had the XDMs, but now I wish I had waited and bought an XDM.

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.40 and .45 would be too big for simple self defense
no, but if you are a wimp/woman/have small hands/don't practice a lot, a .45 might have a lot of recoil.

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I'm pretty sure the guy doesn't wanna kill a guy
You generally don't shoot at people you don't want to kill.
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« Reply #59 on: January 03, 2009, 07:39:51 PM »
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Actually, a well-placed .22 round can do a TON of internal damage. Lots of city medics/emts are well aware of this.

But, I know what you're saying, and that's why I keep the .40 within reach at home, and the .45 not much farther away.

Of course a .22 can do damage.  Everyone's heard how they just bounce around inside someone and tear them up.

I'd never consider my .22 a self defense weapon though.  Like you, if I need something I'm going to grab my .40.  If I need something more I have an m1a.
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