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The Lounge / Post Your Guns
« on: March 24, 2009, 08:37:29 PM »
Quote from: Small Member;2922075
And do you feel that this article supports your stance on guns and gun laws?


No.  It supports the notion that cockholsters like you easily get your panties in a twist.  You could have at least found a more recent news story.

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The Lounge / Post Your Guns
« on: March 24, 2009, 07:57:04 PM »
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking-news/story/965735.html

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1 dead, one injured in Miami Burger King shooting

One man was killed and another seriously wounded in a shootout inside a Miami Burger King on Tuesday, officials said.

Police said a man wearing a ski mask walked into the store at Biscayne Boulevard and 54th Street and demanded money from a clerk.

A customer, who has a concealed weapons permit, pulled a gun, said Officer Jeff Giordano, a Miami police spokesman.

The customer and robber exchanged fire.

The robber was shot dead at the scene.

The customer, who had several gunshot wounds, was taken to Ryder Trauma Center in serious but stable condition, said Lt. Ignatius Carroll, a Miami Fire Rescue spokesman.

At about 4 p.m., officials got several 911 calls reporting people shot inside the Burger King.

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The Lounge / Post Your Guns
« on: March 20, 2009, 10:31:20 PM »
Yeah, I stocked up a while back but I also like to get out and shoot the stuff.  I still have something like 800 rounds of 7.62 but I always have my eyes open looking for a deal.

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The Lounge / Post Your Guns
« on: March 20, 2009, 10:06:07 PM »
I'm hitting up the gun show tomorrow morning.  I hope to score a stockpile of .40 and/or 7.62 NATO.  Wish me luck.

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The Lounge / Post Your Guns
« on: March 20, 2009, 06:12:53 PM »
There's a new HOLLOW POINT AMMO RECALL.

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The Lounge / Post Your Guns
« on: March 18, 2009, 05:44:07 PM »
If you look I posted the stats in response to pimpa$aurus' statement.  All I said regarding you was that it was from a source you provided.

Also, I posted the page which only included violent crimes against a person.  I don't post "how dangerous the usa is regarding shootings".  I think all violent crimes against another are of concern, not just gun related incidents.

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The Lounge / Post Your Guns
« on: March 18, 2009, 05:24:07 PM »
It's from a Home Office link you previously posted.

Let's just say I believe the police report statistics more than some sampled crime survey.

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The Lounge / Post Your Guns
« on: March 18, 2009, 01:33:49 PM »
Quote from: pimpa$aurus;2913968
Yup, seems like you've forgotten the explanation though.


No, I didn't forget.  I just don't buy it.

I also don't put much into a crime SURVEY.

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The Lounge / Post Your Guns
« on: March 18, 2009, 03:26:56 AM »
Quote from: pimpa$aurus;2913953
Crime rate over here hasn't gone up, lets not get into that again. Its been done to death and proved wrong.


Remember this source paulie provided?


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The Lounge / Post Your Guns
« on: March 18, 2009, 12:52:49 AM »
I always play THIS while on my way to the shooting range or cleaning my guns.

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The Lounge / Post Your Guns
« on: March 16, 2009, 05:03:17 PM »
Quote from: bobinverted;2912137
Anyone else notice that gun nuts tend to be totally insecure pussies?


Hey, look!  I have a little puppy on my heels.

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The Lounge / Post Your Guns
« on: March 16, 2009, 02:20:58 PM »
Nice AR15.  I'm looking to add one to my collection as soon as I can.  I have a friend who's been waiting on an upper to ship for 16 weeks now.

Also, went shooting last weekend and had a "blast".

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The Lounge / Post Your Guns
« on: March 12, 2009, 05:10:39 PM »
Small Member, I understand what you are saying but you seem to forget the purpose of the 2nd Amendment.  It is there to fight against a tyrannical government.  It's no surprise it is mainly the Dems who want to amend it.  They want to change the government toward a radically different model than what it was founded upon and many people won't stand for it.

The second has stood strong for years and sadly, many want to strip it away due to others reasons such as the failure to uphold a civil society and strictly enforce current laws.  Like mentioned before, all part of the "blame someone/something else/depend on the government" society some want to grow.

"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson

I never understand how so many can criticize the government on one topic and then go on to believe they always have our best interests in mind.  The federal government needs to shrink and state governments need more say in what their people can or cannot do.  California has strict gun control, people can move there if they don't agree with the majority in the state where they currently live.


Quote from: Small Member;2907708
Would you be for or against a law that requires all new firearms for civilian issue to be usable only by its registered owner through any type of control  system (ex: fingerprint locks, dna locks, etc.) should said system become available?

I'll even concede to my hypothetical question that the system is not connected to any network so that the government couldn't 'shut it down' if they had to.

I would be against it.  Again, we need to straighten out the current mess before we keep moving forward in the wrong direction.  It always makes me sick to see murderers and rapists get off with easy sentences and to then watch some question why crime is so high.

Our crime problem runs way deeper than the people's right to bear arms.

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The Lounge / Post Your Guns
« on: March 12, 2009, 03:20:58 PM »
Quote from: couch;2907658
I fail to see the problem with legally owning a gun. With the proper background check and the ten day waiting period it is very unlikely some nutjob is going to go thru the process of doing all that just to start trouble. Of course it is possible, but with the amount of registered gun owners.... its a very very small percentage of people with bad intent.

I'm surprised they haven't banned automobile use yet. I mean, people run from the cops in them right? People hit people while driving, people drive drunk, the list goes on and on and on. A gun is a tool, just like a hammer, just like a screwdriver, just like a kitchen knife. If it falls into the wrong hands shit will hit the fan. When used properly, whether it be for home defense, self defense, hunting, target shooting, sport, whatever it is fine. I don't care about "rights" or the constitution. Its more about reason and responsibility. If you're a hack, you shouldn't have a gun. If you're a solid dude with any legit reason to own one and you pass the state requirements, whats the problem?

Because we are moving towards a protectionist society.  It is a vicious cycle that feeds on itself.  Just thirty years ago our parents could go hunting in the morning and drive straight to school with their rifle in the back window of their truck (I wonder if school shootings have increased or decreased since the prohibition of guns on campus?).  Today, we blame everything else but the individual who breaks the law and can't function in society.

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The Lounge / Post Your Guns
« on: March 12, 2009, 03:17:03 PM »
Quote from: Small Member;2907603
Keep trying at what?

You preach all the time how owning a gun is your 'right' because it's in the constitution.  You have other reasons why you want a gun, and that's fine, but you always come down to the fact that it's your 'right'.

Ummmm, it is my right.  The reason it is number two is to insure the protection of the other rights you love so much.  I understand YOU don't think it should be a right but it has stood for over 200 years which to me is bolder than any statement you can make.  My other reasons I cite for owning a firearm are just side benefits.

Quote from: Small Member;2907603
You argue that you are constitutionally entitled to own a specific item. In this case it is a firearm.

In their case, it was a human being.

Ownership of an inanimate object and ownership of a human being is two entirely different things.  Keep trying.


Quote from: Small Member;2907603
I've always been against the second amendment as it is grossly misinterpreted today.

I've never had a problem with owning guns. I've had a problem with the idea that owning guns is a right of equal stature as the right to religion, freedom of speech, and all the other very important rights that protect a persons right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Can you explain how the second amendment is "grossly misinterpreted today"?

And sadly, the second isn't "a right of equal stature".  One must go through a background check in order to purchase a firearm.  One must follow hundreds of laws specifically addressing where, when, and how he can carry a firearm.  Maybe we should require background checks in order to excercise one's freedom of speech and freedom of religion as well.

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