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The Bike Shop / Re: Keychain help

« on: November 13, 2014, 08:39:57 PM »

Still, be wary of rust though.

Parts can still fail when allowed to rust.

Remember that forks cranks frames can rust from the inside out as well

Right on bro, that makes good sense. Thanks!

Thought i'd mention, seeing as you said you ride shows. Parts generally get a good beating in those settings, hence being careful.

I always thought about teflon spraying my frames before assembling, but never did so. Never actually had something break that suggested i'd do so, but it's not a bad idea if you're afraid water/moisture might build up.

Sucks to pay 10 bucks for a new link.
Exactly the sort of stuff that keeps me from buying 1st gen products.

User errors are something companies have to defend themselves with by using good manuals.
Think of shadow and their 1st gen halflink chain direction mystery.

IF it's product failure, Odyssey is supposed to have good warranty, and i reckon that in the first phase of a product hitting the market, they might be prepared to listen and might offer you something that may have been improved- if you're lucky.

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The Bike Shop / Re: Keychain help

« on: November 08, 2014, 09:55:05 PM »

Still, be wary of rust though.

Parts can still fail when allowed to rust.

Remember that forks cranks frames can rust from the inside out as well

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The Bike Shop / Re: Keychain help

« on: November 07, 2014, 12:52:26 PM »

Typically any half link chain will come up as needing replacement if you check it with this tool after just a few weeks of riding, that's how bad it is.


G.

I just got the chain yesterday so haven't rode it yet just rode it out front of my house for a min or to and makes this crazy noise. When I got my shadow chain in May did not make any noise and the speoket and driver where older just don't understand why it is doing that.

There's your answer.

Give a Shadow chain half a summer to wear in and it'll eat your sprocket.
Back when i was pretty fanatic, i had a setup with a wayy overbuilt KHE chain and a new sprocket. Didn't stretch.

Sprockets that have had strechy chains can be easily spotted; compare them to a new sprocket, and look at the angle and the outer profile of the teeth and the parts inbetween. They will likely have become pretty wide.

I have never trusted halflink chains after my first one kept breaking at the plate bend.

Like G so magnificently said, halflink chains stretch in two ways. The plates stretch like a bitch, and when they're done, the pins start coming loose (which i've seen happen more than i think is funny).
I nearly wanted to post G's statement on FB, just for the amount of fools that keep buying these shit products.

Go e-mail Shadow instead.

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The Bike Shop / Re: Experiance Rawing Sunday/Odyssey Parts?

« on: October 30, 2014, 08:29:16 PM »

I want to raw it. I might polish it after I raw it depending on how dark it is. 

If it won't come off with stripper, and I have to use sandpaper,  then I'll probably polish it up a bit.

Good luck. I had a pretty nice result after polishing. Was quite stoked with it but i'd recommend a powdercoat clearcoat instead of spraypaint. Looks shit quite fast.
And i think i do pretty awesome job spraying so i guess it's just the way spray paint protects the raw metal.

The pictures get resized by fb so zoom em out for a bit sharper view.

sprayed
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sprayed
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/64783_572979116059696_623955058_n.jpg?oh=5f7d90e19c7e070c30c2bf62dace4bc8&oe=54DFE57E&__gda__=1424648526_eb1eb26280322ed58bd26a33e96b833b
not yet sprayed (a bit more luminous/chrome-ish)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/603786_572058296151778_1706777171_n.jpg?oh=335043dabde38541b71655efdf745a28&oe=54F325D6&__gda__=1424720213_7edf23aaa4920f7b9b51654b4c33004a

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The Lounge / Re: Shred! Extreme mountain biking (awesome game/app)

« on: October 30, 2014, 08:12:58 PM »

still can't be beat

What game is that?

(i'm all for developing new games, but..)
if you have a PS2, Tony Hawks American Wasteland lets you ride bmx the oldskool way. Manuals, Pedal-5 nosewheelies, whiplashes, tiretap decades, barspins, crankflips, supermans, x-ups, tailwhips, and tables.
Feebles, smiths, icepicks, toothpicks, all possible.

Paid 4 euros for the game, and pwned a ps2 from my ex. Best deal ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R_VB0vaWJk

Still rock that shit any rainy day!

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The Bike Shop / Re: The "what the hell is Odyssey / Gspprt cooking up" thread.

« on: October 29, 2014, 08:56:59 PM »

i like the socket drive but i just hope it won't go clicking back and forth after time. i was always discontent with sprocket bolts for that reason. i like the idea of having the torque of the sprocket directly on the crankarm. That's mainly what i thought spline drive would give problems with; fucking up axles and stuff, but it obv hasn't as far as i know.

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The Bike Shop / Re: The "what the hell is Odyssey / Gspprt cooking up" thread.

« on: October 21, 2014, 08:41:57 PM »

hahah ok, thanks Dude!

Sorry Tom, i love me a discussion!

This should cheer you right up

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The Bike Shop / Re: The "what the hell is Odyssey / Gspprt cooking up" thread.

« on: October 21, 2014, 08:32:06 PM »

Hope they are paying some royalties to Ody for that shit. Probably not.

Why would they? If anything it should be the other way round.

LOL WUT so according to you:

Odyssey should pay BSD, because BSD decides they were the company to go and fabricate (and maybe patent?) a shitty Antigram guard that is NOT up to Odyssey standard?

IF there's a patent on their anti guard, that would mean Odyssey might even have to pay to produce a product, to fit on a product they actually thought of themselves?

Let alone having to compete with guards of other companies for théir own hubs cutting hubguard revenues effectively in half.
Odyssey might as well start making shit for BSD products.

Also there might be kids screaming blah antigram this blah after possibly having a shit designed product crap out their well designed product.
Which would hurt Odyssey's rep.

I fail to see how Odyssey would owe a dime to BSD.

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The Bike Shop / Re: finally new powerbites.

« on: October 17, 2014, 05:46:21 PM »

This is funny because...

its pretty pointless making a crankset that was designed as a 3pc into a 2pc. for years after i started the only 2pc crank out was some dodgy sounding khe one, they were a joke. its only cos of wombolts (which were designed to be 2pc from the start) that they became viable again.

I have to agree.[/b][/color]

the main downside is for sprocket removal/replacement, if you run your sprocket on the side of the cranks with the fixed arm, you have to take the whole thing out to replace it.
this also goes for adjusting crankarm/bb spacing etc. might not be an issue for many people but its a definite inferiority of 2pc cranks compared to 3pc.

I have to agree.

theres also the point that if you have an issue with a 3pc crank arm, its possible to fit a replacement easily. if you stuff up the fixed arm on a 2pc you pretty much might as well buy a whole new set of cranks

plus now it seems like the majority of companys are moving to splined sprockets in a 22mm or 24mm interface, so in fact primo are not really tailoring their range to what the consumers want.

True.

what i hate most is the aesthetics. over the last few years primo has taken some of its most trusted and revered classic parts and redesigned them making a mockery of them.
the remix with the piddley piss weak bearings in it, and now this. Primo were THE shit back 10-15 years back (before odyssey really stepped up their game), and now they come out with a load of nasty looking inferior remakes of their old parts, and rasta complete wheels. apparently the new V monster is decent, though it might as well not be a vmonster as they ditched the classic tread design

i wonder how long primo will last, seems like tips plus is gonna make way more money off stranger and cult because those are the sort of brands kids want to buy, irrespective of how good their products actually are. engineering stands for nothing in bmx because of the adolescent consumerbase who wants stuff with weed references and half assed illuminate imagery

I have to agree. BUT it's not just because of Cult Stranger or other brands. Innovating would have been the way to go and indeed, they didn't.

Also i would like to add that i thought Primo is pretty big.
I THINK have seen belts for idk what kind of motors, with the Pr1mo logo, super thin 20" racing comets and other racing tires... Seems like they are in a lot more than 'Just' bmx.

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The Lounge / Re: BG's Current Injuries

« on: October 17, 2014, 05:32:34 PM »

apart from having problems with most major joints in my body, i now have a freak bruise on my outer lower shin that really makes my leg all limpy.

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The Bike Shop / Re: Dennis Enarson Cranks

« on: October 14, 2014, 05:40:20 PM »

i don't see why people don't just tap the spindle/flush bolts with a rubber mallet or a hammer.
That's what i do with my Kinks, works great. Essentially just a crank puller for cavemen.

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The Bike Shop / Re: finally new powerbites.

« on: October 14, 2014, 05:36:30 PM »

The inserts look different my guess is theyre riveted in?

Looks like it. Also looks like it's slightly beefier.

Actually feeling quite good about these, can't wait to see them IRL.

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The Bike Shop / Re: finally new powerbites.

« on: October 14, 2014, 07:40:43 AM »

I don't think anyone bought them to tell you how it went. Ask seth kimbrough

Lol hahah. He's still our reli-rock hero though!

i nearly threw up when i saw these. 2 piece powerbites? arreeeeeuuuurrrrrghhhhhhhh fuck you primo
......
these new ones are disgusting though, another colossal primo fail

I don't really see where you're coming from. But i respect your point of view nonetheless.

It's just, they look 99,9% like the old powerbites, which imho weren't badly designed or shaped. You just need to like alloy cranks.
So to me,  saying those look disgusting is saying any power/hollowbite looks disgusting.

That's opinion. But what is so fail about it?
I don't see how there's anything wrong with 2-piece since everybody and their dog are producing 2 piece cranks.

The 2 piece design allows for these nice big hollow axles, and without these axles your cranks are nót going to sell these days.
Basically it's reduced in weight, while maintaining strength, plus they've updated the crankarm connecting interface to something that is going to outperform the previous design.

Doesn't sound bad to me. 

Your maintenance rules are right on, if you have 'old school' power/hollowbites; not a bad thing to say about it.
But the industry moved on to bigger and better things, Primo adjusted their design to the specs of todays consumers, and kept it looking like the same stuff.

If you ask me, apart from knowing how the inserts perfom, i'd say Primo did a good job on 'keeping up' 3 years late.
JUST like with their first female cassette.

That's a whole other story though, not smart but regardless, i still like to think Primo is a good company heh heh.

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The Bike Shop / Re: finally new powerbites.

« on: October 13, 2014, 06:59:19 PM »

I think this design beats the older design.

Square axle was prone to (yes, i've seen it happen) rounding off and allowing for play.
Axle bolts got stuck in crankarm when tightening our crankarm.
Therefore cranks would be prone to wobble if not mounted correctly.
Circular axle with crude splines will likely perform better than square and allows for hollow 22/24/25mm axle. Yayy

Moreover, i can't get used to my swaying tubular cranks after having ridden my first 2nd hand powerbite set for 8 years.
Feels like i'm fuckfooted now.

I saw the new Eclat alloy cranks and just hated the fact that they have a offset/sway just like tubular.
Loved my powerbites man.

The insert design is another issue. I don't know how much companies it takes to get a decent alloy crank design out there but it seems like since the first 'inserted' powerbites, things only went downhill with user experiences.

Really hoping this will not be another year of ignored design flaws for Primo.
Good company imho but if you ignore problems for that long.. that's just dumb.

EDIT: Does anybody know how the other brands (Shadow, any more?) did with their insert designs the last couple years? From what i've heard...

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The Bike Shop / Re: Dennis Enarson Cranks

« on: October 11, 2014, 06:24:02 PM »

Eclat aeon with a wedge.

Edit: beat me to it. Had the pagr left open haha.

np, team work bruh!

i post the criticism, you post the pics!