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The Lounge / Re: New Random Thoughts Thread
« on: May 27, 2015, 09:13:36 AM »
To play the devils advocate regarding your idea of 'strata thought', if you start from the position of the Sophalist, who believes only his mind exists, these things which cannot be conjured up by your own mind must point to another being rather than disproving it.


You've either just rephrased my point, or  I don't understand what you're getting at here. The pointing to another being is the collapse of the solipsistic position. I'm no expert on philosophy, but I wouldn't consider Descartes to be working within the same frame as the solipsist, even if there are parallels in some of their conclusions. Descartes was working on the basis that there is a truth to an external reality, and how exactly one would go about proving it. The solipsist jumps on that train of thought and slams the brakes on.

Yes, your right. It has been a while since I studied philosophy, confused between solipsism and Descarts.

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The Lounge / Re: New Random Thoughts Thread
« on: May 27, 2015, 06:30:25 AM »
often though about this , but what if no one else really exists what if im the only person who is actually real and everything else is some kind of illusion my mind has made up?

could be true  :o


Then really it doesn't matter either way if the difference is imperceptible. I appreciate that this wouldn't help you, but I know your belief about your own mind is untrue, even if you don't. I know my mind exists, so I can conclude that your mind can't be the only thing in existence.


The endurance of solipsism is a perfect example of how people can get stuck on the outcome of a logical argument, even when the conclusion is relatively absurd. I feel quite happy to disregard the idea on the simple basis that there are many things in the world that I don't understand at all. If the only thing I can verify the existence of is my own thoughts, then I struggle to see how I could think up things that no amount of those same thoughts can actually comprehend. The only way for that to be possible would be if there was a duality of mind/another strata of thought. Using solipsistic reasoning, there's equally no reason to believe in the other strata of thought, as there's no way to comprehensively verify it. It's always struck me as quite self-defeating.


I do see what your saying, but it has always struck me when reading Descarts meditations is that he does not specifically care about the outcome, it is more of a line of thinking, in his first mediation he doubts everything around him, including himself, and then finally coming to the conclusion that we must exist, because of these very thoughts. I think the outcome of this thinking is neither here nor there for him, rather just the logical conclusion of his previous work. Regarding Soplipsim in general, I have always liked Bertrand Russel's view in that why would the Soliphsist every try to convince anyone else of their argument, since it does not matter if you are the only person to exist. It has always seemed to me as a moot point in philosophy with people who argue for it being answered with a 'so what?' at the logical conclusion of their argument.

To play the devils advocate regarding your idea of 'strata thought', if you start from the position of the Sophalist, who believes only his mind exists, these things which cannot be conjured up by your own mind must point to another being rather than disproving it.

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The Lounge / Re: New Random Thoughts Thread
« on: May 26, 2015, 02:42:33 PM »
often though about this , but what if no one else really exists what if im the only person who is actually real and everything else is some kind of illusion my mind has made up?

could be true  :o

Fucking existentialist right there, but your about 400 years late. Descartes would be proud though, its where 'I think therefore I am' comes from.

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The Lounge / Re: Ninth Street Trails under water again
« on: May 26, 2015, 12:16:24 PM »
Its also seems bad down at Graveyard Trails; https://instagram.com/p/3Fbo--yVpZ/?taken-by=tylertruemanbmx

Mad how people in PA are having the opposite problem of no water whatsoever

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The Lounge / Re: Ninth Street Trails under water again
« on: May 26, 2015, 05:55:34 AM »
Fucking hell. I'm sure they will be rebuilt like last time, but that pretty shit for them

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The Bike Shop / Re: Pedal design devolving?
« on: May 25, 2015, 01:41:19 PM »
There are ones with metal grind plates, for example: http://www.gussetbikes.com/products-bmx-information.php?id=PDGUFT9K

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The Lounge / Re: Steven Hamilton
« on: May 25, 2015, 01:36:22 PM »
https://vimeo.com/127884274

Some trails in it too

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The Lounge / Re: Anyone heard from couch/Zodiac?
« on: May 23, 2015, 08:53:27 AM »
He put up on his instagram that he was getting going with the BMX stuff since people had been waiting for a while. Its strange he hasn't sent the dust cover though, mine came very quickly.

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Sell and Swap / Re: Wtb t1 barcodes
« on: May 14, 2015, 03:40:36 AM »

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Sell and Swap / Re: Wtb t1 barcodes
« on: May 13, 2015, 11:43:54 AM »
Email sent

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The Lounge / Re: General election
« on: May 12, 2015, 08:03:30 AM »
The NHS is one the best and most cost effective healthcare systems in the world. Fuck anyone who wants to "restructure" it.

The frontline of it is no doubt, but the management side of it certainly isnt, a mess of talentless executives on 6 figure salaries, squandering their budgets due to poor planning/decisions, while waiting for their lottery win pensions to mature.

Totally agree.

On another note, Farage has now come back, I thought we got rid of that fucker

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The Lounge / Re: Riders you pay attention to this day age
« on: May 11, 2015, 04:22:54 AM »
Mark Potoczny and Ted Van Orman. Dudes shred at trails and bowls

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Riding Photos / Re: Wild Trail setups
« on: May 09, 2015, 04:43:43 AM »
Saw Greenlakes Jam video on CYDI, looks like such a fun set up you got going on down there

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The Lounge / Re: General election
« on: May 08, 2015, 11:45:09 AM »
No; the outlook is not that grim. People here are die hard labour supporters and that's why they are so fucked off. No one was predicting such a big win for the conservatives it just shows that the majority of people do trust the conservatives and want to keep them in government. So much so that they have improved on last year and are now running a majority.

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The Lounge / Re: General election
« on: May 08, 2015, 04:58:17 AM »
Goodbye Farage, will be a different landscape without him, cant really believe UKIP got so much of the vote, but only a single seat

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