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The Lounge / Re: New Random Thoughts Thread
« on: July 09, 2015, 04:40:27 PM »
who ever made kids aspire to throw their bikes like the pros deserves a pay rise, saw 3 kids break stuff on their bike today by throwing them around

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The Lounge / Re: Gay Marriage
« on: July 07, 2015, 09:28:17 AM »
Perhaps they should go back to using the Hebrew word, and it would not surprise me if they did. I don't know if people would not hold it in such high regard as marriage, it comes down to societies view on the whole thing. People who support it would hold it in high regard, and those who don't would not. I think in time when it had been integrated it would be held in high regard.

In the same vein you could say that you could say that the views of the religious people are being outweighed by the homosexuals and that "isn't right"? I just think it would silence allot of people if they had a referendum such as in Ireland, it would truly silence the critics, and would be a better way than simply the government intervening in religion which was my problem with it in the first place. I don't care if two people of the same sex can get married or not, I just think the process which was taken seemed suspect.

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The Lounge / Re: Gay Marriage
« on: July 07, 2015, 07:47:50 AM »
Because of equality, fuck face. It's like saying "hey guys, you can come to our schools, and businesses and even use our public transit! Buuuuuuuut, you'll need to use different bathrooms and water fountains and also be sat in a different area from the straight people".

No, its nothing like that. Its like saying; we recognise the history of marriage that it has always been between two people of opposite sexes. Sooooo instead of antagonise a large amount of the population we will give you exactly the same thing, but call it a union instead of a marriage because of the history etc. of that word. If its just the name then why does it matter so much to people?

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The Lounge / Re: Gay Marriage
« on: July 07, 2015, 06:44:12 AM »
All I have been saying is an easier way of doing this would be awarding exactly the same rights etc to homosexual couples if they were in a civil partnership. I don't see why labelling it with 'marriage' is such a big deal for people when it just creates tension with all the religious folk. I am only playing devils advocate here, i don't see why marriage should still be sacred.

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The Lounge / Re: Post Internet Funnies
« on: July 05, 2015, 04:16:50 AM »
Cool rather than funny. Cycling down a bob-sled course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2lVVvaFmko

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The Lounge / Re: Gay Marriage
« on: July 03, 2015, 05:14:28 PM »
I agree with this, but have been called homophobic so many times that I have stopped saying it. I just have a problem in having the government involved in church is a slippery slope to start on. Saying this I don't disagree with gay marriage per se, just that the government shouldn't interfere with the church/what ever religious institution. But I know how you guys feel about religion sooo...

The government absolutely should not be involved in religion. That is why this ruling was so good.

If two people want to get married, they should be able to. It is a union with many different aspects that change your rights, tax brackets, etc. Who is anyone to say that two people can't enter into this agreement because of their plumbing? Not allowing two people to get married because of what the bible says is allowing religion into law. By saying anyone can get married, that is taking religion out of it.

Gay people are not going to walk into a super-religious church and demand the church marry them. The church would be well within their rights to refuse. The pastor that married my wife and I said that she would refuse to marry couples she thought "wouldn't work." So anti-gay churches need not be involved. Gays can go to the city clerk, or they get a more open minister, or they get someone licensed to perform marriages to marry them. You can get a license to marry people through an online course. . . .

The fact is, this is not the government stepping into a church. This is the government saying that marriage is a union between two people. They are not re-writing the bible.

This ruling does not affect churches in any way, except for perhaps pissing them off that their definition of marriage can no longer be forced on other people.

It comes down to semantics, some people see 'marriage' as having innately religious connotations. Perhaps one of the easier ways of doing it would to simply make civil-partnerships and marriages have the same legal equal footing. Some people say marriage is religious, some say it is legal. Let religion decide what they want to do.

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The Lounge / Re: Back on track
« on: July 03, 2015, 12:53:33 PM »
Really amazing to watch, could spawn a whole new type of biking.

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The Lounge / Re: Gay Marriage
« on: July 03, 2015, 12:48:41 PM »
Let me start off by saying I don't have a problem with gay marriage. I think the issue for most religious people is that they think it is not the governments job to redefine what they see as a status that originated with religion and Adam and Eve. Separation of church and state thing. I think it's less about rights and more about redefining what they see as a religious term. I mean shit, you need an minister who is ordained through a religious institution to marry a couple. I think what it really comes down to is the benefits that the government gives to married couples. If you gave gay people the same benefits of married couples but called it something different than marriage I don't think religious people would give a shit nearly as much. For most religious people its not about pushing their religious beliefs on others or equality as it is about preserving a biblical definition. I feel like most people who are for gay marriage don't see this side of the debate and the amount of religious bashing and in tolerance of peoples beliefs i've been seeing is ridiculous. Its all about tolerance.

What makes marriage's definition bound to a biblical thing though? You can't own a word. It may have started with a different meaning but you can't enforce a meaning when the world around you is changing it.

Take idiot. It was once a scientific term for people with exceptional mental handicaps. People throw that word around like it's nothing anymore, cause quite frankly it is nothing.

The N-word is another one. The black community has changed the perception of the meaning of the word drastically. It's still a hot word to say but it's not a strict racial epithet it used to be.

To people who see marriage as a man and woman. It'll always be that way. To people who see it differently. They'll always see it their way. The government's job is to side with the majority of people and in this case no one is truly discriminated. It's not like straight marriage is now outlawed. Hell, there is a Japanese dude who married an online character from a video game, to him marriage is that too. No one may recognize it as real but that ain't gonna change his views.

This is why I said I don't have a problem with it. I already understand that. Just pointing out the religious side that people don't seem to get.

I agree with this, but have been called homophobic so many times that I have stopped saying it. I just have a problem in having the government involved in church is a slippery slope to start on. Saying this I don't disagree with gay marriage per se, just that the government shouldn't interfere with the church/what ever religious institution. But I know how you guys feel about religion sooo...

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The Lounge / Re: New Random Thoughts Thread
« on: July 01, 2015, 03:07:20 AM »
Just got back from Barcelona. England is fucking hot as well

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The Lounge / Re: Fan Theory (films)
« on: July 01, 2015, 02:53:21 AM »
Another in LotR is that Gandalf had always planned to fly them instead of walking.

That would just make Gandalf a fucking cunt.
The theory basic goes like this
Gandalf secretly planned on taking the fellowship to where the eagles live and having the eagles fly them to Mordor. The eagles lived on the other side of the Misty Mountains but all the routes for crossing them were too dangerous and difficult, and Gandalf (along with his secret plan) ends up falling down a chasm in a battle with the Balrog. Just before falling with the Balrog he tries to surreptitiously tell them the secret plan (when he says 'fly you fools) but was too surreptitious and they didn't understand. When he came back as Gandalf the White he had forgotten many things, including the plan to meet the eagles.

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The Lounge / Re: Fan Theory (films)
« on: June 30, 2015, 04:43:14 PM »
I have always liked the idea that popeye's spinach was in fact a representation of beer, he starts fights, appears to get stronger etc. and he was a sailor (notorious for drinking), also it first aired at the start of the prohibition in America.

Regarding the James Bond codename thing, I taught it seemed a bit far when you saw his mum and dads name on their gravestones. But I have heard some arguments that agents are just sent there to be trained when they are younger and there are many "James'", I think its a little far fetched, but each to their own.

another one which springs to mind is the one with Galadriel in LotR where she gives Gimli three hairs, it references an elf in the samilarion who asked for the same thing and she denied him, this is why Gimili is such good friends with elves. Another in LotR is that Gandalf had always planned to fly them instead of walking.

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The Lounge / Re: Gay Marriage
« on: June 29, 2015, 06:51:51 PM »
Was in Barcelona for all the gay pride stuff. City is very homosexual friendly, so naturally there was all sorts of leather attire down Las Ramblas

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Riding Videos / Re: Phone clips
« on: June 20, 2015, 04:19:15 AM »
Down at my trails. Not strictly a phone video, but gopro. (I am in the red tee)

 http://www.pinkbike.com/video/412554/

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The Bike Shop / Re: stock stem woes
« on: May 31, 2015, 04:38:56 AM »
as long as you don't sand the knurling down too much, it is a good idea to remove the paint on the inside of the stem for sure. When I first started riding this helped me loads with my stem slipping

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The Lounge / Re: The Music Thread
« on: May 29, 2015, 02:54:13 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hsV0T47Obg

Sage Francis - spoken word, was incredible live

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