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The Bike Shop / Re: The "what the hell is Odyssey / Gspprt cooking up" thread.

« on: October 28, 2014, 10:41:25 PM »

i guess it depends on the tolerances between different manufacturers/factories

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The Bike Shop / Re: New T1 drool

« on: October 26, 2014, 06:27:49 PM »

ruben always has awesome frame graphics, well t1 always do generally

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The Bike Shop / Re: The "what the hell is Odyssey / Gspprt cooking up" thread.

« on: October 21, 2014, 08:36:01 PM »

fed tom is just being a sourpuss, dont mind him

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The Bike Shop / Re: The "what the hell is Odyssey / Gspprt cooking up" thread.

« on: October 21, 2014, 07:19:46 PM »

yeah ive got an rnc ti seatclamp anyway so kiss my ole

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The Lounge / Re: BG's Current Injuries

« on: October 20, 2014, 08:59:59 PM »

im pretty good for the first time in ages. my knee gives me a bit of shit occasionally but im not limping around atm which is a positive

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The Bike Shop / Re: The "what the hell is Odyssey / Gspprt cooking up" thread.

« on: October 20, 2014, 07:29:41 PM »

smartie pants. the 2pc design would in fact be advantageous for socket drive, were any companies actually using it. other than a splined adaptor (which is good for manufacturers not having to offer multiple sprocket bores), im not sure what the best way to include socket drive on a 3pc crankset-unless the nonagon is built into the crankarm itself.

yes bmx is stupid, but at least we dont weigh our seatclamps anymore

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The Bike Shop / Re: What did you do to your bike today? (v2)

« on: October 19, 2014, 07:27:25 PM »

you can get off your high horse right now brooklynrider

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The Bike Shop / Re: The "what the hell is Odyssey / Gspprt cooking up" thread.

« on: October 19, 2014, 07:26:16 PM »

ive seen a few more sprockets coming out in socket drive, its cool because the interface can facilitate inserts that can convert to spline drive meaning you dont need to switch to socket drive cranks straight away.

i guess the issue for most companies is making a compatible crankset. be hard to include the interface on a 3pc (unless you build it into the arm). maybe if more people knew about it and more companies were pushing it, it might catch on. if sprockets go below 25t again it could catch on, cos the regular sprocket bolt location interferes with the chain at such small sizes

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The Bike Shop / Re: finally new powerbites.

« on: October 19, 2014, 07:21:47 PM »

Also i would like to add that i thought Primo is pretty big.
I THINK have seen belts for idk what kind of motors, with the Pr1mo logo, super thin 20" racing comets and other racing tires... Seems like they are in a lot more than 'Just' bmx.

yeah primo make wheelchair tyres as well

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_sr_sporting-goods?ie=UTF8&field-brandtextbin=Primo&node=3375251

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The Bike Shop / Re: finally new powerbites.

« on: October 16, 2014, 04:31:03 AM »

2.5pc are really just 3pc with one of the end bolts built into the spindle

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The Bike Shop / Re: Mid school "collecting"

« on: October 15, 2014, 06:56:21 AM »

im a bit bummed tbh, been trying to pick up an old STA on the cheap for a while now (its a lot harder in australia than in the US), but now theyre gonna be priced well beyond what i wanna pay

STAs were north of 1k here from memory. Good luck finding one and even more luck finding one cheap in Australia. Keep an eye out for one in the States and then use myus to ship it over. they come up pretty often and aren't pricey.

yeah they were 500 quid in the uk (for the ox plat ones), but there were quite a lot going around at one point, and plenty of old slightly thrashed ones for like 50 quid.

skatepark rider-pm send, cheers

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The Bike Shop / Re: finally new powerbites.

« on: October 15, 2014, 06:53:59 AM »

It looks like the only thing is shares with any previous primo cranks is the basic arm profile, id say they were designed to be 2pc...?

Possibly resolved the pedal inserts.
Splined axle, so that should reduce the creaking.
The clamp area on the arm is now a more regular thickness, ie no axle corners on the top/bottom - http://www.albes.com/ProductImages/crankphotos/primopowbite.jpg so that should stop the breakages that occurred there across there.
Half as many interfaces to worry about.

so stupid when they designed the hollowbites with angular edges. one of the main things people disliked about powerbites was hitting their ankles on them, so hey lets make them sharper and more pointy.
primo dropped the ball years ago now i think about it, i heard the n4fl or whatever the flangeless hub was called wobbles more than a profile, and then someone died when his primo bars snapped on a landing while riding dirt-he had a helmet on too

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The Bike Shop / Re: Dennis Enarson Cranks

« on: October 15, 2014, 04:35:40 AM »

either they wobble all the time or theyre so tight you have to cut them off.

What? Just...no.

Older Profile cranks had threaded arms so you could use an actual crank extractor to get them off. They seem to have removed this feature now though.

Which is great if you have to take them off the first time you install them. Miss a couple of grinds and those threads are fucked. Its hard enough to get the flushmount bolt washers out after a few missed grinds.

this. they fold over real easily

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The Bike Shop / Re: finally new powerbites.

« on: October 15, 2014, 04:25:15 AM »

I don't think anyone bought them to tell you how it went. Ask seth kimbrough

Lol hahah. He's still our reli-rock hero though!

i nearly threw up when i saw these. 2 piece powerbites? arreeeeeuuuurrrrrghhhhhhhh fuck you primo
......
these new ones are disgusting though, another colossal primo fail

I don't really see where you're coming from. But i respect your point of view nonetheless.

It's just, they look 99,9% like the old powerbites, which imho weren't badly designed or shaped. You just need to like alloy cranks.
So to me,  saying those look disgusting is saying any power/hollowbite looks disgusting.

That's opinion. But what is so fail about it?
I don't see how there's anything wrong with 2-piece since everybody and their dog are producing 2 piece cranks.

The 2 piece design allows for these nice big hollow axles, and without these axles your cranks are nót going to sell these days.
Basically it's reduced in weight, while maintaining strength, plus they've updated the crankarm connecting interface to something that is going to outperform the previous design.

Doesn't sound bad to me. 

Your maintenance rules are right on, if you have 'old school' power/hollowbites; not a bad thing to say about it.
But the industry moved on to bigger and better things, Primo adjusted their design to the specs of todays consumers, and kept it looking like the same stuff.

If you ask me, apart from knowing how the inserts perfom, i'd say Primo did a good job on 'keeping up' 3 years late.
JUST like with their first female cassette.

That's a whole other story though, not smart but regardless, i still like to think Primo is a good company heh heh.

its pretty pointless making a crankset that was designed as a 3pc into a 2pc. for years after i started the only 2pc crank out was some dodgy sounding khe one, they were a joke. its only cos of wombolts (which were designed to be 2pc from the start) that they became viable again.

the main downside is for sprocket removal/replacement, if you run your sprocket on the side of the cranks with the fixed arm, you have to take the whole thing out to replace it.
this also goes for adjusting crankarm/bb spacing etc. might not be an issue for many people but its a definite inferiority of 2pc cranks compared to 3pc.

theres also the point that if you have an issue with a 3pc crank arm, its possible to fit a replacement easily. if you stuff up the fixed arm on a 2pc you pretty much might as well buy a whole new set of cranks

plus now it seems like the majority of companys are moving to splined sprockets in a 22mm or 24mm interface, so in fact primo are not really tailoring their range to what the consumers want.


what i hate most is the aesthetics. over the last few years primo has taken some of its most trusted and revered classic parts and redesigned them making a mockery of them.
the remix with the piddley piss weak bearings in it, and now this. Primo were THE shit back 10-15 years back (before odyssey really stepped up their game), and now they come out with a load of nasty looking inferior remakes of their old parts, and rasta complete wheels. apparently the new V monster is decent, though it might as well not be a vmonster as they ditched the classic tread design

i wonder how long primo will last, seems like tips plus is gonna make way more money off stranger and cult because those are the sort of brands kids want to buy, irrespective of how good their products actually are. engineering stands for nothing in bmx because of the adolescent consumerbase who wants stuff with weed references and half assed illuminate imagery

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The Bike Shop / Re: Mid school "collecting"

« on: October 14, 2014, 04:29:33 AM »

i guess as certain things become more desirable it bumps prices up-some of that oldschool stuff goes for stupid prices (especially as everyone ive spoke to who actually rode in the 80s reminisces fondly about how shit bikes and parts were back then). with midschool stuff being dirt cheap until recently i guess people decided to start buying that up instead cos it was better value. also maybe the age of people collecting this stuff, i could imagine people getting into building up old bikes, filling their house with them then thinking "now what"? they cost too much and are too hard to get hold of to be worth actually riding for most people

im a bit bummed tbh, been trying to pick up an old STA on the cheap for a while now (its a lot harder in australia than in the US), but now theyre gonna be priced well beyond what i wanna pay