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The Bike Shop / Re: Remember how a few arm-chair engineers called this out? Well who'd a thunk it..
« on: February 01, 2016, 12:41:27 AM »Hahaha because no one ever broke any thing gsport or odyssey. Bike parts break. Get off yer high horse Georgie. I don't think I could name one of my friends that had wombolts or twombolts that didn't break them.
You're missing the point completely but enjoy being a bitter jerkoff. When you figure out whether or not you can name one of your friends that didn't break Odyssey cranks then come on back and I'll Snapchat a pic of my cock to you.
What point am I missing? The fact that it took George 3 generations of cranks to finally make a set that didn't snap left and right? So what if the wemakethings guys designed one pair of shitty cranks? You think it's the first time a company has fucked something up trying to be innovating? For someone who has designed cranks that have had plenty of there own issues to point this out is funny.
its extremely hard to gauge how good a pair of cranks are based on people's reports on the internet
1. say you sold 10,000 pairs of cranks "A", 50 pairs are faulty. you may see 40 of those with faulty cranks "A" talk about them on the internet, and come to the conclusion that these cranks "A" aren't that good.
2. now you're comparing these cranks "A" to another product by another company, cranks "B". you only see 20 bad reviews about them, so they can't be as bad as cranks "A" right?
what we don't know is the total number of cranks "B" (or cranks "A") sold. Cranks "B" could have just sold 800 pairs, giving it a faulty product ratio of 20/800 = 2.5%, whilst cranks "A" actually had a ratio of 50/10,000 = 0.5%. These numbers are of course made up, but it demonstrates the issue with silent evidence. you only hear about bad reviews most of the time, but very little people take into consideration how many faulty products there are compared to how many were sold.
secondly, people very seldom rave mad about how good a product like cranks are. it's like I.T. and electricity - you don't even think about it when it works perfectly without flaws, you just use it. nobody (well, not many) goes on the internet to tell eveyone that a product WORKS JUST AS IT IS EXPECTED!!!!1111!!ELEVENONEONE!
thirdly, we often dont' put enough emphasis on warranty service when we choose a new product - but if you look at the track record (not just the advertised) of customer services/warranty, some companies are well loved because they often go beyond what's stipulated in their terms and conditions about warrantying stuff.
now i'm not trying to argue with you at all - blindly arguing in favour of odyssey with my points above would just make me an ody fanboy, since i don't have their sales figures vs other companies either; so who knows what kind of faulty product ratio each company has? all i'm trying to point out is that we're quite likely to think we're more "in the know" about how well a product performs than we actually are.
what i do know, however, is that ody's been one of the companies that REALLY take care of their warranty and replace their products. If i was to buy new products with some non conventional design that haven't proven themselves in the bmx mass market, i'm more inclined towards buying their stuff, if i know that they'll take care of me should the product turns out crappy.
if WTP have similar attitudes / track record towards warranty etc, i'd also be happy to buy from them.
