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Classic threads / Automotive Hotness 4.0h

« on: April 16, 2009, 01:32:26 AM »

and you lose your warranty if you turn trac. control off, use the launch function, or go anywhere near a racetrack that it might turn the limiter off, so your fucked when the tranny goes out(like alot of them have)

they really dropped the ball in the after purchase care on that one

They've dealt with the problem, but they dropped the ball on covering it until they dealt with it.


Sorry, I am not a fan of it.
I'd take a z06. Yeah, call me stupid, but if I mess it up, I like knowing I can get parts, or that a blown tranny isn't going to cost me 1/4th the cost of the car if I mess up. I like to drive my cars hard, and know parts will be available to fix it.

Not to mention entirely too many fanbois get stupid when they see that car. "ZOMG A GTR!!111!!", yeah, it's a Nissan, calm down.

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Classic threads / Automotive Hotness 4.0h

« on: April 11, 2009, 12:42:56 AM »

e30 rear suspension designs were not the best...Even though i know you love(d?) your e30.

I said it was balanced, I never said it had great suspension. It's suspension had one major issue, and that was if you brake you had major camber change causing loss of traction. If you know how to drive the car, you can EASILY compensate for it.  E30's often put higher powered cars to shame because of how they drive. It was a momentum, you brake early and get back on the gas fast, giving it gas, reversed the braking issues giving you lots of traction. The car had very good brakes, and could out brake much newer cars with larger brakes on them.

The rear suspension was also used on the Z3 roadster.

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Classic threads / Automotive Hotness 4.0h

« on: April 11, 2009, 12:42:20 AM »

it was a moderately modified lightened sport model. Don't pin me as an import only dude. For one i still drive an american car, and two i like everything and anything. I still have to defend what I currently ride because people are ill informed. So in this case of course I'm going to be biased towards the FWD setup because it's what I'm driving now, and what everyone is bashing.

This is also because its set up to handle the power , full bushings, coilovers, solid mounts etc

Moderately modified? That is not even CLOSE to stock suspension.
Throw that same amount of stuff at a Mustang and it has quite the steering potential as well. RWD cars, particularly American ones are notorious for building in TONS of oversteer on purpose due to good old Nader.

You have to keep in mind that RWD was the only thing out for decades of performance. Now that FWD is becoming popular you will see that change. Granted Top Fuel and such will always be dominated by RWD. FWD can and will continue to catch up and rank with RWD in almost every racing aspect. All the FWD technology is still relatively young.

None of this should even be debatable as we all know the end winner is $$$$. Whoever puts the most of it into whichever platform is going to win. (AND DRIVER) (My dream ride is a porsche, can't go any more opposite rear engine rear drive then FWD, I'm not into choosing one style for life)

First of FWD was out prior to the 1900's. It's not new. Cord used it heavily in the 30's and many race teams tried putting it into normal racing circles (throwing huge amounts of money into it) and it got it's ass handed to it. The only reason it does as well as it does is because of modern technology giving it a push. It does not compete one on one with rear wheel drive except instances where strict rules give it an advantage or it gets a bit lucky.

Now that FWD is becoming popular it will change, doubtful.  It will become more and more popular in club racing because they are cheap and more plentiful than rwd cars because manufacturers built a ton of them. The clubs will slowly either handicap the rwd cars more, or the older rwd cars will just simply become dated. This is exactly what happened with the RX7.





You guys can play up fwd all you want. It's a handicap, no matter how you slice it. Not to mention they suck to work on. Buy one and do a clutch, trans swap, or a final gear swap, screw that. Steering rack? Yeah good luck on some of them. I hate working on the damn things, it's always a hassle.

I have yet to see any real benefit except in slippery conditions like ice and snow where they can accelerate better. However a well balanced rwd car will do almost as well.
 
So why own one again? oh that's right, they're cheap.
Read back to how the whole import/fwd scene got going, it wasn't because they saw some great potential in fwd, it was because they couldn't get rwd cars.

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Classic threads / Automotive Hotness 4.0h

« on: April 10, 2009, 02:15:55 PM »

I'd take the fwd on the streets over rwd just from past experience.  If you do get a little throttle heavy in FWD you will push rather then having to control a potential spinout. There is nothing scarier then fishtailing when you aren't trying to. Powering out of a nice 4wd drift in the FWD is great fun, as much as fishtailing a RWD. The worst part of FWD is the negative social stigma that it's worthless.

What you are doing, you shouldn't be doing on the street.

However, try driving a decent RWD like BMW. A well setup rwd car will not suddenly just spin out (unless it is rear engined). A well setup car will give you lots of warning before coming around and be very easy to bring back, IF you are driving properly. Pushing is only marginally safer in a car that was setup right, and I don't mean adding a bunch of crap to tune it. My BMW could be tuned with tire pressure even with stock suspension.


FWD isn't worthless, its a grocery getter system. It was used because it is safe, easy, cheap and efficient (lightweight low friction for fuel economy reasons). It was not intended for performance and no matter how good you make it, you always have that handicap.

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Classic threads / Automotive Hotness 4.0h

« on: April 10, 2009, 02:07:02 PM »

I've had both. They are both fun, but my front drive turbo car is a hell of alot more fun then my older camaro. This is also because its set up to handle the power , full bushings, coilovers, solid mounts etc. I can outlaunch my old camaro in this thing, granted i didn't have much suspension work in the camaro. Turbo car also has around 260-280 to the wheels vs. camaros' NA 350 putting down 230-250. The nice thing is i still get a hell of alot better gas milage when cruisin vs. the V8.

You are comparing a heavily modded car to a stock BOAT.
What do you expect.

This is the problem I have with so many of the import guys...
You so quickly start comparing stock to heavily modded.

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Classic threads / Automotive Hotness 4.0h

« on: April 09, 2009, 06:08:00 PM »

Maybe, But you can have as much fun with a FWD car as you can RWD as long as you know how to drive it.

http://www.drivers-republic.com/dr_tv/index.cfm?videoid=3fdd58508cab4432b32fcc7df8f26274&area=videos

The amount of speed it takes to slide a fwd car makes it a bit less fun for normal street driving. Not that I would know anything about that.


Truth is, each type of drivetrain can do things the others can't.

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Classic threads / Automotive Hotness 4.0h

« on: April 09, 2009, 01:51:21 PM »

any non turbo impreza is boring as hell. Glad your not like the 99% of people who must have rwd for some reason. I dont really know the american market (some cars seem to sell for stupid money over there?) but sentras seem like a wise investment. Chuck a sr20det or sr16/20ve and you will have a fun little car.

You grew up with fwd didn't you.

Many who learn on rwd, prefer it, it drives different.

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Classic threads / Automotive Hotness 4.0h

« on: April 08, 2009, 12:50:35 PM »

so who wants to find me my next car?

requirements:
-sedan
-Japanese
-preferably older "boxy styling" but something i can get with lower mileage (under 125k)
-Option of going turbo on stock motor and ability to handle it (sr20de basically, but other types too)

car should be luxury or nice interior styling for its age and not a something you see everywhere (i wan the exact opposite of what i have now i think)

$6000 spending limit

Let me re-phrase my answer since I missed a few key points.  :bustin:

Lets pick high end Japanese, with a legendary bulletproof motor, low miles, not too old, and for $6k...

You're asking for a Supra for $6k. :nuts:

Luxury Japanese comes at a cost, motors like that are few and far between, low miles cost money, newer costs money. You have Supra tastes on a Honda budget, stick to your Honda or be prepared to give up a few requirements.

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Classic threads / Automotive Hotness 4.0h

« on: April 08, 2009, 04:40:44 AM »

eh, a little too old for me. im lookin at like 95 and up

if i could afford an is300 that would be the winner, but sadly i cant.

god damn honda, why couldnt you do everyone and yourself a favor and make the prelude rwd

For what you want, good luck.

You may want to look into a Sentra, lots of the same parts as a G20. Probably the only thing that will do what you want. However Sentras are often pretty thrashed. They were cheap and people treated them as such.

Also check Mazda, otherwise, you are pretty much out of luck I think.

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Classic threads / Automotive Hotness 4.0h

« on: April 01, 2009, 02:30:49 AM »

Haha, Sheep doesn't like the Panda.

It's not the car, it's what they are doing with it.

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Site Help and Rules / Rep Power

« on: April 01, 2009, 01:56:49 AM »

Do all mods have the power to mess with REP?

Individual forum mods like he was, no.
Regular staff can.

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Classic threads / Automotive Hotness 4.0h

« on: March 31, 2009, 03:51:34 AM »

No!
:mad2:

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Site Help and Rules / Rep Power

« on: March 31, 2009, 03:23:27 AM »

Thats how Jame$ works.

No one said James did it, and James never had the power to mess with rep.

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Classic threads / Automotive Hotness 4.0h

« on: March 29, 2009, 11:16:18 PM »

That Z is killer.

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Site Help and Rules / Social Groups

« on: March 29, 2009, 11:12:32 PM »

Same as any other section of BG.