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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 29, 2012, 12:22:22 PM »

We're in the process of building a 22" Holmes for a customer with all american made parts. I will report back with photos once it's compleate. Obviously we can't get %100 American made though (grips, tires).

Awesome looking forward to the pictures.  What TT length is it?

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 28, 2012, 10:23:25 AM »

Jay over at S&M said they were in the 22" game for the long haul, so I'm betting that those rims will be made in 22" also. :cheers:

If so we are all set!

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 27, 2012, 04:43:15 PM »

There's a bunch of 24" tire options out there.  If you can find some lightly used or pony up for new, the Schwalbe tabletops are nice.  Tioga, maxxis, kenda, and dmr make some good ones.

Stoked is right the tabletop tire is amazing.  As a matter of fact I still have the one pictured here on the front if you are interested Bob.  Trade?  It has a lot of tread left... like new and it weighs like 500 grams and grips crazy good especially in dirt.

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 27, 2012, 04:41:12 PM »

What is wrong with the Revenge wheel set that S&M makes anyway?  It didn't look bad.

The rims have held up since mid august but the rear pinned seam is starting to go.

I rebuilt the rims a couple weeks ago and measured the rims with a micrometer.  The revenge rim is identical to the quadrant rim.  Not a bad rim at all and I am surprised they have held up this long (lots of cases etc.).  I really don't want to buy a whole wheelset just to get rims again.

Does anyone know is these aftermarket rims will be offered in 22"?  Apparently they have a welded seam.

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 26, 2012, 05:04:55 PM »

I had a short look inside the Faction Bike Co. rear hub (sorry no pictures so far). It's a Q-Lite system similar to the WTP supreme hub. Unlike a normal cassette hub, the whole internals are reversed, so the pawls ( 4 double pawls?) are inside the hub shell. Actually I dontīt know the producer and I can't find any aftermarket driver so far. I sent an email to Faction Bike Co. and wait for an answer.

Holy $hit!  I would be willing to bet the WTP 9t driver would work.  It is seriously hard for me to imagine Faction would design and fab a one off hub/driver.  Thanks again for all of the info.

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The Bike Shop / What did you do to your bike today? (v2)

« on: December 24, 2012, 11:59:02 AM »

Spent the morning riding BMX with my son at RaysMTB.  Saw a bunch of old friends there too... what an awesome day so far.

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 17, 2012, 10:08:32 PM »

Oh and I went full Mulville camo Saturday.  I had a hundred dollar credit and got the 15% plus free shipping on the elite's from Dans (crazy cheap).  Got the stem and chainwheel from RaysMTB.

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 17, 2012, 10:03:25 PM »

I'd be shocked if minimum order is 25. Probably closer to hundred/s but that's just a guess.

If you round up all the people, on all the forums that are into 22's, we still wouldn't have enough people/cash, I don't think.

I'm curious how many CMC's buddy purchased when he got the rims he got,way back when.

I have considered buying the faction wheels just to get the rims and have a set of extra spokes.. and hubs I could use on other bikes... I might buy the whole kit but I have to say after riding for 35 years I know a great bmx bike when I ride one.  Once I moved the rear wheel back far in the drop outs and got the Hoder bars with a push stem... the Holmes is DIALED.

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 17, 2012, 09:42:04 PM »

right. So they finally get their product to market and all you can do is climb hills well.
They should have put a 9 on the hub. Or, sell just the damn rim so people can lace their own wheels.

Ya I am hoping Alienation comes through with rims...  Do you think we (as in the 22 guys on here) could team up and see if gsport or jim c would make a 22 rim?  How many guys do we have... at least 5 or 6.  I would take four 22" rollcage rims just for myself... minimum order could be 25?  If the total minimum order is more I could pony up.

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 17, 2012, 09:17:30 PM »

10/26 is the highest you can go with the stock wheel?

that's a low gearing.

Unless you can get a 9t driver... king kong?  Joytech?

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 17, 2012, 09:09:15 PM »

Very nice can you post pictures of the front tire and fork clearance?

Here are some details and some words about my first impressions [Please excuse my poor english ]. Please note, because of the rainy weather I haven't been rinding the Amero so far (except from a one minute session in my living room).

1. front tire clearance: With a 22 x 2.15 tire there is approximately 15 mm (0.6 inch) space between fork and tire.

2. back tire clearance with a 22 x 2.2 tire (almost slammed) is approximately 10 mm ( 0.4 inch).

3. The space between the sprocket and chainstays is very low. Concerning the wide and short rear end, a 26 T sprocket is the maximum that will fit. If you install a 9 T driver (back wheel comes with a 10 T driver), 2,88 will be the maximum gear ratio you can get.

4. As the other 22" frame-fork sets like S&M (Holmes), Indust or Standard the Amero are also made of 4130 tubes. HT, BB and CS are heat-treated. The welds seems to be very strong and professional made. Without having any experience with other 22" frames or forks like S&M for instance, I think the quality of all these 22" frame-fork-sets are pretty much the same.

5. So far faction bike co is the only company offering welded rims. They are  37 mm wide (1.46 inch) and seems to be very strong and durable. I can't say anything about the hubs beside that both are female hubs and the back wheel comes with a 10 T driver.

Beside of the poor or mid quality tires (hope to get the F22 foldable tires right after Xmas) the Amero frame-fork-wheel set is a high quality bike kit and is worth its price. Although I haven't been riding it, I'm absolutely stoked.
When the weather will clear up, I will find out how it rides. Afterwards I try to write a short review (hope you will understand me ).

Wow thanks for all the info!  How many pawls does the driver have?  Do you know if it is an Odyssey joytech clone?

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 16, 2012, 09:54:45 PM »

^ it's a different sized 22 inch wheel. I don't have the details but I know the racing world won't allow the 22 inch wheels that we've been riding (holmes, indust, faction) but do allow this new wheel from redline. the size difference isn't much, mm's difference.

There is also an O/S tire (over sized) that is still in the safe range of being legal on the track. Tioga makes it.

That's all I know.

talk about a cluster fuck.

Ya no kidding!

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 16, 2012, 07:58:55 PM »

I heard today that Redline has a 22 wheel bike that has been showing up at a local track in Dayton Ohio.  I did some poking around on the interwebz and came up with this photo.  Does anyone have any information?

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 16, 2012, 07:54:25 PM »

Build up my new Faction Bikes Amero set. So far without the F22 tires, hope to get them soon.

Very nice can you post pictures of the front tire and fork clearance?

Well here is my 22" Standard, to cold to ride it today and need to adjust the seat some still.

Very nice!

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 16, 2012, 07:53:32 PM »

you guys finding the bigger wheels are easier on the back

Hmmm... I don't have chronic back problems but I drink a lot (hard to stay hydrated) and I ride rhythm style jumps where there is a lot of pumping and g-outs so my core gets worked.

I have noticed that I can ride 3 to 5 times a week an hour to two hours on my holmes 22... whereas my 20" steadfast I could do the same for about 6 weeks and then I had to go for massotherapy on my lower back or I was out for a couple weeks.  

I think the difference is the fact I have a very upright stance on the holmes...  It has a long cs (end of the drop out) therefore I can run a profile push and hoder (really big) bars.  My stance is way more upright and the bike still feels balanced not too easy to pull up.

Now as far as riding a rigid bike that is jarring when you case hard the 22 wheel does pop out of hang ups and cases better but it is not hat much better than a 20".  In reference a 24" or 26" wheels is worlds away from how jarring 20 ans 22 wheels are.  The 22 is better but not by a lot.