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Title: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: MEAT on February 06, 2019, 04:02:07 PM
I know I'm basically talking to myself here, but on the off chance someone who rides BMX stumbles across this site one day, what's the opinion on the clutch?
Is it significantly better than the rest of the khe type coasters in terms of feel and engagement/mechanical reliability?

This Ezra freecoasting pawls shit all seems like witchcraft, I can't really find any opinions on it, so assume they suck?
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: weedbix on February 06, 2019, 04:51:28 PM
I haven't had the chance to play with one, but I keep getting told that it's the new Nankai, which is high praise

KHE resistance mech has problems
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: master on February 07, 2019, 11:00:14 AM
I highly haven't heard of any issues on the V2... Which means quite a bit for a coaster. I'd run one without hesitation. Odyssey would have your back if any issues arose so that helps as well.
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: Prodigal Son on February 07, 2019, 03:46:25 PM
The only issue I have seen is the axle. Kind of a wack design.
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: paranoidmexican on February 07, 2019, 11:52:06 PM
I know a few guys that run it (flatland) that really like it. Another friend bought the profile zcoaster and swears it’s the best coaster he’s ever had
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: Bunky on February 08, 2019, 11:05:44 AM
The only issue I have seen is the axle. Kind of a wack design.

What's wack about the axle design?  It's the strongest freecoaster axle out there.

I've got a Clutch v1, v2, a Profile Z, and an Ezra on bikes right now.  I've ridden Nankai's, NYB's, just about everything out there. 

The Clutch v2 is the best freecoaster out there.  I love mine.  Good price for a great working hub. 
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: Prodigal Son on February 08, 2019, 11:29:02 AM
It had like a 14mm non drive and 3/8” collared drive side bolts. That’s why I used that descriptor.
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: MEAT on February 08, 2019, 01:14:43 PM
V2 is 14mm both sides though right?

How's the Ezra bunky?
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: Bunky on February 08, 2019, 01:24:00 PM
Yeh, the v1 had a 3/8ths drive side bolt and a 14mm non-drive bolt, which was still better than a lot of other freecoasters out there that were either using two 3/8ths bolts, or just a normal 14mm axle. 

The v2's have both 14mm female bolts.

I actually really liked my Ezra hub a lot.  It popped and skipped a lot at first but then started doing it less, but still did it.  It's a light hub and I never had to replace the 6802 bearings in it.  I was cutting the 6802's out of my Geisha/poverty combo hub I was riding before that almost monthly because the inside bearing race was too tiny and would break.  I had a Greyhound too, that they changed to the 14mm inside diameter bearing races on (vs 15mm previously) and even those broke all the time and required a decent amount of work to extract the outside races.

The Ezra was the first freecoaster I ever had that I felt like I didn't need to maintain, which was a big change.  Up until that point, all of the freecoasters on the market required a decent amount of maintenance. 
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: JohnW on February 12, 2019, 08:23:17 PM
I had a v1 Clutch (well Sunday Cyclone since it was way cheaper, just without external slack adjustment) for a year and a half. Never had any issues or had to do any maintenance during that whole time. Ended up developing a little side to side play in the wheel. Asked Odyssey if I was right in my assumption that it needed a new non-drive shell bearing. They suggested a couple fixes and gave me a list of improvements they made on the v2 hub and offered to sell me one at a very good discount. I took them up on that and have been running it for 6 months without a single issue. Replaced my 10 year old Marmoset with a new G-Sport Simian to match the polished Clutch v2 I bought (and get better guards than the trashed Knight and BSD ones I had for the Marmoset).

Been running coasters for 10 years down and I'm super impressed with both versions of the Clutch. Saw everyone else blow up KHE, Federal, and Alienation coasters. I ran a Poverty 10t coaster for a few years before I sheared the driver in half. Replaced it with an Odyssey Reloader and out of the box I had to make custom springs to replace the stock butterfly springs. Put in the thrust bearing from the Poverty. Both of those I had to rip apart for maintenance once a month. Clutch would start sticking and not disengaging smoothly, and the driver bearings blew up after 5-6 weeks. Also had periodic issues with the resistance mechanisms resulting in slipping.

The Cyclone and the Clutch v2 have never once slipped on me, stuck, or blew a bearing up. It's a game changer not having to work on a freecoaster more often than a cassette. The v1 didn't have quite enough slack so I bought the non-adjustable max slack spacer and it was perfect. The v2 with the adjustable spacer had just a hair less slack than the v1 with the max slack spacer, and ended up being the perfect amount of slack. About the same amount of slack as my modded Reloader had. Almost never engages by accident, and there's still the option of more slack if 3/16" of a crank isn't enough for you with 28-9. Plus the dual 14mm bolts into a 20mm female axle means I no longer have to worry about damaging an axle. Both the Poverty and Reloader were discontinued when I had them, I had previously bent axles on 14mm male cassette hubs, and replacement axles were not available for my coasters. Now I don't have to worry about peg chinks or a drive side peg turning my rear hub into a paperweight.

I also ride more often now than I ever used to with the older hubs. I even go on 20-30 mile road bike rides with a freecoaster on a 20"...
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: JohnW on February 12, 2019, 08:26:28 PM
and even those broke all the time and required a decent amount of work to extract the outside races.
Headset star nut with the prongs bent a bit. You can also order a slightly smaller one for office furniture legs, since I used the headset one for 6902s. Hammer it in, flip the driver over, hammer the bearing race out, then flip that over in a vice and hammer the star nut out to reuse.
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: Dr. Steve Brule on February 13, 2019, 03:20:29 AM
I'm miles behind, was the Ody one the infamous G-Coaster.
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: weedbix on February 13, 2019, 09:03:25 AM
No. The Ody one is still axial clutch
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: Bunky on February 15, 2019, 08:31:53 AM
and even those broke all the time and required a decent amount of work to extract the outside races.
Headset star nut with the prongs bent a bit. You can also order a slightly smaller one for office furniture legs, since I used the headset one for 6902s. Hammer it in, flip the driver over, hammer the bearing race out, then flip that over in a vice and hammer the star nut out to reuse.

That is brilliant.  For a long time I had a bar end that I cut a grove into and could tighten it into the race and hammer it out with a punch from the other side, but I lost it around the time I moved to Raleigh.  About the time I moved here, I got an Ezra, though, and a Clutch v1 not too much later, and a Profile after that, so most of the broken bearings I deal with now are from other people's hubs I'm just helping out.
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: Hairfarmer on March 26, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
I'm running a KHE Astern that I've had for maybe 9 years and I've never had to open it up ever. The worst thing that happened was the slack adjustment screw in the axle fell out one day but I fixed that with some thread tape and it's been good since.
To keep it on topic, I have a friend with a clutch v2 and he says minimum slack isn't small enough. Probably not an issue for most freecoaster riders though.
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: smsabb on April 30, 2021, 01:48:43 PM
So I have a v2 Clutch and I have ridden it maybe 10 times and mostly just tooling around when I ride .After maybe a quarter mile of total distance it developed side to side play in the hub .They sent out a replacement driver but still have the same issue .Its an awesome hub but I wish it had some adjustment possibilities .
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: JohnW on May 07, 2021, 10:09:50 PM
So I have a v2 Clutch and I have ridden it maybe 10 times and mostly just tooling around when I ride .After maybe a quarter mile of total distance it developed side to side play in the hub .They sent out a replacement driver but still have the same issue .Its an awesome hub but I wish it had some adjustment possibilities .
Weird, it took well over a year of hard riding for the v1 to develop that and I still don't have any in the V2 after close to 2 years. If you have a spare wheel to ride you may wanna send that in to them, or hit up a local bike shop that carries Odyssey stuff for warranty. Maybe there was a machining mistake made at the factory? Mine's holding up great and I've had to rebuild freecoasters like 50 times before getting one, and I'm very rough on my bike. And also go on road bike rides with it...
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: smsabb on October 04, 2021, 09:17:37 AM
Odyssey replaced the whole wheel .I ran a shop for years and worked in others .Have had a freecoaster for a real long time (First one was a graveyard freecoaster (nankai ) That I got in 96 . Im wondering how the profile hub is and the new bsd hub .
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: smsabb on December 13, 2022, 12:00:20 PM
So if anyone cares for an update ,My first clutch hub the problems I had were because they didnt put the c clip in the hub from the factory and there was something wonky happening because of that .I got both the Madera and the bsd and didnt like either one .So back on my clutch v2 and have 2 wheels I spent wayyyyy too much money on that I need to get rid of .
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: JohnW on December 19, 2022, 06:26:42 PM
So if anyone cares for an update ,My first clutch hub the problems I had were because they didnt put the c clip in the hub from the factory and there was something wonky happening because of that .I got both the Madera and the bsd and didnt like either one .So back on my clutch v2 and have 2 wheels I spent wayyyyy too much money on that I need to get rid of .
That C-clip was an important part to keep the hub together without putting side load on the driver bearing, which wouldn't work now that it's a needle bearing - and was the main cause of old style coasters blowing up.

According to FB memories I laced my Clutch v2 up 4 years ago last week. Got a very tiny bit of side to side play, and that's it. Still working perfectly, all I've done was open it up to regrease it over 2 years ago cause it started sticking a tiny bit when I would stop pedaling.  Absolutely insane that I've had the same coaster hold up for a single year, let alone 4. I used to break the old ones at least once every couple months if I didn't periodically rebuild them...
Title: Re: Odyssey clutch v2 opinions
Post by: smsabb on January 10, 2023, 01:24:30 PM
More things I have figured out ,My chainline was off by less than 1/8th of an inch and it caused my hollow keychain to wear out . 100 dollars down the drain .But still zero problems with my v2 clutches ,And the play that was in my old one is gone after I put in the c clip.