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The Street => The Bike Shop => Topic started by: streetStreet on April 04, 2016, 12:17:21 PM

Title: Sunday
Post by: streetStreet on April 04, 2016, 12:17:21 PM
Is Sunday boring as fuck without Jim Cielencki?
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: Zoidberg on April 04, 2016, 12:19:31 PM
Dunno but I'm thinking about getting their hubs for a build, any word on them that anybody's heard?
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: Prodigal Son on April 04, 2016, 12:55:15 PM
Do they have any parts that aren't complete bike quality? Besides their frames, everything seems cheap.
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: 14thStbikes on April 04, 2016, 02:24:15 PM
Can't lie, I haven't been as interested in the brand in a while now. Hadn't thought about it being directly related to Jim C. leaving, but the approximate timeline is about the same. Can't put my finger on anyone reason, but definitely not as hype on them as I was during the first frame era through the Second Wave.
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: Narcoleptic Insomniac on April 04, 2016, 07:17:45 PM
What's Jim C doing now?
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: dude... on April 04, 2016, 09:07:45 PM
going off his insta he eats lots of health food tacos, and does long distance running. shame he doesnt still ride a bit after bmx being such a big part of his life

the success of sundays aaron ross completes was kinda their downfall at the same time. people who werent really up on current riding liked to collect the completes, so i think sunday got geared more towards that as they were no doubt making more money than the aftermarket frames, but at the same time most other riders werent big on aaron ross neon bikes with bright coloured tyres. also, odyssey wouldnt want to be doubling up on parts across the two brands. id still consider buying one of the new sunday frames, cos my og was great (still have it) but id probs rather get an STA
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: montymitch on April 04, 2016, 09:17:12 PM
The new street sweeper bars look good, but other than that there isn't much going on. The Broadcaster frame has been around for ages now.
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: JFax on April 05, 2016, 01:00:22 AM
I always wondered how input G had in the design as it seems like it incorporates a lot of the stuff I read from him from the years.
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: MSBNL on April 05, 2016, 06:36:14 AM
Still stoked on Sunday, allthough I have to agree that I'm less impressed by their budget parts. But as long as they produce the Soundwave frame they have my vote. Saw this bit on Jim C a few weeks ago, apparently he's running a marathon:
http://bmx.transworld.net/news/jim-cielencki-runs-every-street-in-buffalo/#gF9f8sZAkSYWDDjd.97
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: Oddity on April 05, 2016, 09:45:01 AM
Their forks are still dope and that cheap Freeze stem is good.
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: Zoidberg on April 05, 2016, 01:48:40 PM
Their forks are still dope and that cheap Freeze stem is good.

The sprockets too, cheap and good. I think it's only the rims that look below par tbh.

Does nobody know anything about the hubs tho?
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: Narcoleptic Insomniac on April 05, 2016, 02:05:19 PM
I liked when there were companies that specialized in making only frames and maybe bars or forks and there were parts companies that made the other stuff. Now it seems like all companies make everything.
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: MSBNL on April 05, 2016, 04:09:27 PM
Freeze stem looks good and the dimensions are good as well, maybe it's just me but I have 2 and both were pinched after intalling them once, and because the thread doesn't run all the way through you can't use the coin trick to unpinch them.
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: alaskun on April 06, 2016, 02:24:27 AM
I lost interest pretty early when they started doing all the colorway stuff, but always wanted one of the 3rd waves.

Mythbusters, in their final season, finally did an imploding train car/tanker episode
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-T88zCaz8XNdzA1T0VFRER3bXc/view?usp=sharing

and it really illustrates how much damage a dent can do. I wonder how much Sunday sales would have been affected if that episode had come out in 2007...

Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: slvtn on April 06, 2016, 05:31:17 AM
Still stoked on Sunday, allthough I have to agree that I'm less impressed by their budget parts. But as long as they produce the Soundwave frame they have my vote. Saw this bit on Jim C a few weeks ago, apparently he's running a marathon:
http://bmx.transworld.net/news/jim-cielencki-runs-every-street-in-buffalo/#gF9f8sZAkSYWDDjd.97

Awesome. Great to see he's putting the same enthusiasm into running like he did with BMX.
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: G on April 06, 2016, 10:37:01 AM
The BMX market has moved a lot towards complete bikes and we have had to put a lot of emphasis on that for Sunday. With any new part we have to decide if it will be Sunday or Odyssey or G-Sport. Sunday is where our high end frames are but otherwise it tends to be "conservative" budget parts. We have innovated (like with the beefier single wall rims) with Sunday where we need a lower price part that still works well enough to ride hard, but the more advanced parts will always be Odyssey or G-Sport. To be honest, I dont understand it that well myself, but as long as I get to work on new products I'm happy to see it with any name on it.

:)
G.
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: Oddity on April 06, 2016, 12:43:55 PM
It's cool some of the "catalogue" parts come from Odyssey's catalogue
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: metalbmxer on April 06, 2016, 04:26:45 PM
The BMX market has moved a lot towards complete bikes and we have had to put a lot of emphasis on that for Sunday. With any new part we have to decide if it will be Sunday or Odyssey or G-Sport. Sunday is where our high end frames are but otherwise it tends to be "conservative" budget parts. We have innovated (like with the beefier single wall rims) with Sunday where we need a lower price part that still works well enough to ride hard, but the more advanced parts will always be Odyssey or G-Sport. To be honest, I dont understand it that well myself, but as long as I get to work on new products I'm happy to see it with any name on it.

:)
G.

yeah it's a little confusing that the brands essentially crossover--odyssey/gsport for high end parts, Sunday for lower end parts. and then back to Sunday for top of the line frames.

I've been a fan of yours G since before Gsport came under odsy and always get your latest offerings whether it's the birdcage rims, clutch hub, or keychain. good shit G keep it up
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: streetStreet on April 08, 2016, 10:05:47 AM
I think the Aaron Ross frame is great now. There's something I just dont like about my forecaster. If I throw it off a bridge and it breaks can I warranty it?
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: montymitch on April 08, 2016, 10:37:59 AM
There's something I just dont like about my forecaster. If I throw it off a bridge and it breaks can I warranty it?

Haha, I held a bitter hatred for my Forecaster. I couldn't ever put my finger one exactly why I didn't like it, but I went back to my 2nd Wave and have no regrets about selling the Forecaster.
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: condrbkr on April 11, 2016, 10:37:55 PM
I liked when there were companies that specialized in making only frames and maybe bars or forks and there were parts companies that made the other stuff. Now it seems like all companies make everything.

This. It made pro bike checks that much more interesting. You got to see what your pros really wanted to ride vs. 'these are the list of parts that come on the complete bike we also offer which is just a slightly downgraded version'.
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: paranoidmexican on April 12, 2016, 10:07:48 AM
I regret selling my forecaster. If I could get a 20" Sunday frame I would
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: RAILS! on August 12, 2017, 03:20:35 AM
I'm still riding a 20.5" Vinnie Sammon first wave. It's fucking great.
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: JohnW on August 12, 2017, 09:37:25 AM
I'm still riding a 21" original Sunday. I kinda want to upgrade to a new Sunday next year after how well it's held up. I've twisted and cracked other frames, and cracked dropouts. None of that has happened on my Sunday and I haven't seen anyone else close to competing with features like the hollow dropouts.
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: Boomhauer on August 22, 2017, 03:23:22 AM
I'm still riding a 21" original Sunday. I kinda want to upgrade to a new Sunday next year after how well it's held up. I've twisted and cracked other frames, and cracked dropouts. None of that has happened on my Sunday and I haven't seen anyone else close to competing with features like the hollow dropouts.
They are pretty dialed frames, not the best I've ridden but still top 3 and the warranty dept. is top notch  but I was still expecting a bit longer life span out of my Soundwave frames with all the engineering behind them but everything can break and they did last quite a while.
Title: Re: Sunday
Post by: skateparkrider on October 24, 2017, 10:57:44 PM
I was for sure a big fan of the "Jim C" Sunday era.  But I don't think there has been a single team in BMX history that has been "on top of the game" or at it's peak for more than a decade.  The younger kids seem to be stoked on the Sunday team now and the way the team/brand is marketed.  So I guess that is really more important in the long run.