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Title: new T1/animal tires
Post by: full metal jacky on March 23, 2016, 01:06:07 PM
(http://nsa37.casimages.com/img/2016/03/23/160323081351284536.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/i/160323081351284536.jpg.html)

like the collab, pattern not so much, looks like a generic 2.4 tire
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: milhous on March 23, 2016, 02:07:24 PM
I like the looks of that. The sizing will be the deciding facor for me though .......... 2.25/2.1 would be ideal, but I am not too optomistic about that actually happening.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Prodigal Son on March 23, 2016, 02:31:54 PM
Thats weird, never would have guessed the two would meet. The T1 tread indent is dope! T1 wallride marks all over the place.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Narcoleptic Insomniac on March 23, 2016, 03:06:47 PM
I hope it has thin sidewalls. Thick sidewalls are good for grinding durability but tend to ride and land harshly on anything that isn't perfectly smooth concrete. Thin sidewalled tires give you a much nicer ride and also happen to be lighter (roadies refer to them as 'supple' I believe).
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: JFax on March 23, 2016, 06:05:31 PM
I hope it has thin sidewalls. Thick sidewalls are good for grinding durability but tend to ride and land harshly on anything that isn't perfectly smooth concrete. Thin sidewalled tires give you a much nicer ride and also happen to be lighter (roadies refer to them as 'supple' I believe).

Never thought of this.

Im too surprised about the two companies doing a collar, seems like two different sides of the spectrum
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: dude... on March 23, 2016, 07:10:29 PM
yeah wow random collab. kinda cool though. while it does look pretty similar to most big slick tyres these days, it looks a lot better than those mingin mtt tyres
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Oddity on March 23, 2016, 08:13:57 PM
Doubt it'll happen but I'd scoop one up if it came in under 2" wide
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Brooklynrider on March 23, 2016, 08:18:08 PM
I hope it has thin sidewalls. Thick sidewalls are good for grinding durability but tend to ride and land harshly on anything that isn't perfectly smooth concrete. Thin sidewalled tires give you a much nicer ride and also happen to be lighter (roadies refer to them as 'supple' I believe).
Mountain bikers set their tires up tubeless for this exact reason. The general bmx community is definitely too dumb to understand or try it but I'm surprised no one on bikeguide has tried it.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: LeonLikesToRock on March 23, 2016, 11:59:56 PM
How long until they're out? Didn't Empire post something about them after Interbike?
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: amishrob on March 24, 2016, 12:00:59 AM
I hope it has thin sidewalls. Thick sidewalls are good for grinding durability but tend to ride and land harshly on anything that isn't perfectly smooth concrete. Thin sidewalled tires give you a much nicer ride and also happen to be lighter (roadies refer to them as 'supple' I believe).
Mountain bikers set their tires up tubeless for this exact reason. The general bmx community is definitely too dumb to understand or try it but I'm surprised no one on bikeguide has tried it.
someone here did, a guy from the uk who also rode mtb. it was AGES ago though.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: tecnic1 on March 24, 2016, 05:04:48 AM
I saw somewhere that widths are 2.4/2.2.

Small tire dudes can get fucked.

+1 on thin sidewalls.  Don't  Animal tires usually have pretty thick sidewalls?
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Narcoleptic Insomniac on March 24, 2016, 08:09:46 AM
Sidewalls on GLHs are so thick you can almost ride them with no air.

If someone knows of a good tubeless set up tutorial I willing to try it and report back provided it costs no or little money. I have and old hazard lite wheel and old GLH I can use.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: badlight on March 24, 2016, 09:36:02 AM
I tried a tubeless set up once, with stanz no tubes or whatever. It kept blowing off at like 50 psi, no bueno.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Sasha on March 24, 2016, 11:40:22 AM
Sidewalls on GLHs are so thick you can almost ride them with no air.

If someone knows of a good tubeless set up tutorial I willing to try it and report back provided it costs no or little money. I have and old hazard lite wheel and old GLH I can use.

Gorilla tape your rim instead of rimtape. Cut a 16" tube down the centre, around the top and stretch it onto your rim. Put your tire on between the flaps of tubes with a bit of sealant. Pump it up, cut off the excess tube hanging out.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Stoked on March 24, 2016, 12:27:01 PM
Where's the damn T1 stem
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: full metal jacky on March 24, 2016, 03:10:48 PM
Where's the damn T1 stem

This. last year i thought it was so close with the zodiac eng teasing
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Narcoleptic Insomniac on March 24, 2016, 05:15:22 PM
They couldn't find a manufacturer to make the stems so that is on hold for now.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Hank Chinaski on March 24, 2016, 06:57:48 PM
I had my hands on the zodiac made stem, it looked amazing. Not sure what happened there, I thought Ken was doing them.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Prodigal Son on March 24, 2016, 10:38:54 PM
I'm surprised t1 has had the relationship with S&M as long as they have. Dude doesn't have a good track record with being pleased with many companies.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: LeonLikesToRock on March 25, 2016, 12:27:06 AM
I'm surprised t1 has had the relationship with S&M as long as they have. Dude doesn't have a good track record with being pleased with our companies.

Your companies?
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: redface on March 25, 2016, 09:59:46 AM
as long as the product arrives within a reasonable amount of time, and is manufactured as ordered, Joe will work with anyone
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: erenes on March 26, 2016, 05:20:29 AM
I have no idea why everyone use old smaller tube for tubless. it works w/o it.
Maybe the problem is most bmx tires are fitting loose on rims so its hard to seal them.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Prodigal Son on March 26, 2016, 03:00:42 PM
as long as the product arrives within a reasonable amount of time, and is manufactured as ordered, Joe will work with anyone

Manufactured as ordered seems the operative word. EG morsecodes and mocking birds.

Good catch on the autocorrect, I ain't shit! Our companies... Ha!
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: 14thStbikes on March 27, 2016, 11:04:22 AM
I'm pretty psyched on this collaboration. Animal and T-1 are probably two of my top three or four favorite BMX companies to support. Animal tires have always treated me well, and I have wanted another slic style tire since the death of the ASM. Hopefully these have the longevity of an Animal tire, with a little less weight( plus T-1 cool points).
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Prodigal Son on March 27, 2016, 04:12:51 PM
Seems like fly would've been the go to. Definitely going to get one (if they ever come out) to replace the Rubens.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: redface on March 27, 2016, 09:36:32 PM
they'll be available next month
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Prodigal Son on March 27, 2016, 09:45:30 PM
Animal's strong return makes me happy.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: nwcstn on March 28, 2016, 06:45:22 AM
Not so much your average tire, it's a dual compound tire with the center strip being a harder compound. And they are 2.4/2.2.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: montymitch on March 28, 2016, 08:00:15 AM
Sidewalls on GLHs are so thick you can almost ride them with no air.

If someone knows of a good tubeless set up tutorial I willing to try it and report back provided it costs no or little money. I have and old hazard lite wheel and old GLH I can use.

Gorilla tape your rim instead of rimtape. Cut a 16" tube down the centre, around the top and stretch it onto your rim. Put your tire on between the flaps of tubes with a bit of sealant. Pump it up, cut off the excess tube hanging out.
That seems like a lot of work for not a lot of payoff. Is the advantage just less weight?
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Stoked on March 28, 2016, 08:07:49 AM
Sidewalls on GLHs are so thick you can almost ride them with no air.

If someone knows of a good tubeless set up tutorial I willing to try it and report back provided it costs no or little money. I have and old hazard lite wheel and old GLH I can use.

Gorilla tape your rim instead of rimtape. Cut a 16" tube down the centre, around the top and stretch it onto your rim. Put your tire on between the flaps of tubes with a bit of sealant. Pump it up, cut off the excess tube hanging out.
That seems like a lot of work for not a lot of payoff. Is the advantage just less weight?

And no flats.  Too much maintenance to be fucked
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Sasha on March 31, 2016, 01:17:10 AM
Sidewalls on GLHs are so thick you can almost ride them with no air.

If someone knows of a good tubeless set up tutorial I willing to try it and report back provided it costs no or little money. I have and old hazard lite wheel and old GLH I can use.

Gorilla tape your rim instead of rimtape. Cut a 16" tube down the centre, around the top and stretch it onto your rim. Put your tire on between the flaps of tubes with a bit of sealant. Pump it up, cut off the excess tube hanging out.
That seems like a lot of work for not a lot of payoff. Is the advantage just less weight?

It's usually heavier doing it this way. You've got added tape, tube and tire sealant. Benefits are that you can't get a pinch flat. Pretty much useless for BMX, great for MTB.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: redface on March 31, 2016, 11:09:55 AM
they'll be available next month

errrrr, i mean the month after next month  :P
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Oddity on March 31, 2016, 09:07:24 PM
they'll be available next month

errrrr, i mean the month after next month  :P
word on sizes?
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: redface on April 01, 2016, 10:11:06 AM
2.20" and 2.40"
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: dude... on April 02, 2016, 12:33:37 AM
do they come in extra squeaky gum compound though?
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: Oddity on April 05, 2016, 09:46:39 AM
booo
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: montymitch on April 08, 2016, 10:41:24 AM
do they come in extra squeaky gum compound though?
Asking the important questions.
Title: Re: new T1/animal tires
Post by: acm on April 14, 2016, 05:00:55 PM
They look nice, hope that they're a reasonable weight.