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Title: GT Bars?
Post by: Kyle V. on February 11, 2016, 08:25:22 PM
Anybody know when those remakes of the classic GT bars are coming out? Wanting a new 4 piece bar but I don't want to get one and have the GT's show up right afterwards.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: cmc4130 on February 11, 2016, 11:08:33 PM
Anybody know when those remakes of the classic GT bars are coming out? Wanting a new 4 piece bar but I don't want to get one and have the GT's show up right afterwards.


http://bmx.transworld.net/features/1000224792/#puxSGIrpAHLjTjhk.97 (http://bmx.transworld.net/features/1000224792/#puxSGIrpAHLjTjhk.97)


.... hmmm  cover of Ride issue #3

(http://www.23mag.com/mags/rus/rus9302.jpg)
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: LeonLikesToRock on February 12, 2016, 12:26:59 AM
#Ben Ward #Bob Scerbo #lols

Why do we get pissy about people ripping off 4 piece bars but we insist that all 2 piece have to more or less look exactly the same?
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: Prodigal Son on February 12, 2016, 09:15:44 AM
Hah! Scerbo didn't do himself any favors when he talked about the dispute with animal and "his" bars.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: Bunky on February 12, 2016, 12:20:39 PM
What was the dispute?  I never saw anything about it.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: RighteousBMX on February 12, 2016, 12:53:21 PM
Sunday have some bars coming out that have the same look.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: Stoked on February 12, 2016, 02:33:51 PM
What was the dispute?  I never saw anything about it.

Look at skapegoat256 instagram post from 5w back.  Photo of Bob bars calling out GT
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: Prodigal Son on February 12, 2016, 07:50:15 PM
Quote from: Scerbo link=http://fuck-nose.tumblr.com/post/98080217797/life-after-bob-bars
$cerbo : The reason the bars got discontinued was that Animal wanted to do the bigger ones and they wanted to use my name on them and I said no, so when they got made I told them they can not do mine anymore, I thought the bars were fine the way they were. Just some bullshit really. I would like to remake them as Skapegoat bars but I don’t really want to go that route and be a bike company because it never seems to work out well for people who choose that. Obviously the politics with me and Animal goes a lot deeper than that but that is the simplest way I can explain it.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: condrbkr on February 14, 2016, 12:04:51 AM
You can't deny that the only reason anyone rocks 4-piece bars today is directly because of Bob. The Bob bars were the only 4-piece bars around for a while and they weren't exactly the coveted item they are today. 4-piece style was dead for about a decade or so until the last few years.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: Prodigal Son on February 14, 2016, 01:28:55 AM
I'll say that the reason people have 4 piece currently isn't because of him. Thankfully most look better than those stupid things, save the T1.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: condrbkr on February 14, 2016, 02:35:30 AM
I'll say that the reason people have 4 piece currently isn't because of him. Thankfully most look better than those stupid things, save the T1.

It's cause this generation of pros grew up on Bob's Animal videos. Honestly I can't think of another pro outside of Ryan Worcester and Marv in Nang that had any non-2 piece bars in that era. 6-piece bars has existed at one point

Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: dude... on February 14, 2016, 07:01:35 PM
run what bars you like.

at least theres options now, at one point almost every single bar was a slam clone 8 high 12 back 1 up
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: tim_sch on February 15, 2016, 06:36:44 AM
I started riding 5 years ago, saw an ad of Björn Elvering doing a handrail with some 4pc bars, I had no idea what they were called. When I found the WTP Everlites only I immediately bought them. Been riding 4pc ever since.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: streetStreet on February 15, 2016, 09:57:33 AM
Went to Asia for some high stakes ping pong, in ding dang. been shitting pancakes ever since.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: cmc4130 on February 16, 2016, 04:05:04 PM
GT also influenced 4 piece bars with the Powerlite bar, which S&M Brian Castillo (and Dave Parrick) rode in BMX Inferno https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgT7RFjVqaE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgT7RFjVqaE), before Brian Castillo got his own bar made.

90's Powerlite 4-piece
(http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/pl_bars_1_blowup.jpg)

another influential 4-pc rider
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh166/adamdawson/P7319800.jpg)
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: Dr. Steve Brule on February 17, 2016, 03:31:11 AM
Powerlites are the best bar ever made.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: cmc4130 on February 17, 2016, 10:14:12 AM
Powerlites are the best bar ever made.

I recall there being some British park shredder who was riding them in the early 00's. Anyone remember who that was?  He was in Props videos, contests, etc.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: Dr. Steve Brule on February 17, 2016, 01:55:44 PM
Could have been Jerry Galley, Scott Malyon, Stuart King or one of those boys, everyone seemed to have them for a while.

Might be thinking of Marv too, those lot I listed above are maybe late 90's.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: condrbkr on February 17, 2016, 05:01:33 PM
https://vimeo.com/24422512 (https://vimeo.com/24422512)

Upped cause he was probably the last person to ride those gash bars.

(http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/pl_bars_1_blowup.jpg)
(http://bmxunion.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/volume-bikes-mad-dog-bmx-bars.jpg)
Kind of close but I imagine it'd be impossible to get the look of the powerlite bars with while retaining today's sizes.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: Spev on February 19, 2016, 04:17:10 PM
Powerlites are the best bar ever made.

I recall there being some British park shredder who was riding them in the early 00's. Anyone remember who that was?  He was in Props videos, contests, etc.

Amos Burke?
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: a.k. on February 20, 2016, 09:02:25 AM
Chris Hardy?
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: montymitch on February 21, 2016, 12:00:29 PM
You guys remember the Powerlite bars that hand the bend in the grip? They felt great.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: Prodigal Son on February 21, 2016, 05:47:43 PM
From memory those seem like much more backsweep than the current outlier.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: weedbix on February 22, 2016, 01:06:18 AM
You can't deny that the only reason anyone rocks 4-piece bars today is directly because of Bob.

I'd be tempted to run a set for a little bit of extra clearance in certain places for flat, if I could get sub-8" ones that were the right shape
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: condrbkr on February 22, 2016, 05:00:25 PM
Some thoughts on 4 piece bars.

http://imeugene.com/post/139801136412/v-a-l-u-e-its-a-weird-thing-what-is-a (http://imeugene.com/post/139801136412/v-a-l-u-e-its-a-weird-thing-what-is-a)

I find it very strange that even flatlanders don't ride sub 8 bars anymore and they like it wide! So bizarre.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: Stoked on February 22, 2016, 05:55:19 PM
Looks like Bob is getting his own bars made?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BCEXL-XR4_I/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BCEXL-XR4_I/)
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: dude... on February 22, 2016, 08:19:09 PM
thats cool. i still couldnt run them unless they were taller though
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: weedbix on February 22, 2016, 11:25:44 PM
Some thoughts on 4 piece bars.

Was that written by you?
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: condrbkr on February 23, 2016, 01:19:30 AM
Some thoughts on 4 piece bars.

Was that written by you?

mhm
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: weedbix on February 23, 2016, 01:55:32 AM
It was a good read dude
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: cmc4130 on February 23, 2016, 09:27:32 AM
Some thoughts on 4 piece bars.

http://imeugene.com/post/139801136412/v-a-l-u-e-its-a-weird-thing-what-is-a (http://imeugene.com/post/139801136412/v-a-l-u-e-its-a-weird-thing-what-is-a)

I find it very strange that even flatlanders don't ride sub 8 bars anymore and they like it wide! So bizarre.

Interesting points.   What do you think is the difference (if any) between "intrinsic value" and "subjective value"? 

I think Sean Burns can also be credited with bringing 4 piece bars back.









Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: condrbkr on February 23, 2016, 02:01:05 PM
It was a good read dude

Thank you!


Interesting points.   What do you think is the difference (if any) between "intrinsic value" and "subjective value"? 


I want to say subjective is based on someone own personal values compared to intrinsic which is something that is widely felt.

Apple has intrinsic value cause of the whole cult they build around their products. Subjective would be more like I like Apple cause it was my first computer. I don't know if there is cutting point from when subjective becomes intrinsic or if it's just an overlap like all rectangles are cubes but not all cubes are rectangles type thing.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: cmc4130 on February 23, 2016, 03:53:58 PM
Could have been Jerry Galley, Scott Malyon, Stuart King or one of those boys, everyone seemed to have them for a while.

Might be thinking of Marv too, those lot I listed above are maybe late 90's.

Yep.

(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh138/upsetbmx/RikeUK-1997-Jerry-Galley-Powerlite-bars_zpsduhphfsc.jpg)
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: weedbix on February 24, 2016, 02:28:14 AM
No foot x-up fuck yeah
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: alaskun on February 24, 2016, 04:02:03 AM
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2eye0x1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/nR4BCld.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/cADGvHE.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/JPI4gQR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/gq44s11.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/eOsTpmk.jpg)

the scerbars feel the closest to regular modern 2piece bars, and I think most of the new giant copies look ridiculous, but I cringe reading the drama stuff and feel like bob should just let it slide and then re-re-re-release 'his own' again in 12 years
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: Kinchy on February 24, 2016, 05:23:09 AM
like all rectangles are cubes but not all cubes are rectangles type thing.

Cubes and rectangles are not the same at all
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: JFax on February 24, 2016, 05:28:00 AM
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2eye0x1.jpg)

Are those the Hoffman bars? Man I would love another kneesaver style bar! Shame the hoffmans are a tad low at 8" (I am very tall).

Might get the Quest bar, not as nice but 9"
(http://flatlandfuel.com/images/products/detail/Bonsai.JPG)
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: alaskun on February 24, 2016, 06:05:51 AM
yeah they're 2015 hoffmans. 

I like those quests... never seen them before. I think george made some that looked kind of like those at one point?  They do look a lot like bars in dmfbmx2, which was the reason I got the hoffmans - because they looked like modern mirra bars, and I figured since they were hoffman they were technically modern pre-mirras...   I feel weird about them now. also, not enough sweep for my liking
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: paranoidmexican on February 24, 2016, 10:52:54 AM
yeah they're 2015 hoffmans. 

I like those quests... never seen them before. I think george made some that looked kind of like those at one point?  They do look a lot like bars in dmfbmx2, which was the reason I got the hoffmans - because they looked like modern mirra bars, and I figured since they were hoffman they were technically modern pre-mirras...   I feel weird about them now. also, not enough sweep for my liking

I'd be happy to take those hoffman bars off your hands...lol
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: condrbkr on February 24, 2016, 02:23:04 PM
like all rectangles are cubes but not all cubes are rectangles type thing.

Cubes and rectangles are not the same at all

haha i meant squares not cubes!

That Tao with the Scerbos, blue Jump Off, and Walls looks BOSS though
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: alaskun on February 24, 2016, 03:43:39 PM
it's actually a quamen g86/bottleopener frame with Standard strip bars and a snafu knobjob + an ody elmsteet

I'd be happy to take those hoffman bars off your hands...lol
check bmxmuseum, you should still be able to pick some up for ~$45
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: cmc4130 on February 24, 2016, 06:24:31 PM

(http://images.ridemonkey.com/index.php?size=full&src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.23mag.com%2Fmags%2Fruk%2Fruk9810.jpg)

http://ridemonkey.bikemag.com/threads/4-pc-is-back.224212/ (http://ridemonkey.bikemag.com/threads/4-pc-is-back.224212/)
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: condrbkr on February 24, 2016, 07:04:44 PM
I remember being excited to hear that Odyssey was gonna make a 4 piece bar but then those 4x4 came out and they are the ugliest 4 piece bars ever made in my opinion.

(http://bmx.transworld.net/files/2011/09/elf_salt_city_bar.jpg)

I think as far as big 4 piece bars go the T1 and Animals look the best. I'm riding the T1 right now and could not be anymore happier.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: Kyle V. on February 24, 2016, 11:34:17 PM
So what's up with the skapegoat bars? I can't find their website, or anything about them really.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: CHROME_RIMS_YO on February 25, 2016, 02:30:23 AM
So what's up with the skapegoat bars? I can't find their website, or anything about them really.

https://themake.wordpress.com/hard-shit/bars/ (https://themake.wordpress.com/hard-shit/bars/)
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: paranoidmexican on February 25, 2016, 11:16:38 AM
I remember being excited to hear that Odyssey was gonna make a 4 piece bar but then those 4x4 came out and they are the ugliest 4 piece bars ever made in my opinion.

really? I thought they looked cool. I have a set of those laying around my apartment.

So what's up with the skapegoat bars? I can't find their website, or anything about them really.

https://themake.wordpress.com/hard-shit/bars/ (https://themake.wordpress.com/hard-shit/bars/)

yeah, but I can't buy them so that link is worthless  :P
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: redface on February 25, 2016, 05:24:53 PM
Skapegoat bars will be available in roughly a month.  we (empire) are taking pre-orders now

www.instagram.com/p/BCEXL-XR4_I/?taken-by=skapegoat256
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: montymitch on February 25, 2016, 05:50:26 PM
That's it. I'm throwing my T1 Elfs back on.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: Kyle V. on February 25, 2016, 07:51:50 PM
Sounds good, I'll keep an eye out on empire.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: GUMP_ on March 04, 2016, 06:57:46 PM
I'd like to get a set of the salt bars.

I wish my back wasn't as rat shit as it is so I could ride bob bars with out feeling like I'm crippled for the next week
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: streetStreet on March 10, 2016, 04:49:08 PM
Volume's arent bad looking.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: paranoidmexican on March 11, 2016, 08:23:19 AM
Volume's arent bad looking.

I can't get into them.....the new hoffman low drags look sweet
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: GUMP_ on March 13, 2016, 04:04:04 PM
Apparently Hoffman doesn't have an Aussie distro so I'll be ordering some low drags through empire when I have some money
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: condrbkr on March 19, 2016, 10:40:48 AM
(http://i0.wp.com/bmxunion.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/deco-bmx-genius-bars-4-piece-black.jpg?w=700)

Paranoid these might be up your alley. Got the small bottom piece like the Odyssey 4x4 and Hoffman Low Drags.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: redface on March 25, 2016, 10:00:16 AM
www.empirebmx.com/skapegoat-handlebar (http://www.empirebmx.com/skapegoat-handlebar)
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: KillSeth on March 25, 2016, 10:55:27 AM
LOL @ <8" rise bars.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: Prodigal Son on March 25, 2016, 01:56:29 PM
Ride the bike, not the bars.
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: alaskun on April 05, 2016, 01:50:49 AM
newer hoffman bars on the front page of empire right now...
(http://i.imgur.com/DMZcCER.png)
Quote
8.75” rise
30” width
6° backsweep
3° upsweep
material: 4130 cromo
made in USA

I got some sort of mongoose from the dump a few weeks ago with big chrome powerbend bars and primo logo grips... psyched.




also, why have I not seen anybody else mention mat breaking his old height record, on a 30ft ramp, in 2015?


(http://i.imgur.com/DZtEi9B.jpg)
Quote
...I started playing around on Big Ramps again. I rode one in March at the Old School get together at Woodward West in Tehachapi, CA. I was pushing 20 feet comfortably and felt I could go higher than I had before. There were a lot of people around and I knew I needed to do this just for myself to get the focus needed. I had been in the ER many times recently, so I second-guessed myself and walked away to prove I could and to give it more consideration. It kept burning bright, so I decided it’s in me and I had to let it come out.

I’ve been riding a lot but also flying wingsuits, which I think has helped me cross train by harnessing aggressive energy better, become one with it and flow, like the big ramp demands. Painting more has helped sharpen my focus too, plus I’m 43 years old (the holy grail of BMX or so we claim), so I decided I was mentally ready to take on the challenge.

Danny Way talked to me earlier in 2015 about designing a ramp to get more air. He wanted to go so high nobody would want to step to it. So he built this ramp (30 feet tall), kept it a secret and was ready to test it out this past May. At the same time, I had committed to push my limits on these big ramps again too, so the timing was perfect… he invited me out for the test ride.

I went out there and had a private session. I set up some unmanned cameras and filmed the whole session(s), which I’ll show later this year. I was able to break my past record. This sketchy pic was one I shot of a camera screen from one of Danny’s friends who captured it at my first session. It’s definitely not print quality but I liked how the style was so much like the original air I did on my original Big Air ramp in 1991, but higher.

It’s now been 25 years since I made a bike I could trust my life with going bigger than ever before. Let my life be an example to never give up, follow your heart and do what you want no matter how many times you’ve been knocked down and people tell you you’re crazy or it’s impossible. Keep getting up and keep your dreams alive. Keep your game true to your heart and push your life’s passions and skills, no matter how ridiculous they may seem to others. Always following your dreams to wherever they lead….

Love Life and make your dreams happen, no matter what! This is what 25 years of Hoffman Bikes is about to me. I was 18 when I set my first high air record. I had to build a bike I could trust my life with to achieve this. Now I’m 43 and I still make a bike that can back my dreams no matter how big they go….

Go Anywhere, Do Anything! Hoffman Bikes 25 years Strong!

Peace, Love, BMX – Let’s have fun in 2016!

-Mat Hoffman
my first 'real' bike was a hoffman george deluxe, george was mat's cat I think?
(http://i.imgur.com/79KGKvU.png)
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: alaskun on April 05, 2016, 02:06:50 PM
I got some sort of mongoose from the dump a few weeks ago with big chrome powerbend bars and primo logo grips... psyched.
28.5 X 9" or so, might be a bit taller/shorter, but it's right about 9. I don't know about using them for tricks and stuff, but just wheeling them around they feel really good.

(http://i.imgur.com/SDFUT5H.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/UK5W1Rq.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/UiTOZtN.jpg)

Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: milhous on April 05, 2016, 03:13:47 PM
Alaskun, please sell me those grips. I sent you a PM as well.

Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: alaskun on April 05, 2016, 03:51:14 PM
I'm having a hard time with the idea that they're actually hard to find now...  I still see them pretty regularly.

I don't really ever sell anything, but you've got dibs on them if I do
Title: Re: GT Bars?
Post by: Louis on May 11, 2016, 12:35:29 PM
Some thoughts on 4 piece bars.

Was that written by you?

mhm

"a Bob" was that on purpose? lol

also, why have I not seen anybody else mention mat breaking his old height record, on a 30ft ramp, in 2015?


(http://i.imgur.com/DZtEi9B.jpg)
Quote
...I started playing around on Big Ramps again. I rode one in March at the Old School get together at Woodward West in Tehachapi, CA. I was pushing 20 feet comfortably and felt I could go higher than I had before. There were a lot of people around and I knew I needed to do this just for myself to get the focus needed. I had been in the ER many times recently, so I second-guessed myself and walked away to prove I could and to give it more consideration. It kept burning bright, so I decided it’s in me and I had to let it come out.

I’ve been riding a lot but also flying wingsuits, which I think has helped me cross train by harnessing aggressive energy better, become one with it and flow, like the big ramp demands. Painting more has helped sharpen my focus too, plus I’m 43 years old (the holy grail of BMX or so we claim), so I decided I was mentally ready to take on the challenge.

Danny Way talked to me earlier in 2015 about designing a ramp to get more air. He wanted to go so high nobody would want to step to it. So he built this ramp (30 feet tall), kept it a secret and was ready to test it out this past May. At the same time, I had committed to push my limits on these big ramps again too, so the timing was perfect… he invited me out for the test ride.

I went out there and had a private session. I set up some unmanned cameras and filmed the whole session(s), which I’ll show later this year. I was able to break my past record. This sketchy pic was one I shot of a camera screen from one of Danny’s friends who captured it at my first session. It’s definitely not print quality but I liked how the style was so much like the original air I did on my original Big Air ramp in 1991, but higher.

It’s now been 25 years since I made a bike I could trust my life with going bigger than ever before. Let my life be an example to never give up, follow your heart and do what you want no matter how many times you’ve been knocked down and people tell you you’re crazy or it’s impossible. Keep getting up and keep your dreams alive. Keep your game true to your heart and push your life’s passions and skills, no matter how ridiculous they may seem to others. Always following your dreams to wherever they lead….

Love Life and make your dreams happen, no matter what! This is what 25 years of Hoffman Bikes is about to me. I was 18 when I set my first high air record. I had to build a bike I could trust my life with to achieve this. Now I’m 43 and I still make a bike that can back my dreams no matter how big they go….

Go Anywhere, Do Anything! Hoffman Bikes 25 years Strong!

Peace, Love, BMX – Let’s have fun in 2016!

-Mat Hoffman

Thanks, been wondering about this