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Title: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: Finn the Human on February 09, 2016, 04:02:30 AM
Just seen this.
(http://s10.postimg.org/eltavdrg5/Screenshot_2016_02_09_09_53_17.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/eltavdrg5/)
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: JFax on February 09, 2016, 04:17:24 AM
That thing is light! Not sure how heavy MTB stems tend to be but compared to a BMX stem its light.

Based on the renderings it looks like a two bolt system, one from the side and one from the side. Could be two different versions but Im am interested to see how it is supposed to work.
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: dude... on February 09, 2016, 06:44:31 AM
im not convinced about the strength of that, looks really thin where it hooks around the bars and steerer
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: Mike Reimer(derangedbiker) on February 09, 2016, 02:03:54 PM
Wow. 3 oz. I say its fair game to rip it off as odyssey no longer makes it.
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: KillSeth on February 09, 2016, 03:52:00 PM
Wow. 3 oz. I say its fair game to rip it off as odyssey no longer makes it.

I don't think that's how patents work...
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: Mychaylo on February 09, 2016, 04:26:01 PM
Looks like a patent issue to me.
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: Mike Reimer(derangedbiker) on February 09, 2016, 06:40:16 PM
Wow. 3 oz. I say its fair game to rip it off as odyssey no longer makes it.

I don't think that's how patents work...
There's been interviews with Odyssey people where they've said they usually let it slide, unless they feel really strongly about it. We'll see I guess.
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: streetStreet on February 10, 2016, 12:17:57 AM
Don't worry guys I got this.
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: Zoidberg on February 10, 2016, 06:13:30 AM
I've been tempted so many times to do an oddy rip off thread as it happens so often but always realise I have better things to do, like fapping to Donald trumps campaign speeches for example.

So I'll just say éclat.
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: Spev on February 11, 2016, 04:10:27 PM
That thing is light! Not sure how heavy MTB stems tend to be but compared to a BMX stem its light.

Based on the renderings it looks like a two bolt system, one from the side and one from the side. Could be two different versions but Im am interested to see how it is supposed to work.

I can only see one bolt in the renders.
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: locomotive on February 11, 2016, 06:41:45 PM
That thing is light! Not sure how heavy MTB stems tend to be but compared to a BMX stem its light.

Based on the renderings it looks like a two bolt system, one from the side and one from the side. Could be two different versions but Im am interested to see how it is supposed to work.

I can only see one bolt in the renders.

yeah it's totally one. Plus they even put the "ONE bolt" description in caps
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: torontoflatlander on February 11, 2016, 08:15:13 PM
That thing is light! Not sure how heavy MTB stems tend to be but compared to a BMX stem its light.

Based on the renderings it looks like a two bolt system, one from the side and one from the side. Could be two different versions but Im am interested to see how it is supposed to work.

I can only see one bolt in the renders.

yeah it's totally one. Plus they even put the "ONE bolt" description in caps

God damn it JFax, get it right bud.
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: Owen on February 13, 2016, 09:04:39 AM
Wow. 3 oz. I say its fair game to rip it off as odyssey no longer makes it.

Yeah?  When did they stop making them?  Seems a shame, considering the innovation and work that went into it.
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: JFax on February 16, 2016, 03:51:56 AM
God damn it JFax, get it right bud.

:(

But then what is the thing on the bottom side of the stem? It looks like a bolt to me! Looks like one on the side and one on the bottom. Maybe they just hadnt decided where to put the bolt.
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: Flexer on February 16, 2016, 05:50:26 AM
God damn it JFax, get it right bud.

:(

But then what is the thing on the bottom side of the stem? It looks like a bolt to me! Looks like one on the side and one on the bottom. Maybe they just hadnt decided where to put the bolt.

are you talking about the picture on the right side? that is a sideshot in fact and the flipped the stem (confused me at first-sight) - the stem seems to be pretty slim

it's a shame they dropped the elementary after doing like (what?) 3 different versions.
one thing that bugged me about it, was that you had to align your bars again every time you took the stem off the fork =/

i have one of the v1 sitting on my desk - rode it for a looong time, but it didnt clamp the bars perfectly anymore after all these years...
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: JFax on February 16, 2016, 08:35:44 AM
are you talking about the picture on the right side? that is a sideshot in fact and the flipped the stem (confused me at first-sight) - the stem seems to be pretty slim

Ooooooh, now I see it. Sorry everyone.

I had the elementary since I thought it was a cool design. It chrushed my bars though and, as you said, that you had to realign your bars after taking your fork off was annoying (I travelled with my bike almost every weekend then).
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: Sasper on February 16, 2016, 12:55:32 PM
I have a brand new elementary v3 with Bluesix Ti bolt ( the first ti bolt he got/made actually ) for elementary, he asked it back from his friend who didnt use it anymore and sold it to me. It will go on my mostly ti bike in the future.
it really is a great design, too bad the bars crush if overtightened and also that some people need to take bars off alot.
the v1 I had slowly became green from the sun ( some anodizing issue ) , I used it for 4-5 years I guess, I still have it but I can see micro cracks in the bottom of it.
Title: Re: Odyssey Elementary Rip Off
Post by: weedbix on February 17, 2016, 03:10:22 AM
So blatant

Never ran an Elementary (or a Lincoln) myself but I totally would. Pinch bolts aren't ideal