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The Street => The Lounge => Topic started by: Prodigal Son on January 08, 2016, 11:34:30 PM
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Have you guys watched this series on netflix? Holy shit, I can't believe how fucking weird this shit is.
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'Murica, I don't think i've ever facepalmed so much watching tv.
Half way through, but from what I gather hes still inside and has basically run out of options/appeals until new evidence pops up? This series and all the new exposure must do something though? Incredible stuff.
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yeah he's fucked, there is evidence that was missed out in the series and he is pinning it on his brothers. regardless of guilt or not, it doesn't paint a great picture of wisconsin law enforcement.
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They certainly did an excellent piece displaying that their PD and court is on some other game. Some of it just blows my mind as an outsider. The police questioning is fucked to retrospectively think about the times I was detained and just laugh. A writer would have a hard time coming up with this sort of absurdity.
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watching it now with the wife, what the fuck
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So what do we think actually happened? Who killed her and if not the police, at what point did they get involved? How sure are we of Stevens guilt or innocence in percentage terms?
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Her brother and ex boyfriend seemed sketchy as hell. Deleting her VM messages
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Should I watch this?
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I don't think Steven did it, not sure who did. I agree that the victims brother seems sketchy. His initial statements in the news when she first went missing seemed off/oddly worded...
Better question is- is that slime ball defense attorney Len Kachinsky related to Brian Kachinsky. I
May be wrong, but they seem to have a resemblance along with sane last name and both in/from Wissconsin.
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How did they convict brenden to mutilating the body? the kid was border line incompetent
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"I'm going to miss Wrestle Mania!" - Brendan
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it's really fucked up what happened to brendan. forced into making up a story that has no evidence to back it up, then that used as the basis for everything.
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I definitely think brendan was innocent, the lads clearly as autistic as they come and was bullied all over the place, Steven..... Id say 67.5% convinced of his innocence, hes lived a hard life and I wouldn't be surprised if he was a bit more mentally scarred than we're led to believe, there are some sketchy details here and there too.
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I don't think Steven did it, not sure who did. I agree that the victims brother seems sketchy. His initial statements in the news when she first went missing seemed off/oddly worded...
Better question is- is that slim ball defense attorney Len Kachinsky related to Brian Kachinsky. I
May be wrong, but they seem to have a resemblance along with sane last name and both in/from Wissconsin.
From what I've been told, Len Kachinsky is Brian Kachinsky Dad, fucking crazy!
The show really just made me realize how much more i hate the pigs!
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I don't think Steven did it, not sure who did. I agree that the victims brother seems sketchy. His initial statements in the news when she first went missing seemed off/oddly worded...
Better question is- is that slim ball defense attorney Len Kachinsky related to Brian Kachinsky. I
May be wrong, but they seem to have a resemblance along with sane last name and both in/from Wissconsin.
From what I've been told, Len Kachinsky is Brian Kachinsky Dad, fucking crazy!
The show really just made me realize how much more i hate the pigs!
Just did some investigative work.
Len and Brian are friends on Facebook, you could be right.
edit: Looks like it's definitely the case, bizarre - https://www.instagram.com/p/985DeTNUwh/
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Wow
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Well he turned out ok despite having a schmuck for a dad.
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I definitely think brendan was innocent, the lads clearly as autistic as they come and was bullied all over the place, Steven..... Id say 67.5% convinced of his innocence, hes lived a hard life and I wouldn't be surprised if he was a bit more mentally scarred than we're led to believe, there are some sketchy details here and there too.
My thoughts exactly. Some of the letters to his ex-wife were a bit loopy to say the least. Whole programme was completely mental though - has anyone seen The Jinx? Almost like the reverse situation in every way (rich guy seemingly manages to get away with it).
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That is wild BK is that guy's kid! Fine investigatory work sir.
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. . . Id say 67.5% convinced of his innocence, . .
That's interesting that you use a percentage. I think of it that way also.
Many people do not understand what "Beyond a Reasonable Doubt" means. Some people think it means 100% certainty. It doesn't. Courts leave it deliberately vague, and do not say what percentage of certainty constitutes "beyond a reasonable doubt" or said another way, what percentage of doubt a person has is "reasonable." One person might think it means 75%, while another think it means 90%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_doubt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_doubt) People seem to change their idea of "reasonable doubt" depending on the severity of the crime or punishment. If the defendant can be sent to death row, a lot of jurors will think there needs to be more certainty. This is why sometimes you have bifurcated trials where one jury decides only guilty/not-guilty (and are not given hints at punishment levels) and another jury decides punishment.
In civil trials (for money damages), the standard of proof is "preponderance of the evidence." This means "more likely than not" which essentially means 51% proof of someone's liability.
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This is interesting, and i recall in a case (cant remember which) it was said to the jury that it should be obvious what "reasonable doubt" is. It is a doubt which is not unreasonable. I don't think there is a percentage you can put on it, which is why the courts have done their best to avoid it.