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The Street => The Bike Shop => Topic started by: JFax on September 15, 2015, 09:03:26 AM
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So it is the time of year again. Eurobike has already been as so far I havent really seen any good reports part from a post on Fatbmx that there wasnt really any BMX to be found. KHE seem to have been there though with a new line, so I guess they didnt go under after all.
Interbike is happening this week though, so lets post and comment here.
Anything you guys are looking forward to seeing? Personally I would like to see some new and good/wacky ideas. Not so much for subtle changes to existing products or new products resembling others.
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only thing ive seen that seems remotely rad is them new BSD barends ahhaha
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I fail to see the point of those though. I thought the purpose of riding plastic bar ends was to avoid getting sharp metal bits sticking out that would "stab" you if you fell on them. The metal piece here is designed to protect the plastic piece and as such will function like a normal metal bar end.
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from actually lodging into the handlebar itself.
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colony's flatland stuff looks good
I'd like to see more flatland friendly stuff. and hoping odyssey goes back to having cool stuff (elementary stem/director forks, ect) instead of turning into run of the mill street stuff.
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interested to see the eclat freecoaster purely because it's quite quick after the apparently terrible and much hyped blind
did think the bsd barends where quite interesting but i think jfax has put me off them
speaking of bsd, do they still do jersey barriers for the marmoset? or would the simian ones fit the marmoset?
anything oddy
anything t1
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colony's flatland stuff looks good
I'd like to see more flatland friendly stuff. and hoping odyssey goes back to having cool stuff (elementary stem/director forks, ect) instead of turning into run of the mill street stuff.
didn't the elementary and directors have a habit of cracking? get over it!
mind you shame about the directors as i do think they looked quite funky
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plastic bar ends on their own could break off into your bars
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plastic bar ends on their own could break off into your bars
but surely that's just a substitute cost? occaisionally, if ever, having to replace very cheap plastic ones (which comes with grips anyway so it's very likely you have spares) or putting up with sharp edges or having to be filing them down every so often
also i would like to see bars with smaller boxes from interbike
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no bar ends is the way to go, you either ride or you die.
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I dont think we have much to show. Interbike isnt really that important any more.
Eclat and BSD both have new freecoasters with unique new drag mechanisms so that will be interesting to see...
BSD have a new rim which you cant really see in the photo yet...
Post links to save me time..
:)
G.
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i would like to see more detail on the new fly frame...
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I hope someone does a good job of filming and editing the rail comp.
With all the new products/completes going online over the past 2 weeks I doubt anything really ground breaking would have been held back.
G, I'd love to see Directors come back. Still love my V1's as they never hang up on grinds.
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The idea of director forks are great, but, its a sin how ugly they are (I own a pair) and maybe there is a way to a happy medium?
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Different offset might make them not look bent.
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straight fork with pressed tubing at the bottom or something. Thats what I think when fixing the look of directors.
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There are flatland forks thats like half directors, they bend halfway down the leg, weird.
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New shadow jcpc. I guess the metal core makes it unique. E13 did this year's ago.
http://bmxunion.com/blog/interbike-2015-the-shadow-conspiracy (http://bmxunion.com/blog/interbike-2015-the-shadow-conspiracy)
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4337_zps9ibo8dtt.jpg)
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plastic pins can still fuck your shins up, i dont know why people are still praising that shit
mutant bikes have a nylon brake cable in the works
http://bmxunion.com/blog/interbike-2015-mutant-bikes/ (http://bmxunion.com/blog/interbike-2015-mutant-bikes/)
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4553_zps1onklzxj.jpg)
and the stupid 2pc cranks that join in the middle of the spindle design rears its ugly head yet again
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4545_zpsdyaazhzt.jpg)
stolen have tie die pedals-the new oil slick/camo wrap?
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4524_zpsrl7c1jcu.jpg)
fly spacer that goes under your lower bearing in your headset to slacken the geo of your frame-pretty sure a flat company (ares maybe?) did this around 10 years ago
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4465_zpsjslohgbv.jpg)
new bits for the subrosa street rail, now you can be a street rider without the need to ever actually leave your drive to learn all the latest cool flatbar stunts
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4282_zpsdmkh3sty.jpg)
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4283_zpsqnantqbj.jpg)
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4284_zpskammj8fn.jpg)
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4285_zpsndkait39.jpg)
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4286_zpsqe8rgukk.jpg)
boring as fuck interbike this year, more horrible tyre and parts colourways/wraps, trying to be the next big kiddie fad
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Pretty depressing if this is all Interbike has to offer.
Any news of the next Ratchet hub?
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Death of the Spanish BB.
Although I don't really like Fly as a brand, they always have a nice booth.
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I see more frames with taller headtubes which I like.
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fly spacer that goes under your lower bearing in your headset to slacken the geo of your frame-pretty sure a flat company (ares maybe?) did this around 10 years ago
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4465_zpsjslohgbv.jpg)
Surely you can't just change headtube angle by adding an angled spacer to the lower race? If you change the angle with which the fork goes through the frame, the fork won't sit inside the top bearing correctly and force the bearing to follow the angle of the fork over the angle of the headtube. You're basically making the fork steerer run inside the headtube at an unparalleled angle.
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the spacer isnt angled, it just lifts the bottom bearing up a bit which means the headtube of the frame sits a bit higher up the fork steerer. the headtube angle thus becomes slightly slacker as a result, but it also affects the bb height of the frame and seattube angle
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the spacer isnt angled, it just lifts the bottom bearing up a bit which means the headtube of the frame sits a bit higher up the fork steerer. the headtube angle thus becomes slightly slacker as a result, but it also affects the bb height of the frame and seattube angle
Ok got it. I was thinking they were trying to do a cheap Angleset headset.
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Is this something that riders woud want though, seems like a solution for a non-existing problem.
On another note, what would this do to the strength of the fork. I can kinda see that the stress would be lifted to further up the steering tube, right? Will this make it stronger or weaker?
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It wont do anything since I've done this before not because I wanted a slackier head angle but because I didn't have a spacer for my headset so the steering tube liked out the top slightly from my stem.
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This looks cool http://www.fatbmx.com/bmx/news/article.php?storyid=36232
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This looks cool http://www.fatbmx.com/bmx/news/article.php?storyid=36232
Rad.
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Pretty stoked on this :
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4354_zpsqxfsoh24.jpg)
Deeper set pivotal guts.
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So it makes your seat higher without more seatpost? Am I getting that correctly?
E: Ok, I got it, it's for hiding the pivotal system under the seat.
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Anyone know the geometry on the Fly Geo frame?
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Anyone know the geometry on the Fly Geo frame?
Here you go:
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4432_zpsxgdzgpbi.jpg)
I like that it comes in 21.3".
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Any newcomers to 22" ?
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bar-ends from BSD look like a re-iteration of the Merrit Bar Ends (http://www.albes.com/merritt-insert-bar-ends/). Call me a neigh sayer, but I think bar ends are about as good as they are going to get, you either choose metal or plastic and be done with it.
Eclat bolt on nylon bash-guard, kinda interesting.
Kink are working on a detangeler which uses bushings instead of bearings, again a problem which I don't think needs solving. Just seems to be allot of new colours and more shit in oil slick generally (this being said I am digging WTP's copper colour-way)
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This looks cool http://www.fatbmx.com/bmx/news/article.php?storyid=36232
internal cable routing in the fork for the front brake, thats actually a great idea, especially with todays fat tyres. fatter tripod seat as well. details like the brakes and levers are cool too
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eclats plastic mds style guard, shame for odyssey that theyre always like 5 years ahead of whats cool with their designs
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4742_zps0oqkggro.jpg)
eclat tyre looks a bit like an animal glh
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4746_zpssaso55lt.jpg)
new coaster thats apperently different from khe style
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4747_zpsafzwhgtn.jpg)
update to the blind coaster (people were discussing it in another thread) now has individual springs on each pawl (similar to zcoaster? not sure)
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4751_zpsb3gylohj.jpg)
stems with knurling/lines on the inside to improve grip-good idea? or will it just get flattened off straight away cos aluminium is soft? would have thought that if this did work well, someone else would have thought of it before now (besides ron wilkerson, but his system was mehh)
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4755_zps6n8vknf6.jpg)
uniguard patent infringement guard (not really)
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4769_zpsxrn5fppz.jpg)
break off some wax, drop it in the helpfully labelled "session bag" and youre off. maybe im showing my age but bmx doesnt seem as cool as it once did. got your packed lunch? got your session wax? ok now make sure youve rotated the plastic sleeves on your pegs and try not to engage your coaster when doing fakies
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4780_zpsljaztksp.jpg)
qlite hub system is still going, bg rejoice
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4806_zpsx8pnmebb.jpg)
25.4mm clamping area bars um....
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4831_zpszerjhvga.jpg)
salt chainbreaker looks identical to the shadow one (should be cheaper. decent chain tool)
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4886_zpsnxspafba.jpg)
wtp/eclat/salt make so much stuff! not into a lot of it but i guess with the amount of product theyre putting out they can afford to take risks and try new stuff
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oh look, people are still cloning the eject/simple flangeless hubs, bless
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4728_zpswn1bsj2g.jpg)
eeeewwwwwwwwwww. tyres that only paranoid mexican could love (sorry adam)
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4913_zpsdiyap2w2.jpg)
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4915_zpsapzkebrb.jpg)
"the next cultxvans tyre with the checker pattern. looks so good" - no it doesnt, it looks shit
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4931_zpsshdwzwhy.jpg)
honestly im kind of impressed though, cult has managed to far outdo aaron ross in terms of disgusting tyre colours, yet still sell them because cultshit/marketing/kids are dumb
haro dmc freestyler again, pretty cool, with attention to details, not just grabbing for retro collector dads pensions
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4936_zpsthxm63go.jpg)
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4938_zps66doddb8.jpg)
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4939_zpsbjci7eex.jpg)
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4940_zpspmsgnbhx.jpg)
haro totally cashing in on the whole retro "we used to be a good brand in the 80s" thing
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4968_zpsxo4y4cp4.jpg)
deluxe are still going for all you trails dawgsss, apparently bought out by kris bennet and some others last year
nasty looking headtube on their frames
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_4992_zpsjvi7w9pk.jpg)
they still make their pedals though, and the chunky shovelhand grips-i know theres a few people on here who are partial to them
if i had been considering buying this frame, the most awkward blurb ever just put me off
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5015_zpstirinkvf.jpg)
i expect aliceglass already has one hashtagLAG
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5023_zps0dzims7s.jpg)
with dad pun-esque wordplay like that, maybe i could get behind your marketing blurb writing department after all FITBIKECO
should probably post some part pics instead of labels anyway
oh no not this again. i guess total are still making money off these sort of whip jockey nitro circus frames, so S&M might as well get in on it too
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5039_zpsg6sipsbi.jpg)
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5043_zpswar5y27f.jpg)
comes in nasty bright obnoxious colours like totals do too!
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5054_zpsugj8or5l.jpg)
SHredneck stem...looks like a less cheap clone of fiends clone of solids stem if it reproduced with a jumpoff
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5046_zpsmawbavne.jpg)
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5048_zpsbnacsnxs.jpg)
very long stealth pivitol post. while i have no need for this right now, its always nice to know theres options out there for really long seatposts just in case
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5052_zps2envcwwu.jpg)
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splattering your bike with neon alien jizz yourself is one thing, but buying parts already pre-jizzed like that? ehhhh
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/bmxunion031/IMG_5139_zpsnxuewy6f.jpg)
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/bmxunion031/IMG_5137_zps4zursppf.jpg)
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/bmxunion031/IMG_5138_zpsackgiei1.jpg)
i like how this sprocket looks
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/bmxunion031/IMG_5091_zps090ofzsy.jpg)
i also think this is a good idea. never used one though so dunno if its any good or if its shit
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/bmxunion031/IMG_5133_zpsrxfvlozy.jpg)
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The 4pc odyssey bars that don't look stupid are pretty cool.
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The dmc green haro bike is the best thing at interbike right now. The cult tires would be cool if they weren't 2.stupid sizes.
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Any decent tires that aren't gimmicky and come in 2.1"?
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New s and m stuff looks good éclat WTP also solid. I like the idea of their bars. 21.3 frame is nice
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The 4pc odyssey bars that don't look stupid are pretty cool.
pic? no odyssey writeup on the union yet, thats where im pulling the pics and shit from
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Fuckin companies getting suites. No animal?
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No cringeworthy videos out yet?
'Im here on at interbike on the meatco stand, tell me about the new team frame?'
'Yeah fully dialed, developed by the team who're super stooaked, super awesuurrm geometry, available in splatter, rasta, oilslick, super liiiiight, super fuuuurrrn...'
'It says here its made from 100% real meatco graphene, but it seems to be going rusty already, can you tell us more about this?'
'Yeah no, super liiiiighhhht super furn, we're just sooo stoked on the new colourwaaays, fully compatible with the new roller peg system, super sweet super gnar super funnn.... yeah'
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Fuckin companies getting suites. No animal?
I thought Animal was done but this popped up and it's part one dealing with Animals "past". I guess part 2 is "present". looking forward the rest but hope part 3 "future" won't be Ralph saying "We're done".
http://www.epictv.com/media/podcast/past-present-and-future-part-1-%7C-animal-bikes/603365
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No cringeworthy videos out yet?
VitalBMX.com for your daily cringeworthy content.
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No cringeworthy videos out yet?
'Im here on at interbike on the meatco stand, tell me about the new team frame?'
'Yeah fully dialed, developed by the team who're super stooaked, super awesuurrm geometry, available in splatter, rasta, oilslick, super liiiiight, super fuuuurrrn...'
'It says here its made from 100% real meatco graphene, but it seems to be going rusty already, can you tell us more about this?'
'Yeah no, super liiiiighhhht super furn, we're just sooo stoked on the new colourwaaays, fully compatible with the new roller peg system, super sweet super gnar super funnn.... yeah'
ahahah
yeah nah so we just wanted something real simple y'know? no gimmicks, straight forward, straight out of the same factory as mirraco and all those other generic frames, the teams real stoked on it so were gonna run with it yeahhhhh. got some sweet new graphics for this year, kewl
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stems with knurling/lines on the inside to improve grip-good idea? or will it just get flattened off straight away cos aluminium is soft? would have thought that if this did work well, someone else would have thought of it before now (besides ron wilkerson, but his system was mehh)
I used to put groves into my stems as a 14 year old cause my bars used to slip like crazy, so this probably works. Not sure if its needed though in todays world.
25.4mm clamping area bars um....
Lame! I hoped for full on 25.4mm tubing bars... I miss my old KHE 1" bars, loved them!
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I bet those Deluxe headtubes are a nightmare to mitre the top and downtubes for. Saying that, I imagine the factory has some £1million machine that does it perfect each time.
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The 4pc odyssey bars that don't look stupid are pretty cool.
pic? no odyssey writeup on the union yet, thats where im pulling the pics and shit from
(http://p.vitalbmx.com/photos/forums/2015/09/18/43958/s1200_wp_ss_20150918_0001.jpg)
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I think it is funny that the company family of Salt, WTP and Eclat singlehandingly flood the freecoaster market.
Not only does each company have one coasterversion, now Eclat has two, with one being a competitor to the WTP one?
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S&M's shredneck stem does not even look like a solid stem, the Fiend stem is pretty much the only one that does.
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Seat actually looks sweet and Pauly Pirate rules, but so many sitting on bear faces, bear/cub jokes to be made.
(http://i.imgur.com/osiN0xRl.jpg)
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Dunno if I should be stoked for odyssey or talk shit for how terrible that grizzly looks.
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(http://p.vitalbmx.com/photos/forums/2015/09/18/43958/s1200_wp_ss_20150918_0001.jpg)
I hear it only has 1.5 degree upsweep. Bummed. To be fair, this info was from some rando on the grams.
Why hasn't any company dropped the 4peace bars yet? rastafari jah feel or whatever.
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After checking out some Interbike coverage, it looks like a lot of frames are moving to 13.2-13.5 chainstays. Bikes like the Fly Fuego, Kink Solace, Cult Dak, etc. Not that this is anything new, but I thought it was interesting since a lot of those guys mentioned in the past how they liked longer rear ends.
A few years ago I really liked 13.5" , but with bars being bigger now I actually dont mind something longer.
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profile blackjack sprocket is coming back in 28t
also, the interbike videos on vital suck
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profile blackjack sprocket is coming back in 28t
also, the interbike videos on vital suck
25t only shamefully :(
also the new sunday 4 piece bars LOOK nice but are crazy big :(
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9x29 12 back 1.5up on the odyssey 49ers
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shape looks a little bit like scerbos but obviously the crossbar and grip area isnt 1 piece. not sure i like the look or not, probs not. y no specs for the sunday bars?
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5207_zpszmt1llvr.jpg)
sunday coaster, more affordable version of the clutch minus the externally adjustable slack. interested to see what clutch features it retains, and how much itll be
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5210_zpsntogv2wx.jpg)
odyssey 4pc. someone make a 4pc with a smaller box but still tall plz
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5229_zpsrvoguzy0.jpg)
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5230_zpsxtui4qw5.jpg)
dugan peds, colourway looks like the old purple they did the trailmixes in. i liked that colourway
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5244_zps6nwqkl1i.jpg)
bsd moar tyr culurz
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5191_zpsoaceycjl.jpg)
styranger matte oil slick lulz
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5150_zpsiodr8qat.jpg)
actually looks nicer than normal oil slick i reckon (on the hubs anyway), toned down a bit
this is interesting, like a phoenix from the ashes, 14mm forks and hub from primo!
(http://i1.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5174_zpsftgbuct8.jpg)
i know a few people still running 14mm front ends cos theyre thrashers, but the supply of odyssey dirt forks is dwindling as all the dropouts get cracked. i think theres still a market for 14mm fronts, especially now everyones so street with many pegs. just need some companys that make good forks and front hubs to follow suit
eeeewwwww
(http://i2.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5171_zpsqntfban6.jpg)
plastic tenderisers
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5177_zpscp8ct9zd.jpg)
they look better than the other tenderiser remake they did a bit ago, make these in metal primo
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4pc bars should have a box proportionate the the size but that's just my opinion. Nothing like trying to keep a narrow box with a tall height and the bars end up looking like squares. I like the odyssey bars because they don't look weird the screbo looking ones should have a little bit wider of a box since they're probably like 9+tall
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Sunday 4pc look like t1 elf bars
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Not sure those 14mm Primo female front hubs are needed. Have read many times before that the modern day 3/8" female axle of today is much stronger than the 14mm male axle of yesteryear. Are people bending 3/8" female rear axles even?
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Sunday 4pc look like t1 elf bars
That's what I'm thinking--the clamp bar looks like the only difference. I wonder if they are supposed to be an homage to the old Haro Kneesavers like the Elf bars.
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yeh nah
(http://www.terribleone.com/t1/images/newspics/sept1st11/elf_salt_city_bar.jpg)
(http://i0.wp.com/i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd263/bmxunion/Interbike%202015/IMG_5207_zpszmt1llvr.jpg)
different bottom section (sundays are like scerbos, and elfs are like bonedeths), also the elfs are lower
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Not sure those 14mm Primo female front hubs are needed. Have read many times before that the modern day 3/8" female axle of today is much stronger than the 14mm male axle of yesteryear. Are people bending 3/8" female rear axles even?
some people do need em, most probably dont. bolts still break even if axles dont
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I would imagine companies have the sources to produce decent 14mm fronts with the female bolts. Now to convince teenagers that they need them hahaha. Seriously hate kids these days. If I have another kid asking if I have 10's ir 11's for sale and they're shorter than me I'm gonna stab them.
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I want some 14mm with brake mounts.
Was expecting a bit of a front brake resurgence.
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Enjoying the moaning in here. I wouldn't say no to another pair of Shovelhand grips.
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Why hasn't any company dropped the 4peace bars yet? rastafari jah feel or whatever.
Subrosa did. http://sparkysdistribution.com/subrosa-4-peace-noster-bars.html
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No mention of fly switching to mid come on guys
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I the end of Spanish??? Noooooo! Now my bikes will be an oz heavier :( :( :(
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T least you'll be able to run everyone's cranks. And buy bearings off the shelf for some of them
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I want some 14mm with brake mounts.
Was expecting a bit of a front brake resurgence.
as nice as this would be , its just missing the extra few spokes to make it a 48
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Subrosa did. http://sparkysdistribution.com/subrosa-4-peace-noster-bars.html
Damn, I slept on this. Good catch! Though it looks like a typo because it's so close. Maybe the v2 could be the 4peas bars if palmere ever leaves fiend.
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Pretty uneventful like the last few years. I think the most interesting goes to Shadow for their new plastic pedals but even that is kind of meh. Find cordouroy seat and Merritt upload stem are both kind of itchin on me though.
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Also the WTP stem with little notches cut out. Wouldn't that be more prone to slippage cause its less surface area?
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Also the WTP stem with little notches cut out. Wouldn't that be more prone to slippage cause its less surface area?
No, its supposed to grip better, and I think it will. Problem is if it grips too good. Its kind of a failsafe to make the bars move instead of getting brutal force into your wrists. But I guess with the taller bars trend the leverage on the stem is increasing, so it might not make the impact force on your wrist.
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Pretty uneventful like the last few years.
What is there to be eventful? BMX technology has economically peaked, there isn't really much point in spending money developing new technologies when the vast proportion of money coming in is based on trends. New colourways have a higher profit margin.
It baffles me that brands even bother attending these events.
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Pretty uneventful like the last few years.
What is there to be eventful? BMX technology has economically peaked, there isn't really much point in spending money developing new technologies when the vast proportion of money coming in is based on trends. New colourways have a higher profit margin.
It baffles me that brands even bother attending these events.
Maybe it's to market their new trendy product or color-ways. Plus it does not look good on the companies image to not attend. For example Animal this year.
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Subrosa did. http://sparkysdistribution.com/subrosa-4-peace-noster-bars.html
Damn, I slept on this. Good catch! Though it looks like a typo because it's so close. Maybe the v2 could be the 4peas bars if palmere ever leaves fiend.
Nice one, haha!
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Fuckin companies getting suites. No animal?
I thought Animal was done but this popped up and it's part one dealing with Animals "past". I guess part 2 is "present". looking forward the rest but hope part 3 "future" won't be Ralph saying "We're done".
http://www.epictv.com/media/podcast/past-present-and-future-part-1-%7C-animal-bikes/603365
While your part 1,2,3 for past, present and future makes perfect sense, There are only 2 parts. Part 2 is suppose to come out next tuesday or wednesday From what I was told by Epic, and I'll give you a spoiler: It does not end with Ralph saying that they are done.
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Fuckin companies getting suites. No animal?
I thought Animal was done but this popped up and it's part one dealing with Animals "past". I guess part 2 is "present". looking forward the rest but hope part 3 "future" won't be Ralph saying "We're done".
http://www.epictv.com/media/podcast/past-present-and-future-part-1-%7C-animal-bikes/603365
While your part 1,2,3 for past, present and future makes perfect sense, There are only 2 parts. Part 2 is suppose to come out next tuesday or wednesday From what I was told by Epic, and I'll give you a spoiler: It does not end with Ralph saying that they are done.
This makes my day.
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For those talking about Animal. This is what Dehart posted on instagram
https://instagram.com/p/7Lnco7ggVE/
Animal is coming back again?!
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It baffles me that brands even bother attending these events.
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From a consumers perspective, Interbike may seem boring if there is not a ton of new, progressive stuff.....but from a brands perspective, its a great opportunity to connect with shops that are generally outside the BMX market and tell the story of why it's important to support BMX in store. While some brands are chilling in suites talking to dealers they already know, some are on the floor preaching the good word of BMX and making moves. Interbike is a reflection of current trends and if no one represented BMX at the show how do you think the average shop would perceive the BMX market? Sitting in a suite getting loose?
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Disappointed I didn't see any new T1 stuff.
It's good seeing that most frames coming out have at least a 9" standover and some even taller.
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Off topic but how short do the cut lines go on the t-1 bars?
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http://bmxunion.com/daily/sneak-peek-animal-bikes-new-tire/ (http://bmxunion.com/daily/sneak-peek-animal-bikes-new-tire/)
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New animal stuff in a month or so?? Gotta get the money ready.
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T least you'll be able to run everyone's cranks. And buy bearings off the shelf for some of them
Technically speaking you still won't be able to get off the shelf bearings for 22mm mid. They are generally only common now in the bike industry. That was the whole benefit of Spanish BB's, the 37mm outer diameter was available off the shelf in many inner diameter options to suit the numerous spindle diameters of the day (excluding 15/16" as it wasn't around).
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T least you'll be able to run everyone's cranks. And buy bearings off the shelf for some of them
Technically speaking you still won't be able to get off the shelf bearings for 22mm mid. They are generally only common now in the bike industry. That was the whole benefit of Spanish BB's, the 37mm outer diameter was available off the shelf in many inner diameter options to suit the numerous spindle diameters of the day (excluding 15/16" as it wasn't around).
How often does one even buy off the shelf though? I have always ordered from a bike shop.
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Damn, is it just me or do all the Fly frames look the same(generic) now besides the external gussets. For Fly I'm a little disappointed they used to have really stylish designs, now it's the complete opposite, generic looking, I do however like the new crank design.
Edit: Oh and interbike this year is boring as heck nothing really new or exciting tbh..
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Exercising some relieved sigh about animal. I was ready to move on from Ruben tires anyways.
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Off topic but how short do the cut lines go on the t-1 bars?
They look like a 1/4" to me so 2 inches total if they are 1/4".
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T least you'll be able to run everyone's cranks. And buy bearings off the shelf for some of them
Technically speaking you still won't be able to get off the shelf bearings for 22mm mid. They are generally only common now in the bike industry. That was the whole benefit of Spanish BB's, the 37mm outer diameter was available off the shelf in many inner diameter options to suit the numerous spindle diameters of the day (excluding 15/16" as it wasn't around).
No.
Mid has ONE standard size, 3/4" (so fit normal Profiles etc).
Spanish had ONE standard size 20mm (so fit nothing except some cheap OEM cranks)
However, Spanish was always just that bit too small.
:)
G.
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yay! i remembered my password. word on the streets is that the new Animal tire is incredible
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T least you'll be able to run everyone's cranks. And buy bearings off the shelf for some of them
Technically speaking you still won't be able to get off the shelf bearings for 22mm mid. They are generally only common now in the bike industry. That was the whole benefit of Spanish BB's, the 37mm outer diameter was available off the shelf in many inner diameter options to suit the numerous spindle diameters of the day (excluding 15/16" as it wasn't around).
However, Spanish was always just that bit too small.
:)
G.
why? are they really too weak? never had a problem with mine I think (when I used to run it) , saves a considerable amount of weight , with bearings and bb being smaller.
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ive seen many spanish bearings crack and die
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T least you'll be able to run everyone's cranks. And buy bearings off the shelf for some of them
Technically speaking you still won't be able to get off the shelf bearings for 22mm mid. They are generally only common now in the bike industry. That was the whole benefit of Spanish BB's, the 37mm outer diameter was available off the shelf in many inner diameter options to suit the numerous spindle diameters of the day (excluding 15/16" as it wasn't around).
22mm Mid is custom yes, 3/4" isn't (R12). Compared to Spanish, where you could only get off the shelf bearings for 20mm Torker cranks. Being able to get off the shelf for 3/4" (Profile and 999 others) is more useful than running Torker cranks, don't you think?
Edit: Sorry didn't realise it had been mentioned
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As for buying off the shelf, I don't know why more people don't do it. There's more places in a city selling bearings off the shelf than there are bike shops in that city, and they are cheaper
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cos 19mm spindle cranks are in the minority these days. so typical of bmx to base the standard around one size, then almost completely abandon it in favour of a different size (22mm) and then come up with another different spindle size requiring another custom sized bearing (24mm). should have used the 22mm primo usa bb sized bearings for mid, not frickin profiles
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I was happy when cups meant bearing outer diam wasn't locked in
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T least you'll be able to run everyone's cranks. And buy bearings off the shelf for some of them
Technically speaking you still won't be able to get off the shelf bearings for 22mm mid. They are generally only common now in the bike industry. That was the whole benefit of Spanish BB's, the 37mm outer diameter was available off the shelf in many inner diameter options to suit the numerous spindle diameters of the day (excluding 15/16" as it wasn't around).
However, Spanish was always just that bit too small.
:)
G.
why? are they really too weak? never had a problem with mine I think (when I used to run it) , saves a considerable amount of weight , with bearings and bb being smaller.
Yes. On a 22mm crank it was just too thin. Sure some people were "fine" with a Spanish BB on 22mm but a good proportion DID break... never seen a Mid BB bearing broken in the same way...
Quantify "considerable amount of weight"... Was probably a maximum of about 50g, which seems a very small penalty to go from frequent failure to zero...
:)
G.
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The Spanish bearing is smaller than the mid bearing does someone really need explaining as to why one is stronger than the other?
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T least you'll be able to run everyone's cranks. And buy bearings off the shelf for some of them
Technically speaking you still won't be able to get off the shelf bearings for 22mm mid. They are generally only common now in the bike industry. That was the whole benefit of Spanish BB's, the 37mm outer diameter was available off the shelf in many inner diameter options to suit the numerous spindle diameters of the day (excluding 15/16" as it wasn't around).
No.
Mid has ONE standard size, 3/4" (so fit normal Profiles etc).
Spanish had ONE standard size 20mm (so fit nothing except some cheap OEM cranks)
However, Spanish was always just that bit too small.
:)
G.
I stand corrected. My main point though was that you still wont be able to get "off the shelf" bearings for 22mm mid. I certainly wasn't advocating Spanish BB's being a better alternative, I simply thought I remembered David from fly justifying the 37mm bearing OD preference for Spanish BB's due to the fact they had more options. It would appear there are far less "off the shelf" options available for the 1-5/8" bearing OD of Mid however, I'm sure you'll prove me wrong G.
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T least you'll be able to run everyone's cranks. And buy bearings off the shelf for some of them
Technically speaking you still won't be able to get off the shelf bearings for 22mm mid. They are generally only common now in the bike industry. That was the whole benefit of Spanish BB's, the 37mm outer diameter was available off the shelf in many inner diameter options to suit the numerous spindle diameters of the day (excluding 15/16" as it wasn't around).
However, Spanish was always just that bit too small.
:)
G.
why? are they really too weak? never had a problem with mine I think (when I used to run it) , saves a considerable amount of weight , with bearings and bb being smaller.
Yes. On a 22mm crank it was just too thin. Sure some people were "fine" with a Spanish BB on 22mm but a good proportion DID break... never seen a Mid BB bearing broken in the same way...
Quantify "considerable amount of weight"... Was probably a maximum of about 50g, which seems a very small penalty to go from frequent failure to zero...
:)
G.
ive cracked the inner race on a 22mm odyssey mid bb, but that was after like 5 years and having been bashed in and out of a few frames. my spanish did the same but way quicker
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For all the guys talking about animal, Part 2 is out: http://www.epictv.com/media/podcast/past-present-and-future-part-2-%7C-animal-bikes-/603366
It's not overly specific, but I can add to it that all is well again (and it wasn't for about a year) with the company and they are moving forward with restocking old product as well as new stuff.
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For all the guys talking about animal, Part 2 is out: http://www.epictv.com/media/podcast/past-present-and-future-part-2-%7C-animal-bikes-/603366
It's not overly specific, but I can add to it that all is well again (and it wasn't for about a year) with the company and they are moving forward with restocking old product as well as new stuff.
after a 18 hour day at work and almost killing numerous customers this has just brought the biggest fucking smile to my face
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For all the guys talking about animal, Part 2 is out: http://www.epictv.com/media/podcast/past-present-and-future-part-2-%7C-animal-bikes-/603366
It's not overly specific, but I can add to it that all is well again (and it wasn't for about a year) with the company and they are moving forward with restocking old product as well as new stuff.
Fuck yea Brett! Was searching for this last night.
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Excitement, is at an all time high
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Binge purchasing edwins and glh tyres can now cease, i can finally save some money.
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Binge purchasing edwins and glh tyres can now cease, i can finally save some money.
I have a couple pairs of GLH's I have been sitting on. Great news.
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The only thing I question in that Animal video is that Ralph states that both Nick B's work there. Nick Benson left Animal like 8 months ago and is at Cult?
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more glhs please, black and green. failing that, hopefully the make will rip em off