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The Street => The Lounge => Topic started by: Cole on May 30, 2015, 07:19:30 PM
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Well, I started using a vape a few months ago, but never really used it often. It was more something I kept with me while playing video games and I could use until the guys I played with agreed to go on a smoke break. About 2 months ago, my girlfriend really started bugging me to stop smoking. She took me to a vape shop she went to when she would get her e-juice. I got a starter kit and used it on and off for a bit, the juice I ended up going with didn't taste the greatest. A few weeks after that, I started on a new project with work, and smoking became VERY inconvenient, so i went back to that shop and picked up a bunch of different flavours. It was great, I wasn't smoking at all (This is 3.5 weeks ago). A couple weeks ago, I was in a new shop that just opened around the corner from the girlfriends house and the guy working there talked me into buying a new vape. After trying it out, it was amazing. Good, easy draw on it, great flavour.
However, after using that for about 2.5 weeks, I needed to replace the coils on it. After 3 cities, 5 different stores, I wasn't able to find anywhere that sold the coils. So today, I went out and got a new, higher end set-up. Holy shit, it is amazing. I figured with the money I'd saved by not smoking (About 400 bucks over the past 2 months), it was justifiable to splurge a bit on a set-up that could keep me off smoking. I talked with the shop keepers for about 10 minutes at the store, they answered the few questions I had and walked out of the store pretty stoked on what I had purchased.
For those of you who vape and may be interested in what I got, I grabbed a Kangertech Subtank Mini and an eLeaf 30W battery. They're good for between .5 ohm and 1.5 ohm resistance coils. The Subtank comes with a .5 and a 1.2 ohm coil, but so far I've only used the .5 ohm coil. It also comes with a rebuildable coil, but I haven't got into that yet, need to grab some tools to be able to do that. I also picked up two flavours of liquid, one is cinnamon funnel cake and the other is strawberry cheesecake and both are made by Beard Vape Co. and are 6mL of nicotine. Unfortunately they didn't have any 0 nicotine, but oh well.
Still trying to figure out the ideal settings for me with the coils and the variable power on the battery. So far I'm pretty happy with the .5 coil and 18W on the battery with the largest air opening for the tank.
So BG, do you vape? What are you using?
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you really are THAT FVCKING GUY!!!!!
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Yeah man, I am that guy. Sorry for trying to bring some more conversation to this board since there's like 5 threads over 2 pages long since the purge. Sorry for sharing a positive change I've made in my life, that I'm sure other members on here want to make as well. No wonder sheep gave up on this place. I'll be sure to just keep posting in the car threads and the occasional hate thread. Cheers m8.
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Fucking hate when people think "oh it's water vapor! I can do this in a restaurant or class."
I like when you see some CL shit or like a BMX group where some kid wants to trade his bike for a nice vape setup.
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I've never even attempted to do it anywhere public, or in someone else's house. I treat it basically like smoking when I'm outside of my house or vehicle. Unless it explicitly states that it's cool to vape somewhere, I just take it to a designated smoking area.
Also, that's hilarious that people are willing to trade a bike for one. I think I paid like 120ish for what I got, it's not a whole lot of money if you're actually a smoker. It kind of boggles my mind that people pick it up as a hobby.
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Video games, vaping , and a frs.. sounds like the type of stuff mall employees or gas station attendants are into lol.
But i hear where you are coming from, looking into getting a ~$60 one to hold me over instead of smoking cigs once a day. Don't like the people who call themselves cloud chasers or wear it around their necks.
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Vaping is lame as fuck.
#vapelyfebro
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Vaping is ok in my books as a way to quit smoking, it's better than burning tobacco, and you still get some nicotine to help with cravings while you're stopping. But the fact you bought a $120 "rig" and want 0 nicotine strawberry cheesecake juice is just the gayest.
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Are there any legit independent studies into whether it's much better than smoking out there, or has any side effects? A mate of mine is a preacher about these vapes and quotes completely biased articles he's more than likely read on vape4president420.com or similar. Every article I've read (for and against) seems to have an agenda.
It's not something I'm into at all but each to their own.
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Are there any legit independent studies into whether it's much better than smoking out there, or has any side effects? A mate of mine is a preacher about these vapes and quotes completely biased articles he's more than likely read on vape4president420.com or similar. Every article I've read (for and against) seems to have an agenda.
It's not something I'm into at all but each to their own.
Studies are lacking but most of the actual carcinogens come from the smoke/burning of tobacco plant. Nicotine is harmful as well but not as much as the actual tobacco smoke. The main dangerous part right now is that "e-juice", the shit you put in there, is completely unregulated so there's stories, anecdotal stuff about all kinds of horrible chemicals being used. I'm sure the vast majority of the shit you buy at some gas station is made in shady Chinese labs along with bath salts, fake pot, and the like. I don't vape or have any close friends doing it but I'm assuming there's companies producing safer, more expensive "e-juice" that's held to higher standards. It's something like a billion+ dollar industry now and there's a lot of ongoing research into long term effects. General consensus seems to be it has the potential to be overall less damaging than cigarettes but of course, nicotine is still a vasoconstrictor and bad for your heart health no matter how you slice it.
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Apparently it's harmful whether or not it includes nicotine, not as bad as smoke though. The main issue is that the liquids are completely unregulated so there is no restrictions on what goes in.
I used one of the original ones that looked like a cigarette and you bought cartridges rather than liquids, definitely useful in me giving up smoking but my chest felt worse after using one of those all night than it did after smoking
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Congratulations on giving up doing something mind bendingly stupid and replacing it with something only mildly shitty... maybe with time you will have enough will power to quit that too...
:)
G.
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I thought vapes were to help you quit smoking. Sounds like a lot of people are getting pretty financially invested in them
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Not claiming that it's completely healthy, but it's better than smoking.
Hugh, the only reason I spent that much money on one was for the availability of parts, went with some more popular brands that I can buy stuff for anywhere. The store I was in yesterday, the guy had a vape that he was about 300 into, and his wife had one that she was about 250 in to. But, they were both ex smokers, and they were super pumped when I told them I'd stopped smoking for a while now, and were very eager to help me out with getting something quality together.
There's a lot of different factors when it comes to vapes, and it all depends on how involved you want to get in it. The smaller, cheaper ones I found didn't have a big enough tank, the battery didn't last long enough and the airflow wasn't enough. The second one I had, was a bit better, still a very small tank, but thee battery and the airflow was better. The new one I have, the battery will last a few days, the tank will last hours and hours and the airflow is amazing. To me, it was worth it to spend that much compared to the amount of money id be spending on smokes.
Still not sure why people who aren't smokers got into using vapourizers.
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Congratulations on giving up doing something mind bendingly stupid and replacing it with something only mildly shitty... maybe with time you will have enough will power to quit that too...
:)
G.
Coming from someone who posted a pic of themselves riding MTBs without a helmet, I think you just proved we all have wildly varying ideas of "mind bendingly stupid".
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My folks quit smoking by using vapes like two years ago. Now they just vape all the time, seems like trading one vice for another. I tried using one to quit and it worked, I just replaced my smoking with a vape and then slowly stopped using the vape until eventually I quit. Went from a carton a week to none in a month. Buuuuut I ended up picking up again.
I also can't handle going to car meets/shows and seeing "vape" contests....
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Can anyone confirm if bitzer has 15 second vaping selfies on IG?
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Can anyone confirm if bitzer has 15 second vaping selfies on IG?
I can confirm that him and I talk a lot of shit about vaping.
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That's a relief. Is he still good at riding bikes?
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Not claiming that it's completely healthy, but it's better than smoking.
Hugh, the only reason I spent that much money on one was for the availability of parts, went with some more popular brands that I can buy stuff for anywhere. The store I was in yesterday, the guy had a vape that he was about 300 into, and his wife had one that she was about 250 in to. But, they were both ex smokers, and they were super pumped when I told them I'd stopped smoking for a while now, and were very eager to help me out with getting something quality together.
There's a lot of different factors when it comes to vapes, and it all depends on how involved you want to get in it. The smaller, cheaper ones I found didn't have a big enough tank, the battery didn't last long enough and the airflow wasn't enough. The second one I had, was a bit better, still a very small tank, but thee battery and the airflow was better. The new one I have, the battery will last a few days, the tank will last hours and hours and the airflow is amazing. To me, it was worth it to spend that much compared to the amount of money id be spending on smokes.
Still not sure why people who aren't smokers got into using vapourizers.
I think the point he was making is that you're getting invested in it which generally means you're not viewing it as a means to an end. Now you've spent money on something that was supposed to be a short/temporary thing to quit smoking meaning you're less likely to quit altogether.
As for being unsure why non-smokers vape, same reasons non-smokers start smoking. You were a non-smoker once and started smoking cigs, why did you do it? Friends were doing it, thought it looked cool, just loved having things in your mouth and sucking on them?
I also think vaping is becoming more popular because you can burn hash with some of them and also get "juice" with THC in it. So you can toke in public and look like you're not. Plus it's acceptable to do inside bars so you can still look cool to the ladies sucking that robot penis.
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Congratulations on giving up doing something mind bendingly stupid and replacing it with something only mildly shitty... maybe with time you will have enough will power to quit that too...
:)
G.
Coming from someone who posted a pic of themselves riding MTBs without a helmet, I think you just proved we all have wildly varying ideas of "mind bendingly stupid".
Obvious Troll is obvious... Suffice to say that wearing a helmet is not as black and white as you make out, and if you want to discuss it more then resurrect the old helmet thread and do it there...
:)
G.
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You didn't...
...hit your head??? Did you?
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I think the point he was making is that you're getting invested in it which generally means you're not viewing it as a means to an end. Now you've spent money on something that was supposed to be a short/temporary thing to quit smoking meaning you're less likely to quit altogether.
As for being unsure why non-smokers vape, same reasons non-smokers start smoking. You were a non-smoker once and started smoking cigs, why did you do it? Friends were doing it, thought it looked cool, just loved having things in your mouth and sucking on them?
I also think vaping is becoming more popular because you can burn hash with some of them and also get "juice" with THC in it. So you can toke in public and look like you're not. Plus it's acceptable to do inside bars so you can still look cool to the ladies sucking that robot penis.
You're assuming quite a bit about my situation with using a vapourizer. I invested money in it to keep me wanting to use one while I keep off smoking. I tried cold turkey, that didn't work. I tried using the patch, that didn't work. I tried using the gum, that didn't work. I've found a solution that works for me.
I started smoking because I was a young, impressionable 18 year old, and a lot of people I was friends with smoked. It was also a way to get out of doing work with the military. And yeah, throw a thinly veiled gay joke in there, super cool, brah.
No where that I've been to lets you use a vape indoors. In fact, a bill just passed in Ontario (Maybe even Canada, haven't heard too much about it) that regulates it just as much as it does cigarettes and other tobacco products. They've even banned flavoured tobacco. Don't need to look cool for the ladies, since my lady is totally supportive of me in my efforts to kick smoking to the curb.
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I got a vape so I wouldn't have to smoke ciggies when I went out drinking. Now I take anywhere from 20-300 hits a day on my vape just because I've ended up becoming dependent on nicotine. It's more of a mild desire than a full on addiction though. I don't fiend for it unless I'm drinking.
Cole, I suggest buying your liquid online at either vapejoose or vapewild. Both offer great prices, and while the general consensus appears to think vapewild is significantly better, I think it's a matter of opinion. I agree with them though. You can get 120mL of liquid for $20, and they offer great support and throw in lots of freebies.
I think I've read some things about the eleaf being a fire hazard so I would do some more research on that if I were you. Right now I'm using a nemesis mech clone and an atty tobh clone. Have you ever tried a mechanical mod?
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I've looked into buying liquid online, but it's tough for me, since I'm rarely home. Also, I'm not sure if it's legal to do in Canada now after the recently passed law. Maybe I can buy from Canadian companies, but I doubt I'd be able to "import" it. I'm perfectly content with picking up the liquid wherever I'm at. Although, 120mL for $20 bucks sounds amazing. I think I spent like 32 bucks on 30mL yesterday, but it is by far the best juice I've tried.
Everything I've read about the eleaf is that it's good. The only thing that may cause an issue is using it while it's charging, or using too low a resistance coil and shorting it.
Looked into mech mods, and I think I could easily build one myself. Just need to figure out the ratio of #of coils to resistance. From what I've seen so far, it seems like 5 coils will give you between .5 and .7 ohms, but before I get into that, I want to start doing some rebuilds on coils. Right now, it's just really convenient for me to use the prebuilt coils given the amount of travelling I do.
Also, I've noticed such an improvement in taste since upgrading to the subtank and istick. That and the cooler hits are making it really enjoyable.
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I thought this was going to be a weed thread, gay.
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I thought this was going to be a weed thread, gay.
my friend put bud under the coil in his vape because he didnt have wraps and it worked fine.
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I'm sure the vast majority of the shit you buy at some gas station is made in shady Chinese labs along with bath salts, fake pot, and the like.
Haha, I'm half tempted to get some and put it through HPLC and then buy all the chemicals off alibaba. Market it to all the Coles' on campus as local, safer, and so forth.
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Do it.
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I thought this was going to be a weed thread, gay.
Seriously
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Shouldn't be too hard, the esters in those juices are easy to synthesize. Bubble gum is like butyl acetate, banana is isopentyl acetate, sour apple is pentyl acetate. Already have three organic juice choices! I just need to find out the nicotine component.
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Shouldn't be too hard, the esters in those juices are easy to synthesize. Bubble gum is like butyl acetate, banana is isopentyl acetate, sour apple is pentyl acetate. Already have three organic juice choices! I just need to find out the nicotine component.
http://www.nudenicotine.com does this help? i didn't even look at the page.
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I have no idea the concentrations though. I need to run some GC or HPLC on a preferred thing of your juices and get an idea of the molarity of the flavors and nicotine.
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I have no idea the concentrations though. I need to run some GC or HPLC on a preferred thing of your juices and get an idea of the molarity of the flavors and nicotine.
I cheated through chem 1 and 2 so i'm lost. 0-6mg seems to be the most popular amount though if that clears anything up.
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For what amount of liquid?
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I think it's a ratio. Like 6mg/15ml, 12mg/15ml and so on. Although I'd argue with non smokers getting into it, there's probably just as big a market for selling to people who want zero nicotine.
Edit: upon further research, the nicotine is measured per ml. So it's 6mg of nicotine to 1ml of liquid.
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Haha, guys who drink NA beer and use a nicotine free robot dick. (Which isn't a thinly veiled gay joke, but alluding to the nomenclature of meth pipes.)
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That's a relief. Is he still good at riding bikes?
Idk. I havent really ridden with him in a few years (or at all for that matter).