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The Street => The Lounge => Topic started by: Liveinthewoods on December 04, 2014, 08:03:44 PM
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Seeing the Kink 20 years stuff and it got me thinking how I miss the old days of companies. Do you prefer the "new age" companies or do you like how things used to be? Kink and Odyssey have gotten much better over the years I think. But I miss the old Fit, Fly and Primo days, product quality and the teams.
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I usually stick to parts from companies I've known for years. Mostly classic companies. My current bike is made of t1, s&m, solid, flybikes, odyssey, g sport, and then a couple of bits from newer companies like éclat and BSD.
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subtle "I'm getting old" thread. ;)
I don't give a fuck about companies, with the execption being I can't support the big companies that abandoned bmx in the late 80's. (haro, diamond back, mongoose, redline) I don't hate anyone that works for those companies, more power to 'em. I just can't/won't give them my money.
Early 90's bmx was one of the best times in bmx because it was only the hardcore. S&M, Wilkerson Airlines/2-hip, Homeless Bikes,Standard etc. But honestly, I'm still SUPER stoked on bmx today. Even though I don't ride as much or as hard as I did 20 years ago.
As long as my bike is dialed, my body is healthy and I'm chillin' with my bmx friends, its FUCKING AWESOME.
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http://vimeo.com/112254793 (http://vimeo.com/112254793) The Make is sick.
There are a lot of cool new things out there, it's just harder to find with all these shitty ones.
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i used to like kink more than i do now, even with their nostalgia parts, theyre still mostly a cookie cutter parts company based around a team of popular riders.
saw one of the old 44t solid kink sprockets last week on an old t1 barcode-it had been sitting in the guys shed for at least 6 years and he decided to head out for a roll. i was very stoked on his bike, was like it had been sent in a time machine from 2001
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Man, their dropout protectors were a must have for me back in the day. They made the dropout 1/2" thick. Their og pegs were the best too.
Whats the worst is the old 44t solid dinner plate bent like the dropouts that were almost equally as big.
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I feel old and lame, but I just can't feel what most of the new companies are doing. I'm sure it appeals to the average 16 year old bmxer.
So I guess I stick to older brands that I like.
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So many shitty complete bike companies I've never heard of, all doing the same things, completely saturating the market.
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I usually stick to parts from companies I've known for years. Mostly classic companies. My current bike is made of t1, s&m, solid, flybikes, odyssey, g sport, and then a couple of bits from newer companies like éclat and BSD.
BSD is as old as G-Sport I think. I definitely bought a sprocket off Grant back in about 95. Definitely older than Fly.
:)
G.
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Ha yep, I got a BSD sprocket many moons ago! One of my first 'aftermarket' parts. Probably 97?
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I know it's not popular, and I'll most likely get hated for this, but I'm stupidly loyal to S&M. Odyssey and Profile also, but that's not nearly as unpopular.
I took a really long break from like 1995ish (when I joined the Navy) to 2012, and when I came back, S&M (and ODY/Profile) seemed to be mostly exactly how I left them. Moeller was still in charge, and they even still sold Dirtbikes. I didn't even recognize most other companies.
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I usually stick to parts from companies I've known for years. Mostly classic companies. My current bike is made of t1, s&m, solid, flybikes, odyssey, g sport, and then a couple of bits from newer companies like éclat and BSD.
BSD is as old as G-Sport I think. I definitely bought a sprocket off Grant back in about 95. Definitely older than Fly.
:)
G.
Interesting. I had no idea. I guess they weren't that well known in the states or at least not to me.
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I'm pretty loyal to s&m/fit and I only spend money on products from good companies.
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i wish kink would bring back the 5" black oxide lifetime warranty pegs.
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Fit/s&m/gsport/odyssey/t1
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i wish kink would bring back the 5" black oxide lifetime warranty pegs.
Haha, I ground through one of those and sent it back.
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dont give a damn about it.
discussing bmx brands is gay as fuck. I am more like Carlo's whatever is in discount at dans.
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I guess I'm into the more established older brands? My bike is Mutiny, Odyssey, S&M, Fly, Profile and a Proper.
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I know it's not popular, and I'll most likely get hated for this, but I'm stupidly loyal to S&M.
Here on the West Coast of Canada people are coocoo for S&M, I thought it was a Vancouver Island thing but they seem to hook up some of the local riders in Vancouver too. Nothing against them, but I don't own any of their stuff.
I definitely preach the church of Odyssey/GS to all, but I guess their brand image isn't hard enough or something. For the modern era, I think Tree has built something good.
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I think in most cases if you don't buy Odyssey you are a fool, but I like the outlook of Fly and T1 (prioritising travel and smoothness). I also have a lot of respect for The Make and Brad Simms, they seem to go to the most ridiculous places.
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Brad Simms is such an interesting dude. I love seeing when there is a new video out. It's like those mornings when there are donuts at work.
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ive heard brad simms is a bit of a douche, apparently when he was over here he was getting snaked by skaters at some park as was all like "dont these guys know who I am?" - apparently theres a reason he ends up riding for trash companies like alienation even though he can 540 on flat and hop higher than the sun. thats just what i heard though, his bulldog bikes section is wicked
I usually stick to parts from companies I've known for years. Mostly classic companies. My current bike is made of t1, s&m, solid, flybikes, odyssey, g sport, and then a couple of bits from newer companies like éclat and BSD.
BSD is as old as G-Sport I think. I definitely bought a sprocket off Grant back in about 95. Definitely older than Fly.
:)
G.
Interesting. I had no idea. I guess they weren't that well known in the states or at least not to me.
yeah they only made sprockets for years, then they did a few ti axles i think, then suddenly theyve got a full range straight out of the taiwan big book of bike parts.
still dont rate their newer stuff though, i get the feeling their selling product more on their team than the actual products themselves (but hey, thats how you make a profit in bmx) which doesnt make me wanna buy their stuff particularly. my 22 came with a bsd rear hub and its loud-if thats your thing
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I do respect old companies who survived, and ready to respect new companies making decent parts. I'm buying parts from any innovative brand that shows true interest in BMX, and not brands that copy someone else efforts to make money.
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Seeing as how I consider FlyBikes one of the "new" brands, I guess I'd stick with the old stuff.
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I like Cult.
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You like Cult?
(http://m.quickmeme.com/img/c6/c618746130517b7efd9c8a2319fd9019c9afe64b9c967ab47c7c3c0d93f6006c.jpg)
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IMO cult ain't that bad, i actually giggle once i realize everything that stands before the name CULT. They are now well established and might even surrpass fitbikeco's legacy.
TO me the brands have to do a very good job choosing their riders and who they support. Seems to me that some brands do a poor job keeping their riders and making a family instead of just a bike brand.
Can't we all agree we would be stoked to see taj back riding for t-1?
can't even choose a favorite bike brand since they are all massively trendy now a days and i'm too old to keep up with the fads.
Lets just say if i had the opportunity to ride any bike i'd like i would ride a full WTP.
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I will also add that that the new stays on the Stranger Ballast frame dropouts are a nice touch.. They seem to do their own thing to some extent, and I respect that. I wonder if their 8mm dropouts with built in tensioners are hollow a la Wave, anyone?
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I remember from my riding days that if you didn't have anything from Odyssey, you were doing it wrong.
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The last BMX product I bought was a Tree sprocket like 2 years ago. I don't even ride often enough to warrant putting my money where my mouth is regarding my brand preferences. They're probably pretty much the same as every other dude in their late-20s on Bikeguide.
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I pretty much only care about Bear corp. or Moellers brands.. Deco seems cool though..
I don't even pay much attention to T! (Which seems more like an American based Fly bikes now).
FBM doesn't have much for products that set them apart from other brands now.. etc etc.
I guess I'm just losing touch with bmx..
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cause you're my girl and thats alright
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Older companies are where its at for me....that would have to include companies with owners from the old era too, so Cult would be one of the. Robbie Morales was in the 1st ever Props video so hes bonafide!
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Looked at my bike recently and noticed and I'm biased towards the older companies. The parts are either Fit, S&M, Primo, Tree or Odyssey. I think because it's the time period I grew up riding in and I now know what I like so I stick to it.
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You like Cult?
(http://m.quickmeme.com/img/c6/c618746130517b7efd9c8a2319fd9019c9afe64b9c967ab47c7c3c0d93f6006c.jpg)
I wonder though, is liking Cult liking a new brand if you're a fan of Robbie Morales and Neal Wood from BITD?
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i dont like cult or stranger. both brand driven companys for whom innovation is a roll of the dice
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I actually prefer newer. I have been in the scene for like 12-15 years something. Have had friends talk about almost having to like T1 or similar brands because I'm considered an older rider. Truth is that I always disliked those brands...
For some reason I have always preffered continental European brands such as Twentybicycles, Dragonfly, Mankind, Autumn, Country bikes and KHE.
Edit; I guess KHE is an old Company...
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the last bmx frame I owned was an FBM and the next one will be an FBM.
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I feel like old brands are afraid of innovation and for that reason alone I don't fuck with them.
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It's all the same.
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on the subject of kink
http://snakebitebmx.com/lookback-the-early-years-of-kink-bmx/#more-2473 (http://snakebitebmx.com/lookback-the-early-years-of-kink-bmx/#more-2473)
man they made so much rad shit before i even started riding
though im annoyed at modern kink again now, for reissuing the old solid kink sprocket when they could have re-released the sexdrive sprocket. like wtf kink
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on the subject of kink
http://snakebitebmx.com/lookback-the-early-years-of-kink-bmx/#more-2473 (http://snakebitebmx.com/lookback-the-early-years-of-kink-bmx/#more-2473)
man they made so much rad shit before i even started riding
though im annoyed at modern kink again now, for reissuing the old solid kink sprocket when they could have re-released the sexdrive sprocket. like wtf kink
I think i remember grabbing a bmx zine and looking at one of those ads and getting the biggest mindfuck ever because i didnt know what they where sellling, i was probably less than 10 years old. thats probably why i got into bmx.
never realized how ground breaking joe tiseo was. feeble hard 180's back in the day was something no one was doing.
so much nostalgia and im happy i always gave kink the respect they deserved. now i'm indiferent of the brand just like anyone else. they are pretty meh.
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Never really cared about kink parts wise but I do like their team.