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The Street => The Bike Shop => Topic started by: streetStreet on November 12, 2014, 03:27:14 PM
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So the hub is out now and there isn't wen a thread about it.
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Is it actually for sale anywhere?
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You can get it if you buy the WTP Envy. Same with the Aeon cranks.
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Where is it for sale
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left or right, free coaster or cassette. Sounds pretty great.
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Man, it's obviously just me, but that dude is not a pleasure to watch. Hes got some cool stuff and that promo should show the ability to go backwards, it just seemed rushed and unpolished.
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Man, it's obviously just me, but that dude is not a pleasure to watch. Hes got some cool stuff and that promo should show the ability to go backwards, it just seemed rushed and unpolished.
+1
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No pictures, links or info. Great thread.
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Man, it's obviously just me, but that dude is not a pleasure to watch. Hes got some cool stuff and that promo should show the ability to go backwards, it just seemed rushed and unpolished.
true
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Where is it for sale
This.
I don't think a single entity outside of Eclat has one yet.
Even then, I still have a solid "meh" opinion of it.
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Pretty sure all the Eclat stuff is landing in the US later this month.
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Freecoaster riding peaked with Ian Sportz and Bruce Crisman!
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(http://www.sourcebmx.com/Images/Models/Original/28699.jpg)
(http://www.eclatbmx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Screen-Shot-2012-08-10-at-18.07.20-540x358.png)
Avaliable in the UK from 12/12/2014 for £140 (sourcebmx) or $200 (albes). 9t driver. Weighs 590 grams. Can be switched from RHD to LHD and from a freecoaster to a cassette. Uses a plastic bushing in the driver. Comes in black, polished or blue. The promo shane weston video is pretty shit so here's some ian schwartz and bruce crisman instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egbvDQCyMeQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHpKMIgedFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpTcj3djL2g
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QBP says 2/6/15 for ETA
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2/6/15 means 6th of february right you ass-backwards cowboy?
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QBP says 2/6/15 for ETA
2/6/15 means 6th of february right you ass-backwards cowboy?
Maybe time machine?
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Should be in Germany approximately in the next 3 weeks.
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Any internals yet?
Thought themerged would be disecting that thing by now lol
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Any internals yet?
Thought themerged would be disecting that thing by now lol
I have dissected one, it's pretty nifty. Pretty sure all the tension that keeps the pawl ramps from spinning as you pedal comes from the sideload from the driver side cone.
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Here's some pictures from Kurts coverage of Interbike this year.
(http://s22.postimg.org/leezpqxxt/Blind_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
(http://s28.postimg.org/pj797av25/Blind_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
(http://s28.postimg.org/pctk47lx9/Blind_3.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
Looks like the set screws on the pawl ramp piece tighten down on the bushing giving it some friction on the axle. The pawls look like they get restricted down into the hub with a traditional pawl clip.
As long as there's more friction there at the "ramps" than the clip puts on the pawls, then everything will function fine.
The pawl ramps look like they function identical to the way the Eastern/Ezra hub works, in that as the pawls move forward they slide up on ramps on a washer next to them pushing them up to engage the ratchet ring.
The big difference between this and the Eastern, though is that the Blind has a totally different ratchet ring that has it's teeth spaced out a lot more to allow more slack at times. Makes me wonder though, if the slack stays consistent all the time?
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No pictures, links or info. Great thread.
My thoughts exactly. I want to have an opinion!!! haha
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Man, it's obviously just me, but that dude is not a pleasure to watch. Hes got some cool stuff and that promo should show the ability to go backwards, it just seemed rushed and unpolished.
that was also my first impression with a random barspin
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2/6/15 means 6th of february right you ass-backwards cowboy?
Ye, Haw.
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... the Blind has a totally different ratchet ring that has it's teeth spaced out a lot more to allow more slack at times. Makes me wonder though, if the slack stays consistent all the time?
This is my thinking too. If you are going backwards then those teeth are moving past pretty fast and the spacing becomes completely irrelevant, if you inadvertently crank forwards enough to raise a pawl, then it IS going to try to engage.
However, it may be that the wider spacing will help when pedaling forwards in a normal style because the pawls will have a little more time to fully raise before hitting a tooth so they are likely to be fully engaged rather than on the very corner of the tip... then again it is still a "crash" engagement that I can see being very hard on all the parts and those flipable ratchet rings dont have the best reputation for strength to start with.
I normally try to resist dissecting other companies products but this is too interesting to pass up so I have tried to be balanced, but I am obviously biased so completely ignore everything I have written or at least treat it with a huge amount of scepticism and assume I am lying.
:)
G.
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Man, it's obviously just me, but that dude is not a pleasure to watch. Hes got some cool stuff and that promo should show the ability to go backwards, it just seemed rushed and unpolished.
that was also my first impression with a random barspin
Finally saw the video. You guys are fucking crazy. That had some really good backwards clips. If you want to talk shit on the guy, tell him to get a hair cut or something. Or to not ride green tires. But I was pleasantly surprised with a bunch of clips in this video.
Hater's gon hate.
Also, props to Eclat for actually putting out a product related video when their product will actually be available. All of the #comingsoon bull shit is for the birds.
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displeasure and hate are pretty diffferent when you look at it. I just didnt enjoy it that much. hell, Ian schawrtz's first line in the lotek video is more enjoyable than all three minutes of that.
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That's because Lotek Mixtape is one of the greatest BMX films ever!!!!
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The best BMX film ever was the film all over my balls after I fell into an oil-slicked puddle trying a bunnyhop over it.
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The best BMX film ever was the film all over my balls after I fell into an oil-slicked puddle trying a bunnyhop over it.
this is either a severely intelligent bot or one of the most insightful bits of bmx related babble I have ever read.
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Not been keeping up on this,why does it only come in 8tooth?
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Not been keeping up on this,why does it only come in 8tooth?
Can't be
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Nvm sites are saying it comes in 9
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Here's some pictures from Kurts coverage of Interbike this year.
(http://s22.postimg.org/leezpqxxt/Blind_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
(http://s28.postimg.org/pj797av25/Blind_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
(http://s28.postimg.org/pctk47lx9/Blind_3.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
Looks like the set screws on the pawl ramp piece tighten down on the bushing giving it some friction on the axle. The pawls look like they get restricted down into the hub with a traditional pawl clip.
As long as there's more friction there at the "ramps" than the clip puts on the pawls, then everything will function fine.
The pawl ramps look like they function identical to the way the Eastern/Ezra hub works, in that as the pawls move forward they slide up on ramps on a washer next to them pushing them up to engage the ratchet ring.
The big difference between this and the Eastern, though is that the Blind has a totally different ratchet ring that has it's teeth spaced out a lot more to allow more slack at times. Makes me wonder though, if the slack stays consistent all the time?
Allllriiiiight.
I am going to have to look it up but it looks like a couple concepts that Sturmey Archer incorporated in their internal gear hubs- but then german-ed up a bit. I have exploded view sheets, problem is; it's going to be one of the dozens of different designs of the last 20/30 years.
Give me a day, i'll get back on this.
Mainwhile i have to agree that the high speed engaging might result in stressed parts but the lesser engagement points should help the case. Nobody really goes backwards upwards of what? 20mph? tops
If the engagement is click-on and click-off, i think the high speed engagement issue might not pose a problem at all.
With KHE i think the problem was moving your cranks while fakieing, and then suddenly engaging.
If the Blind works the way i think it does, the above might be a bit less/eliminated.
I'm stupid though.