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Title: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: @ss4oLe on November 07, 2014, 07:54:53 AM
Wild. I don't remember seeing these things they look kinda neat. 

 On my phone so someone else will have to post a pic...

http://www.allridebmx.com/shop/product_info.php?language=en&gm_boosted_product=Nabe-DK-Front-310752&BMX=Bremsen-Co-&Bremsen=Nabe-DK-Front-310752.html&products_id=310752&

Discuss.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: RighteousBMX on November 07, 2014, 08:27:25 AM
Pretty damn good idea but the convenience of a Quik Slic is just the tits for me. That hanger plus an SLS Linear cable might be braking heaven, though.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: Brooklynrider on November 07, 2014, 08:27:47 AM
I have the version before that. Works well but the odyssey cable with the built in hanger works better and its less work to set up.
Edit: I missed the spring part.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: RighteousBMX on November 07, 2014, 08:32:33 AM
Oh, apparently the spring hanger provides tension for the whole brake, no springs in the arms. Meh.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: Jobsy on November 07, 2014, 11:45:21 AM
Looking at this to answer my need for maximal tyre to brake clearance. Less gubbins in the arms = more space for tyre...
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: Stoked on November 07, 2014, 12:13:33 PM
The fly brake system will change again next year and the year after that until the end of time
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: KillSeth on November 07, 2014, 01:08:51 PM
I am interested in these, but I am waiting to hear some first-hand experience.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: Narcoleptic Insomniac on November 07, 2014, 02:16:19 PM
I want to give this a try. Will probably order one around Xmas time.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: @ss4oLe on November 07, 2014, 03:19:56 PM
I think this is A cool idea.

As noted, the spring is the cable hanger.

I'm curious how much tension is on the spring and how much you can bend it back and forth before it breaks.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: Eggit2 on November 09, 2014, 12:02:39 AM
What problem does this solve? I suppose it might be easier to set up, but you also sacrifice a lot. You can't fine tune tension at all or adjust each side individually.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: Mychaylo on November 09, 2014, 03:52:03 AM
Eggit i uad the same concerns with the springfirld but gave it a go due to the low stack height. Turns out its great tension oit of the box, if this is similar od have confidence in it.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: RighteousBMX on November 09, 2014, 04:32:42 PM
But the point of the Springfield is that it's cheap; the cost offsets the lack of adjustability. I'm sure the Fly brake won't be cheap and yet will not be very adjustable. Rather run a regular 990.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: @ss4oLe on November 09, 2014, 05:22:53 PM
$35.95 or something in the new Danscomp catalog.

Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: dude... on November 09, 2014, 08:10:09 PM
wont be springfield cheap, but will be cheap compared to the full fleshed fly brake im sure
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: RighteousBMX on November 09, 2014, 08:55:37 PM
wont be springfield cheap, but will be cheap compared to the full fleshed fly brake im sure

Now with 100% less adjustabilities!
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: paranoidmexican on November 09, 2014, 08:56:28 PM
I miss when fly bikes stuff was stupid expensive but amazing. OG brakes and levers was amazing.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: dude... on November 09, 2014, 10:36:22 PM
were they though? they were cool when having the most expensive stuff was teh coolest. evos were always fine for me
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: paranoidmexican on November 10, 2014, 06:18:27 AM
were they though? they were cool when having the most expensive stuff was teh coolest. evos were always fine for me

I think so. I still have og fly brakes and think they are the best brake made.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: BilboBaggins on November 10, 2014, 07:46:07 AM
Yeah their og aluminum stuff was nice
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: Kinchy on November 10, 2014, 08:19:18 AM
People saying its not adjustable, you just bend the hanger to your desired setting, the further out you bend it the more tension it will have.

The fly brake system will change again next year and the year after that until the end of time

Not sure if you're implying this is bad.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: RighteousBMX on November 10, 2014, 03:31:39 PM
People saying its not adjustable, you just bend the hanger to your desired setting, the further out you bend it the more tension it will have.

You are not able to adjust each arm individually with this brake. Less adjustability.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: @ss4oLe on November 10, 2014, 04:28:13 PM
I used to think one needed both arms to be able to have spring adjustability too.

Since running Springfields, I've come to realize its not important.

Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: G on November 10, 2014, 05:09:44 PM
I would expect that trying to push arms apart from the end of the hanger is going to put quite a bend into the hager/spring "legs" and give the brake a spongey feel, be interesting to hear how it goes for people in reality.
:)
G.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: JFax on November 11, 2014, 08:41:34 AM
Quote
I think so. I still have og fly brakes and think they are the best brake made.

Cant say for rear brake but my front one was 20000 % better than any other brake Ive had.

The last couple of models have been differently made though, so not sure if their brakes work as good anymore
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: mattywatty on November 16, 2014, 06:46:12 PM
I miss when fly bikes stuff was stupid expensive but amazing. OG brakes and levers was amazing.

This. I wish I still had my old CNCd Fly brakes.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: Cellmember on November 18, 2014, 08:47:11 PM
I preferred the design they showed at interbike they had a slimmer profile but I can see why they went with the new route as you don't have to modify your brake mounts as in cut them down.

For anyone wanting to see the difference.
(http://i59.tinypic.com/15x97qx.jpg)





Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: Cellmember on November 20, 2014, 11:04:12 PM
I can also see the centre piece where the cable hanger sits warping when using when pulling on the brake.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: lobbster on November 21, 2014, 02:27:13 PM
So i did this back in the day with some odyssey brakes and a road bike spoke. it feels like shit and is a massive pain. the angle of the knarp entrance into the brake arm on the odysseys was just about right that it didnt stay in there at all well but luckily they had that bolt on top to clamp them into the arm. i guess fly will correct for this but without actually clamping to the arm i guess they are going to pop out here and there i would imagine.

my experience was just as g speculates. you also end up with the cable hanger kind of dangling around since the tension on the cable is pretty weak compared to that holding the brakes apart it isnt held in place properly by the cable. hard to explain. you also have to set the cable alignment up in the vertical plane in addition to the normal adjustments

I would expect that trying to push arms apart from the end of the hanger is going to put quite a bend into the hager/spring "legs" and give the brake a spongey feel, be interesting to hear how it goes for people in reality.
:)
G.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: Kurt Hohberger on November 24, 2014, 05:36:43 PM
I've been running the brakes since September and I really like them. Simple to install and the pull is actually pretty dialed and smooth. You do have to have your wheel centered or it can be spongy, but when the arms are pretty even it's real good.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: Cellmember on November 24, 2014, 06:16:40 PM
I've been running the brakes since September and I really like them. Simple to install and the pull is actually pretty dialed and smooth. You do have to have your wheel centered or it can be spongy, but when the arms are pretty even it's real good.

Could we get some pictures with the brake installed, pretty please !
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: Kurt Hohberger on November 26, 2014, 05:49:08 PM
I've been running the brakes since September and I really like them. Simple to install and the pull is actually pretty dialed and smooth. You do have to have your wheel centered or it can be spongy, but when the arms are pretty even it's real good.

Could we get some pictures with the brake installed, pretty please !

I'm running some samples with the bolts from the regular Manual brakes, so they don't sit flush like they're supposed to. I'll have the right bolts next week. I'll post photos when they come through.

Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: Cellmember on November 27, 2014, 05:54:55 PM
I've been running the brakes since September and I really like them. Simple to install and the pull is actually pretty dialed and smooth. You do have to have your wheel centered or it can be spongy, but when the arms are pretty even it's real good.

Could we get some pictures with the brake installed, pretty please !

I'm running some samples with the bolts from the regular Manual brakes, so they don't sit flush like they're supposed to. I'll have the right bolts next week. I'll post photos when they come through.

Excellent ! Thanks Kurt, can't wait to see it.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: @ss4oLe on January 22, 2015, 09:38:30 PM
kurt ,
Let's get an update on these things. You got pics for us?

does the hanger flop around and hit the frame from lack of tension?
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: Cellmember on January 27, 2015, 02:53:45 AM
kurt ,
Let's get an update on these things. You got pics for us?

does the hanger flop around and hit the frame from lack of tension?

I can see that as a possibility.
Title: Re: Fly spring hanger brakes
Post by: sans.terre on January 27, 2015, 08:09:33 AM
every now and then i think it would be awesome to run brakes again but then its like "adjust your springs, make sure wheel is true, spongey, clearance, blahbalhablah"

ohmygod