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The Street => The Bike Shop => Topic started by: Bunky on October 30, 2014, 08:02:26 AM
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Does anyone have experience rawing Sunday or Odyssey parts?
I've got some Sunday 24umph bars I'm trying to raw, and I put some stripper I got from Hoe Depot on there with no results, and then tried aircraft grade spray stripper (which has normally done the trick on anything for me), with no results either.
What's the best way to take off this Black Magic stuff? Seems that once it's on there, there's no getting it off!!!
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I used some orange organic stuff for my 2nd Wave, let it sit a while and that took a lot of the paint off. Then I went at it with a box cutter to scrape softer areas off. The black magic I just sanded, and wear a good mask or you'll be breathing in/blowing fine black shit out of your nose if you don't.
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You need to send it to the firey depths of hell to melt it off. Only way it works.
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The parts in question are only Black Magic coated, so no actual paint needs to be removed.
What is the Black Magic coating made out of? Should I be wearing a mask/glasses if I decide to just sand it off?
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Bunky, I can't say that I've tried Sunday/Odyssey parts, but Wal Mart sells a spray-on paint striper, Citristrip, that has an orange top and green can. That shit has worked on everything I've tried and it's pretty cheap. Maybe give that a shot?
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aircraft stripper and a wire brush took the outside color and black magic off. Took some elbow grease and patience
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Its epoxy based. Why are you taking it off, the only reason would be to raw or plate. If you are re-painting then leave it on there as there is no better primer.
:)
G.
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I want to raw it. I might polish it after I raw it depending on how dark it is.
If it won't come off with stripper, and I have to use sandpaper, then I'll probably polish it up a bit.
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try wire wool? that worked on whatever the rust proofing layer on my gen 1 sunday was, though its probs different to the black magic coating.
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I stripped my Barney purple Forecaster, and it was a bitch. I used paint stripper for most of it, but there were a few places that for one reason or another that the purple wouldn't come off clean and it would leave raised paint surfaces that totally show through once the new paint was applied. I started the process hoping to leave the black magic, but the frame was far from evenly black magicked (basically the whole rear triangle was raw under the paint) so I ended up going at it all with a scotch wheel in my drill and then painting it black.
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I want to raw it. I might polish it after I raw it depending on how dark it is.
If it won't come off with stripper, and I have to use sandpaper, then I'll probably polish it up a bit.
Good luck. I had a pretty nice result after polishing. Was quite stoked with it but i'd recommend a powdercoat clearcoat instead of spraypaint. Looks shit quite fast.
And i think i do pretty awesome job spraying so i guess it's just the way spray paint protects the raw metal.
The pictures get resized by fb so zoom em out for a bit sharper view.
sprayed
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sprayed
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not yet sprayed (a bit more luminous/chrome-ish)
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Wow, what did you use to polish it? That's a mirror like finish.
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I've never stripped a black magic coated part, but the Odyssey Lumberjacks I stripped took freaking forever with aircraft stripper. At least 6 coats of the stuff and lots of scraping.
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half the time depending on where you are its easier to just get them media blasted. I got a set of bars and forks done for 20 dollars. and I never would have been able to take it down that well by hand.
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What did it look like after you got your stuff media blasted.
At this point with how much I work, I'd totally be will to drop my stuff off somewhere and pay 20 bucks to have it done.
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it comes out kind of a flat grey looking color. its just super clean at that point. it might take you a few trys to find some one to do it cheap though. first place I called wanted like $100 dollars. I ended up finding a guy who does hotrods who I now use for all my blasting needs, he's got huge booths and his pricing is based on size.
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Strip to raw is a hard task at hand.
4 hours to do the whole frame.
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The most Bikeguide of threads.
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(http://40.media.tumblr.com/258fa3490bea77dd035ba538fd6ccda6/tumblr_mkycw1JDWH1qi3a80o4_1280.jpg)
I used Circa 1885 to strip my Director, it was a thick coat of fluorescent yellow (many coatz) I and black magic unders. It was slow and steady work with a scrunge and some wire brush, as well as the wooden side of the brush handle. I polished with sandpaper and a little wire bristle tip on a drill to get in the tough spots.
Patience bunky.
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That looks pretty awesome.
I've emailed 2 different places that do media blasting here in Raleigh and neither of them have responded... I'm going to try some other places and see what I can come up with.
Will keep you guys posted.
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Use some fine grade sand paper just to scratch up the surface and create a way for the stripper to seep into the paint and it'll do the trick, try it and see how it goes, can't hurt.
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If you still haven't had any luck, I'd go as far as knocking on a blasting places door cash in hand and ask them to throw it in with something. Might even get it free-style.
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Yeh, I emailed several places that do media blasting in town with no replys. I wonder if I should leave the details out of the email as probably most places think a kid with a bmx bike probably isn't worth wasting their time on...
I've been too busy with work and I just built up a 2015 Bombtrack Dash and took the stupid fixed gear hub off it and put a Ratchet on it, so that's kept me from working on the Wave C.