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The Street => The Lounge => Topic started by: dude... on August 22, 2014, 10:50:41 PM
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I know most of you dont even give a fuck about current bmx anymore (everyones really good but also pretty boring and samey) but Devin Feil (one of the guys from the pegleg crew-remember their dvd? it was awesome) has recently been putting a lot of comments and stories about his experiences working with OSS and basically what a tool and bully Adam 22 is.
Ive disliked Adam for a long time, hes arrogant, egotistical, immature, and is a pretty horrible person who makes out like hes doing loads of stuff for bmx while at the same time rinsing a load of money off what is essentially other peoples hard work, but anyway, its interesting to hear about some of his actions from first hand experience.
Its also interesting to hear how he alienated so many up and coming riders who he helped gain coverage, but who were worried about speaking out against him in case he used his influence to harm their careers and damage their relationships with their sponsors.
Would be nice if bmx could finally stop being Adams bitch, and kick this chump out of his position of power within the bmx "media". And good on Devin for coming out and saying this stuff publicly
anyway, heres the post
The following is a rundown of how OSS devolved from a company devoted to riding and its crew, into the current mess it is.Could you even imagine if one of TCU’s competitor’s started a clothing line, built a brand up around a core of riders, and then opened up a shop in downtown LA with a website that features no team list or mention at all? Not only is there no team list, the interior of the shop doesn’t feature an image of single person on a bike, OSS or otherwise. It sounds like the type of corporate exploitation that BMX has tried so hard to keep out.
As far as I can tell the current aim of OSS is to build up the brand to the level of a legitimate street wear company and then phase out the BMX aspect of it altogether. Are you aware that OSS has not taken a team trip in over 2 years? I went to the last event at OSS, a Scott Marceau photo show, and not a single OSS team member was in attendance. Wonder why? Because Adam has fed empty promise after empty promise to all of them, and then treated others extremely poorly.
To start with Adam punched Mike Mastroni in the head multiple times, after berating him for months on end. I was in town when this happened, and a whole bunch of us were going out riding with Jeff Z in LA. In addition to Mastroni’s van, Jeff drove his car along and I hopped in there with him and the van followed us. During the ride to the first spot I mentioned to Z that tensions at the house were really escalating and that I felt Mastroni would soon snap due to Adam’s harassment. As we neared our destination, the van inexplicably stopped behind us at an intersection, but since they had the GPS coordinates we kept on going. When the van finally arrived at the spot, the crew poured out, but were uncharacteristically silent. It turns out Adam was fucking with Mike, and Mike punched him Adam in the arm, and then Adam proceeded to pummel Mike’s head until Lee Dennis and others intervened. I discussed this incident with Mike recently and he expressed that it was a true low point in his life, and he seriously considered moving back to Connecticut. Fortunately he landed a job at Volume shortly thereafter, and his involvement with OSS decreased dramatically from that point forward.
If this was the only incident of excessive and unnecessary violence towards the team, maybe it could be chalked up as an isolated incident. However that’s not the case. In March of 2011 I joined Adam22 , Mike Mastroni, Charlie Crumlish, Alex Raban, and Scott Ditchburn on a trip to Austin. We would be staying with a group of girls whom they’d met previously. One of which would develop into being Charlie’s girlfriend. I left trip early, as I had work obligations to return to in Massachusetts, but others recounted the assault that ended Adam’s stay in Austin. Adam and Charlie’s girlfriend got into some sort of argument while they were out a bar. Adam’s response was to latch his hands around her throat and choke her. As you can imagine Adam was no longer welcome where they were staying and drove straight back to Long Beach alone.
The third physical altercation occurred at the OSS house in Long Beach. I was in town once again, and the house had a quite a few people over the house for a party. Adam was constantly messing with Zach Krejmas and his girlfriend and that night was more of the same. Despite the fact the place was trashed, and any hope of a returned security deposit was long gone, Adam flew off the handle over Zach’s girlfriend smoking a cigarette inside the house. He got up off the couch screaming at her and told Zach to “control his bitch.” That’s when Zach walked over looking to calm things down. Adam started swinging his fists, but didn’t manage to connect very hard as Chris Long and Zach’s brother Joel broke it up before it got bad.
Around this time OSS were working on Ruin Your Whole Summer, but the crew wasn’t as enthused with the project as Adam had hoped. Adam’s selfish and ignorant ways had severely diminished any close knit crew vibe that had once existed. A group message was sent out regarding the progress of the video looking to get things back on track. Garrett Reeves and Jake Seeley both said that regrettably they wouldn’t be able to make the DVD a priority. They were both recovering from injuries and had obligations to paying sponsors. Adam accused them of “acting like they are big time.” Seeley was off the team within three months and Garrett didn’t film another clip for the video. It was interesting to see the video released in July of 2013 as a ton of the clips were old and a lot of longstanding members of the crew could hardly care less. To the best of my knowledge the following sections were a bit dated by the release date.
Mastroni - last filmed clips was in SLC in April 2012. 15 months prior to video release.
Garrett Reeves - last filmed clip was at least a year old by video release.
Tate Roskelley - last clip was filmed in SLC in March of 2012. 16 months prior to video release.
Alex Raban - last filmed clip was at least a year old by video release.
Myself - last filmed clip was in California in March of 2012. 16 months prior to video release.
Doesn’t exactly paint a picture of a crew with much enthusiasm for Ruin Your Whole Summer now does it?
Due to all of these transgressions there was a need to infuse new blood into the company. Young guys like Stevie Churchill and Brandon Begin are willing to work their asses off and let Adam profit. Without any written team list it should be a lot easier for him to implement a short term strategy of using riders and moving on from them. If he loved BMX so much, and wanted to support his riders the best he could, he’d surely be proud enough to display their names on the company website.
It’s not like anyone who has ridden for OSS has ever gotten paid for endorsing the brand. I think some people would be surprised to hear a clothing company connected with the “number one website in BMX” has never cut a sponsorship check for any of its riders. Not a single monthly check. Not even for contingency, web or print. Everybody involved did it because we believed in Adam’s vision of the company. As stated in his ESPN interview regarding the launch of the brand “Animal has always inspired me. It's just such a direct manifestation of how Ralph [Sinisi] sees BMX, which is how things should be. No image, it's just all about the riding.” It’s a flat out disgrace to Ralph, Animal, and the entire BMX community for Adam to have ever uttered those words.
I also want to address two likely questions. First being “Why would some of these guys put up with this and not quit.” The answer is simple. Adam is a bully. If you cross him he will do what he can physically or professionally to harm you. A lot of these guys probably worried Adam would smear their names, potentially losing sponsors and exposure. As recently as 4 days ago Adam posted on his twitter the image of a young rider along with the message “This person called me a "shit person" on Instagram. Can somebody who isn't a 12 year old dork talk shit on me plz.” In Adam’s mind this completely absurd response is appropriate way to respond to a preteen’s insults. When asked by Breaks Mag “8 Things I Hate About Vital” part of his answer was “I knew that nobody at Vital would be able to fuck with me when it comes to talking shit so I just popped off and they didn’t really respond and everyone had a good laugh.” Like a typical bully he picks on those he thinks either can’t or won’t stick up for themselves. I accepted the fact that if I spoke out I was risking possible alienation from the industry. If I never make another dime in BMX that is ok with me. I have loved this sport for way too long to keep my mouth shut.
The second thing to address is that a couple of people have asked whether I feel hypocritical for calling Adam and TCU out after years at company? No, absolutely not. TCU and OSS have changed since I joined both companies, and so has my opinion of them. I did my best to contribute in a positive way, and push for changes to improve things further. My suggestions fell on deaf ears and my efforts were in vain. Plenty of people work for individuals/companies and over time they realize they are terrible. Some stick it out. Some move on and don’t say a word. I chose to say something. And I don’t feel hypocritical for doing so.
If riders and companies keep supporting Adam/TCU/OSS they will have years of his wonderful contributions to BMX to look forward to. If anyone out there doubts my claims, there are plenty of witnesses for all of this. Just ask around.
Heres Devon's facebook https://www.facebook.com/devinfeil (https://www.facebook.com/devinfeil), i expect there will be more such stories coming out. Hes posting them on his Instagram as well.
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Gossip gossip gossip
Sounds like the dude went through some shit but he keeps going to not having a team page and shit like not having pictures of riders in a bike shop. That just sounds like his ego showing through there, like his name should be all over a clothing brand because he rides a bike and gets clothes from them. You don't necessarily need a photo of a rider in a bike shop if there are riders behind the counter and bikes on the shelf. I see no problem with a clothing brand wanting to focus on being a clothes brand rather than being stuck in bmx. I actually really don't like it when a brand is *name* BMX and make some shitty tshirts.
Pointing out shit like Stevie Churchill working his ass off and getting nothing just isn't valid. He gets coverage which opens doors. I'm sure most of us saw his edits on TCU before anywhere else.
His complaints would be more interesting if anyone gave a shit about OSS and didn't think A22 was a dick. He's a fucking blogger, like he isn't going to be a dick.
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Is that the dude that rides for Fly? I was just wondering why I don't see his videos anymore.
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it's nonsense really, a22 barely posts on TCU, and all those names mentioned get way more coverage on there than most. the violence aspect, don't know. it's not like riding bmx automatically makes you a good person, and tempers flare.
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why dont these people just man the f**k up? bullying? really...
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This is exactly the reason why Bikeguide doesn't care about TCU.
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I'd rather support Kurt than Adam22; Kurt should post more videos, he's came up to a respectable point in BMX Media and probably doesn't like little boys and exploit them for personal gain.
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So just more proof a22 is an egotistical cunt. Looking forward to Rusty coming in an licking his bumhole in defence
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why dont these people just man the f**k up? bullying? really...
This isn't a very helpful suggestion.
I've followed A22 and TCU from the very start, and he does come across as a dick. His attitude reminds me a lot of the red pill community, those guys who read The Game and then end up becoming social Darwinist lunatics. I've never met him, but judging by the way he comes across online it wouldn't surprise me if most of the post is true.
As an aside, part of the reason for his initial success was the fact that he wasn't afraid to talk shit, and that this was entertaining and refreshing in a community full of people who were too connected to criticise each other. (Remember how the magazines covered new product/video releases a decade ago? They basically just republished the blurb from the box - ironically as TCU becomes part of the establishment, it's doing exactly the same thing).
I would like to see an outlet that has the edge that he had to begin with (i.e. isn't afraid to be outspoken), only run by someone who understands the difference between being a critic and being a bully.
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Also props to Devin for speaking out.
Lol
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Patiently waiting for the new Dig site.
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I would like to see an outlet that has the edge that he had to begin with (i.e. isn't afraid to be outspoken), only run by someone who understands the difference between being a critic and being a bully.
I'm all for an edge, but I couldn't give a fuck about personalities. I'd rather it be about BMX than someone fucking someones girlfriend or being a bully.
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Adam22 sounds like a douchebag. I hope he isn't at Texas toast
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I've followed A22 and TCU from the very start, and he does come across as a dick. His attitude reminds me a lot of the red pill community, those guys who read The Game and then end up becoming social Darwinist lunatics. I've never met him, but judging by the way he comes across online it wouldn't surprise me if most of the post is true.
its like everyone forgot he wrote about how shitty of a person he was when he actually updated that surfingbeans (http://surfingbeans.com/) blog
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Does anyone remember his hardcore blog? world moves fast? Wasn't he claiming straight edge in the early years too?
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I'm all for an edge, but I couldn't give a fuck about personalities. I'd rather it be about BMX than someone fucking someones girlfriend or being a bully.
Yes, this is more or less what I mean. It's basic media ethics. I think it's fine for people to criticise videos, products and even riding styles but getting personal and being a bully is not on (online as much as in real life). My point is that there is space for criticism in the community and that Adam filled that, to a degree, in the early years.
Take the most recent Drew Bezanson video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfy-tEtTDkU) for instance - Drew's a great rider and I watch most of his output, but the way this was edited was atrocious! Slo-mo for most clips and a song that genuinely sent me into a snooze. I'd like to see a blog which calls people out on stuff like this with wit and verve, rather than a) hyping it up ridiculously or b) going the other way and slagging off the filmer's mum or something ridiculous.
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You could call it... BMZ
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Take the most recent Drew Bezanson video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfy-tEtTDkU) for instance - Drew's a great rider and I watch most of his output, but the way this was edited was atrocious! Slo-mo for most clips and a song that genuinely sent me into a snooze. I'd like to see a blog which calls people out on stuff like this with wit and verve, rather than a) hyping it up ridiculously or b) going the other way and slagging off the filmer's mum or something ridiculous.
What about rodeopeanut? - They did call out drew - http://instagram.com/p/rpxvv9lM33/?modal=true and many more...
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The timing couldn't have been better on this. I personally hope that this takes the wind out of his sails and more companies jump to back Dig's new endeavors. They've stayed true to themselves and have portrayed BMX in a great way for forever. To me it seems TCU has been the window to most kids starting out but I don't think it's really been a good influence. The dudes over at Dig have kept it real for a long time.
As for the idea of not getting your clothing company "stuck in BMX" - If the only reason the dude even had the opportunity to start up a clothing and parts brand is solely thanks to BMX, then the only authentic thing is to show it. The human thing is to embrace your roots, not hide them. Adam's been saying all this about showing how cool BMX can be but going off Feil he just might be a bit embarassed about BMX. When it comes down to it, the only reason the industry exists is because of riders. If there weren't people doing insane stuff on little kids' bikes there wouldn't be room for any of the 'lifestyle brands'. One has to give respect to that.
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Also props to Devin for speaking out.
Lol
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So consuming a mountain of cocaine makes hitting women acceptable? Interesting
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http://thecomeup.com/misc/my-response-to-recent-allegations/
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Run rusty, run
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Full time OSS employee Russell.
I say good for him, theres worse places even if im not a fan of OSS/TCU at all.
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Russell has always come across as a nice, chill, agreeable dude. I wonder if a22 has bullied him too.
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Most of the mouth breathing BMX population probably thinks ripoff "TED" shirts and cocaine fueled assault is funny, so we're stuck with the fuck.
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Not to mention that companies that really don't need the "exposure" of TCU (Fit, S&M, Odyssey, Etnies) are too scared to stand up and say, "this guy isn't helping us, maybe we should channel the money we're paying him for advertising into the actual team, or edits that we can easily put on our own sites". Page views seem to rule all, but if you just stop being lazy and utilize the tools available to you, you'd realize that TCU has been fleecing the holy shit out of BMX for a while now.
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Russell has always come across as a nice, chill, agreeable dude. I wonder if a22 has bullied him too.
Thats what i mean, good for him getting paid but i hope he doesn't have to take shit for it.
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Russell has always come across as a nice, chill, agreeable dude. I wonder if a22 has bullied him too.
Thats what i mean, good for him getting paid but i hope he doesn't have to take shit for it.
I hope he's getting more than $8 an hour
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Just read his reply/apology he doesn't make himself anymore like able, and for the most part I'm gathering these dudes he's around will get shit on and take it for FREE ?? Any one put hands on me or a friend would get fucking dealt with. And Russ white knighting for his boss is pretty good too
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What about rodeopeanut? - They did call out drew - http://instagram.com/p/rpxvv9lM33/?modal=true and many more...
Yeah, these guys are funny and seem to have some idea of taste, nice to see them getting some traction.
As for Adam's response, some of it seemed reasonable and most of it seemed like spin, but whatever he says/people think of him it would be good to see his monopoly eroded.
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All of it was complete spin. He's basically trying to play it all down, attempting to come across as a nice dude who has been misrepresented when he is basically a cunt. Who excuses violence by saying they took a load of cocaine?
I'm much more inclined to believe Devin Feils account, a22 has repeatedly shown himself to be fucking arsehole, and this just goes to further verify that. That TCU, and therefore a22, has so much control in BMX is probably why he is such a dick - power changes people. I imagine he has kids hanging off his nutsack, so doesn't give a fuck about meaningful relationships when he has a line of other people fighting for his attention. Individuals are disposable to him.
What is going on with Digs new website, as this seems to keep popping up? If it is going to be a competitor to TCU then hopefully it kicks off and a22 goes bust. Dig has been awesome in BMX for decades.
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All that drug talk aka "I've been on some shit" all the time is just annoying. Like it's no big deal to choke a girl while being on cocain.
Don't know him personally, so I stay away from judging him, but from a customer or business perspective I'd rather deal with someone else.
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Reading the comments of the confession is disparaging. Just because he admits that the story is valid does not mean absolution. Is dog going to be a paid thing? I'd like to never give a page hit to thecumdump again.
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I've done mountains of gear and would never dream of hitting a bird.
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Dr. that's because you're not a giant pile of shit.
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To his credit, at least this made him talk things over with said girl who he was violent against and dude checked himself at least a bit.
I must admit after reading both sides of the story I felt I slightly jumped the gun. I don't pride myself on wishing bad on anyone's endeavors. People do make mistakes and I actually admire the fact that he can admit his faults, albeit not in a humble fashion. If you look at both sides of the story though, you can definitely understand how the relationship between Devin and him went sour. I wouldn't ever condone the type of smear campaign that this has blown up to be. It's just one dude Devin's going up against and I think airing all his dirty laundry like this is simply in bad taste. It's easy for all of us watching to condemn but all of us have our own stuff to deal with so I find it more honest towards oneself to refrain from judging at a distance. Admitting he was on drugs of course doesn't give absolution but I don't think he's quite the monster he's made out to be either.
Everyone has issues. It's just the bad stuff always has the potential to get magnified times over when one's put in a position of influence. Of course it adds fuel to fire if you don't have a level head to begin with but getting recognition can really skew anyone's perspectives.
Will wait and see how this pans out.
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To his credit, at least this made him talk things over with said girl who he was violent against and dude checked himself at least a bit.
The response A22 said he got from the reconciliation with Charlie's girlfriend and the response Devin got from her and posted on his instagram are pretty different. It's all fucking bullshit, it's like watching a teen TV drama.
I can't stand Adam. The sad part of all this is that there's only a few now that will remember a time before TCU, it's dominated for so long that he could shit on a baby and no one would give a fuck.
Fuck him, right in the pussy.
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Reading the comments of the confession is disparaging. Just because he admits that the story is valid does not mean absolution. Is dog going to be a paid thing? I'd like to never give a page hit to thecumdump again.
Yeah totally! This (http://thecomeup.com/) site is way better anyway
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"Life of A22. Coming this winter to MTV."
We all know he's a dickhead I didn't need Devin's exposé to know that.
Anyway, how's BG nowadays? Whatever's left of it...
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Alice, the Europeans run and thus ruined it.
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Alice, the Europeans run and thus ruined it.
Was it the saltiness that ruined BG?
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Alice, the Europeans run and thus ruined it.
Was it the saltiness that ruined BG?
Pretty sure it was when he board got changed, and it had a ton of bugs. I didn't even vista the site for a year after it was "upgraded".
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Alice, the Europeans run and thus ruined it.
Was it the saltiness that ruined BG?
Pretty sure it was when he board got changed, and it had a ton of bugs. I didn't even vista the site for a year after it was "upgraded".
All bad. I miss Maurice Snail and Big Poppa Nuts and his Grease vs BB bearings nonsense
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First I'd like to address the fights and violence as they're the most serious and damning charges.
Yep, I did all that.
Also, is Charlie still living with him or did I read that wrong? That's got to be awkward.
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http://blog.defgrip.net/2014/08/qa-will-smyth-discusses-digs-new-direction/
I would pay to get a download overnight of a new issue. Could be really neat. A couple articles, a bunch of great photos, a video (maybe something more substantial than the wed edit) and an interview would satiate me for the month.
Is too much media a good thing? Back when I started riding there was Ride US as a bi monthly thing I could find in grocery stores, then the advent of more and more videos (on vhs) and onto the internet age. Now, its absurd the amount of quality content you can find daily! Would you and I along with the rest of our community be better off without so much? Overload and desensitization is my observation on that.
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Alice, the Europeans run and thus ruined it.
yeehaww
(http://www.notbeinggoverned.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/burning-american-flag.jpg)
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http://blog.defgrip.net/2014/08/qa-will-smyth-discusses-digs-new-direction/
I would pay to get a download overnight of a new issue. Could be really neat. A couple articles, a bunch of great photos, a video (maybe something more substantial than the wed edit) and an interview would satiate me for the month.
Is too much media a good thing? Back when I started riding there was Ride US as a bi monthly thing I could find in grocery stores, then the advent of more and more videos (on vhs) and onto the internet age. Now, its absurd the amount of quality content you can find daily! Would you and I along with the rest of our community be better off without so much? Overload and desensitization is my observation on that.
This section from the interview is excellent:
"We’ve been approaching advertising a little differently too with our main focus being on a limited number of selective brands. We’re not opening our ad space up to anyone and everyone because we’d never do that with our editorial space (and we’re asking you to look at both). We only want you to see what we consider to be the best of what’s out there. There’s way too many companies in BMX and in my opinion there’s a lot that don’t bring much to the table. If anything they’re just getting in the way of those legit brands that do the good stuff and help keep BMX progressive, cool, interesting and fun."
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yeehaww
(http://www.notbeinggoverned.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/burning-american-flag.jpg)
Quoted for truth.
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I wonder if A22 donkey punches Stevie
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Russell has always come across as a nice, chill, agreeable dude. I wonder if a22 has bullied him too.
Thats what i mean, good for him getting paid but i hope he doesn't have to take shit for it.
I hope he's getting more than $8 an hour
Lol well minimum wage went up to $9, so there you go.
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Alice, the Europeans run and thus ruined it.
yeehaww
(http://www.notbeinggoverned.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/burning-american-flag.jpg)
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Yea yea, you and your southern hemisphere friends can be included in that ruling bg comment.
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We're Anglo-Saxon. It's in our nature to lay claim to other peoples shit.
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Manifest Destiny on bg? Why, the social implications are stunning!
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Rusty spent months sucking dick via IG posts in order to finally get a job at the OSS store, pretty sure he couldn't care less if he's just making minimum wage.
Respect the hustle.
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At least he is in the position to make connections. That still does leaving him making minimum wage anywhere in the same industry.
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Rusty spent months sucking dick via IG posts in order to finally get a job at the OSS store, pretty sure he couldn't care less if he's just making minimum wage.
Respect the hustle.
he used to also openly berate adam on here and on his various blogs and social media outlets, back when impressing bg was a priority over impressing a22. hes not a bad kid but hes just another comeup arse nugget now which is a shame
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Arse nugget deserves a green box
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Rusty spent months sucking dick via IG posts in order to finally get a job at the OSS store, pretty sure he couldn't care less if he's just making minimum wage.
Respect the hustle.
he used to also openly berate adam on here and on his various blogs and social media outlets, back when impressing bg was a priority over impressing a22. hes not a bad kid but hes just another comeup arse nugget now which is a shame
yeah has to put up with semendemon22 but on the flip side it seems get to hang with some other pretty cool dudes.
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All punches have been pulled from Feil's social media. Wonder what prompted him to reconsider.
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The girl that Adam punched ask him to remove them
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Bent.
I read all a22's boring posts in fatheads voice, doing the mouth thing at the end of every sentence.
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Back to business as usual. Which means BMX circling the fucking drain.
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I read both ends of this, and then questioned why I gave a shit in the first place. I don't ride anymore, nor do half the guys commenting on this post.
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Fuck off dick, we all like some drama every now and then haha
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I read both ends of this, and then questioned why I gave a shit in the first place. I don't ride anymore, nor do half the guys commenting on this post.
I ride and I still ask why I gave a shit
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I'd rather support Kurt than Adam22; Kurt should post more videos, he's came up to a respectable point in BMX Media and probably doesn't like little boys and exploit them for personal gain.
... I post a lot of videos everyday... http://www.bmxunion.com/blog/category/daily/ ... Front page is original / advertiser content but we generally post like 30 things a day in the daily section from big name pros to guys who hit us up hoping to get their name out there.
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http://blog.defgrip.net/2014/08/qa-will-smyth-discusses-digs-new-direction/
I would pay to get a download overnight of a new issue. Could be really neat. A couple articles, a bunch of great photos, a video (maybe something more substantial than the wed edit) and an interview would satiate me for the month.
Is too much media a good thing? Back when I started riding there was Ride US as a bi monthly thing I could find in grocery stores, then the advent of more and more videos (on vhs) and onto the internet age. Now, its absurd the amount of quality content you can find daily! Would you and I along with the rest of our community be better off without so much? Overload and desensitization is my observation on that.
This section from the interview is excellent:
"We’ve been approaching advertising a little differently too with our main focus being on a limited number of selective brands. We’re not opening our ad space up to anyone and everyone because we’d never do that with our editorial space (and we’re asking you to look at both). We only want you to see what we consider to be the best of what’s out there. There’s way too many companies in BMX and in my opinion there’s a lot that don’t bring much to the table. If anything they’re just getting in the way of those legit brands that do the good stuff and help keep BMX progressive, cool, interesting and fun."
DIG's direction is definitely going to be awesome. I know the advertising dollars are a struggle to find, but I think they are doing it right by limiting things and not taking on shitty brands just for the money. I learned A LOT from Will during my two years with DIG and it has carried over a lot to The Union. Shit, I even offered to do product content for them again when the new site drops if that's something they need help with (I used to write their products column in every issue I had words in) because I'm so supportive of it. I'm more than stoked to see where things go with it. They have a STACKED crew of photographers, filmers and writers. If they can get the original content flowing, they will be able to convince brands to spend more money with them over other sites. That's always been my goal with my site, just the advertising dollars aren't there and I refuse to ask people to work for free. That's why 98% of the content is coming from me. I've paid for every video and if I ask a photographer for photos, I pay for them. There's even a few photographers who started out for free who I eventually started paying and they ended up getting a lot of work. It's how it needs to be done to continue to grow things for the sport. I look forward to the future.
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DIG will be good, but they need to make sure that they frequently update content as well.
Nothing worse than content that goes stale after a week of no updates.
Kids wanna see new shit every 4 hours, not days.
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Kurt: give examples of shitty brands, please
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Kurt: give examples of shitty brands, please
All those Euro brands firing out identical frames and completes with teams full of park guys with neck tattoos.
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Kurt: give examples of shitty brands, please
All those Euro brands firing out identical frames and completes with teams full of park guys with neck tattoos.
Fairly shitty.
Also, brands that are all "Keep it local" whilst depending on Danscomp for 60 percent of their sales.
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Kurt: give examples of shitty brands, please
Rocker BMX. lol
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That TaylorMade company sounds promising :-[
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That TaylorMade company sounds promising :-[
It's owned/funded or whatever by the people who make Rocker BMX... :-\
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Alienation. Pretty much most of what was offered at sidewall.
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That TaylorMade company sounds promising :-[
It's owned/funded or whatever by the people who make Rocker BMX... :-\
How does that guy have 50K followers on instagram?! I was going to say using his name in a company would be the worst idea ever, but maybe there are enough little kids that will his shit. I dont know, but I will foreven know his as the person that got ANAYALATED
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They said he paid for followers
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Kurt: give examples of shitty brands, please
All those Euro brands firing out identical frames and completes with teams full of park guys with neck tattoos.
Fairly shitty.
Also, brands that are all "Keep it local" whilst depending on Danscomp for 60 percent of their sales.
LOL, isn't that like the majority of BMX brands?
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USA based brands for life yoo
i'v been preaching adams shit intentios for a while now, however i now feel everyone deserves a second chance. what a fucking guy. definitely belongs in a bmx crew full of trees.
sometimes what a community needs is a hard hand to put in some order, a22 shouldnt be it, he just rides eastern parts on his bike.
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wat
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USA based brands for life yoo
i'v been preaching adams shit intentios for a while now, however i now feel everyone deserves a second chance. what a fucking guy. definitely belongs in a bmx crew full of trees.
sometimes what a community needs is a hard hand to put in some order, a22 shouldnt be it, he just rides eastern parts on his bike.
I'll have what he's drinking
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Rusty is a good dude, you guys are just haterzzz.
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He's the punk in the brand
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He's the punk in the brand
Oh you...:D
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Stevie Churchill tried to fight my best friend the other night. LOLZ were had.
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They said he paid for followers
That would explain everything lol
Stevie Churchill tried to fight my best friend the other night. LOLZ were had.
Details. The story sounds funny as fuck. I can just imagine the ball of muscle tensing up
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Was it at the OSS street ride?
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Just so you know Ian Schwartz in Loyola first video is better than this thread and adam22 can kissy black ass.
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Jesus, how many people in this thread are drunk posting?
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Is there any news on why he took it all down yet?
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Bmxboard were talking about a lawsuit.
http://www.bmxboard.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=044149
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http://www.bmxboard.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=044944 (http://www.bmxboard.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=044944)
Originally posted by Charka:
do you finger your butt often or just once? and does it feel good when you do it?
I guess I did it like 2-3 times in the shower when i was 17 ( i'm 22 now ). It felt allright. It didn't hurt or anything. I just did it in the shower while I was cleaning out my ass crack when it was all soaped up because a bunch of the older dudes who rode bmx in NH used to talk about doing it, and I figured I'd see what it was like. I haven't done it in at least 4 years, it's just not very interesting.
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Embarrassing. Just embarrassing.
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Is Adam a dick? Yep.
Does he make himself look bad? Yep.
Does he still have a successful bmx site for 15 year olds who like drama? Yep.
Do I give any fucks at all? Nope.
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then dont post in here?
guys, hey guys, look guys, i dont care about this issue at all, guys, i need to make sure you to know how i dont care
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27VkYHKo_Yk&list=PLgvL-c0MsaoBZW2HDfaOeqQrx_PtaF63y
This video actually made me pissed and laugh at the same time
-churchhill or w.e doing the uglies lines possible, and acting like a cocky lil shit
-a22 LOL
-rusty LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27VkYHKo_Yk&list=PLgvL-c0MsaoBZW2HDfaOeqQrx_PtaF63y
This video actually made me pissed and laugh at the same time
-churchhill or w.e doing the uglies lines possible, and acting like a cocky lil shit
-a22 LOL
-rusty LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
lol at Rusty's cameo.
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Was a22 smoking drugs? what a badass
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When did everyone start hating on Russel? Always thought he was cool on here.
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When did everyone start hating on Russel? Always thought he was cool on here.
I like Russell
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When did everyone start hating on Russel? Always thought he was cool on here.
when he started chowing down super hard on adams peenor to land a job at the oss shop
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I am down with the Russle Sprouts.
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Ha everyone has given him shit forever. He got a bit more respect as he got older but we know the young whippersnapper he was and it is not soon forgotten.
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This is going to be my one post in here.
I did not "suck" anyone's dick to land a job at OSSLA. Prior to working here I had over 2 years experience working at a skate/bike shop, so when I got the offer to intern at OSS I jumped at it. As soon as I learned they were going to be opening a shop in LA, yes I did reach out to Adam and offer help in anyway because LA seriously lacks resources such as a local bike shop for the BMX community. OSS/TCU is a team of people working on it, it's not just Adam sitting at his throne shouting out orders to his peasants. I call serious bullshit on anyone saying Adam is doing bad for BMX. If you actually watched the video from our jam you would see that there were tons of bike riders from all over Southern California just to come ride with us. It means a lot to me to make sure all these fellow riders are having a good time, so if "sucking off" Adam or whoever gets me there than fuck it. I could be "sucking off" some dickhead at a McDonalds to get a .25 cent raise but I'm not. I'm helping this sport that I(and a lot of you guys....at one point in time) love so much.
At least I can sleep sound knowing I'm actually working towards something special to me and many others and not just on a message board making false accusations or leading a propaganda campaign.
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lol shut up
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Lol have fun making minimum at a bike shop Rusty. This talk of "working towards a dream" is gay.
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I did not "suck" anyone's dick to land a job at OSSLA.
if "sucking off" Adam or whoever gets me there than fuck it.
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That's sweet. Fuck dragging your corpse to work everyday. Right on Rusty, right on.
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Yeah, right on. Rusty is alright. A22 isn't.
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a22 should keep to running things locally, not pushing his influence over the wider bmx sphere
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^Exactly. Helping a local scene out with a shop dedicated to BMX, throwing jams and rides, and promoting the scene is great. We have one here that is beloved by the entire BMX scene for those exact reasons. I don't think anyone is really criticizing that aspect (although considering your name's been thrown around on this thread I can see why'd you'd be defensive).
However, the vast majority of us are not in LA, nor does A22's influence on a local scene effect us in any way. To us, and to a good portion of BMX, he's still a douchebag keyboard jockey bordering on egomania.
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When did everyone start hating on Russel? Always thought he was cool on here.
It's not hate, hating on someone in a forum is pointless. We are just having some lols, because the video timing was perfect and this
I did not "suck" anyone's dick to land a job at OSSLA.
if "sucking off" Adam or whoever gets me there than fuck it.
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then dont post in here?
guys, hey guys, look guys, i dont care about this issue at all, guys, i need to make sure you to know how i dont care
It is worth pointing out how everyone loves to take part in the teenage girl drama, but complains about the teenage girl drama.
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I'm helping this sport that I(and a lot of you guys....at one point in time) love so much.
Don't kid yourself and think you're doing anything for the sport by working as a sales person at a BMX shop. Don't take it too serious and have fun. Just enjoy it for what it is.
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I thought Rusty's post was good, barring the admission of dick sucking.
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if i hadnt seen many instances of where you (rusty) tried to call out adam on both comments on the come up and on one of adams many shitty personal blogs, then i wouldnt have called you out so hard. but you went from directly talking shit to adam online to try and get brownie points on here, to suddenly being the unofficial tcu/oss spokesperson/no1 fan and working in the shop.
you were the one badmouthing adam on a message board not so long ago and yet now oss shop is something "special" to you. i know your not a bad kid or anything, and im happy for you that you get job satisfaction from working in a bike shop (im serious, thinking of the so it happened in the bike shop one time thread stories-some bike shops suck hard), but face facts that outside of LA, your now boss whom you now decide to defend so passionately is reviled by many because of his actions in the wider sphere of bmx.
also you changed your attitude pretty sharply cos you gettin paid and get to hang out with pros, which shows a lack of integrity. at least you can take criticism from random strangers online better than your boss can
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjwVdShVRn0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjwVdShVRn0)
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it's not a lack of integrity, rusty went to the shop, liked what he saw and who was there and asked if he could help. people can change their minds, especially if you have never met the people involved.
that said, a22 touting that fight video around like it's something to be proud of is fucking shit.
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Helping a local scene out with a shop dedicated to BMX, throwing jams and rides, and promoting the scene is great.
Coming to a street near you, Meatco Sweet Rides (no bmx/bike reference so i can reinvent myself as a scooter/extreme pogo shop when the bottom innevitably falls out of this shit), rinsing the fuck out of your wallets with a load of old '11 stock i bought up from mongoose and tshirts direct from india.
'holy shit meat, you're such a good guy!!!!111111'
Pay for a photographer and advert in ride? Fuck no ill go to the effort (ie name a time and place) of organising a jam and get a 4 page spread for fuck all. Just throw some meatco shirts (seconds, stained with childrens tears) and meatco stickers, so all you poor cunts can be a walking billboard to earn me more precious money.
'wow meat, you're the ghandi of bmx, we love you, etcetcetc'
Want to join the flow team?
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Can I have a job? Will you be offering a good pension scheme?
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Can I have a sweet ride on your meatco?
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Bikeguide stickers may have never happened, but meatco stickers should.
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But I thought we aren't meant to talk about BG. So we could only have stickers hidden
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Bikeguide stickers may have never happened, but meatco stickers should.
I'd be all about this
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This asshole is almost over and out in BMX right?
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One can hope.
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Nope, everyone seemingly forgot/got over it when he posted on his site confirming all of Devon's stories, but passed them off as the result of being too high.
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Now that Dig's website is up and kicking ass daily, does anyone really care about Adam22?
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snail speed and half foot high rails, seems legit.
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I haven't given his site one hit and have used Dig.
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Bill Cosby ain't got nothing on Adam 22
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The fact that few people here check TCU relates in no way to how it's doing overall.
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Dig has 30,000 Instagram followers. TCU has 121,000. The money is in the kids and completes everybody knows this that has half a brain in the industry. Yes dig is a thousand times better in everyway but TCU will always have numbers because it's cooler to the 14 year old kids that love shitty trends. Dig can say they choose who runs ads on their website but Adam will laugh all the way to the bank.
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Its too bad that the new crop of bmx kids don't give a fuck about anything since its sorta got its own subculture. Back when I had to ride home 20 miles up hill on flat tires through the snow, there was the Taj de résistance where no one wanted to support mtb/bmx manufacturers and did what they could about supporting rider owned. I would be elated to see that there was the equivalent of that now. Be it that this dude is the mtb manufacturer and to laugh him out of the whole.
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and joining a BMX conglomerate to manufacture and sell non BMX bikes... I'm fully aware of the tragedy of my fallen childhood hero.
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http://www.theatavism.tumblr.com (http://www.theatavism.tumblr.com) <- I write about BMX stuff I like. Only throwbacks.
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http://www.theatavism.tumblr.com (http://www.theatavism.tumblr.com) <- I write about BMX stuff I like. Only throwbacks.
Lots of good stuff on that blog, dude.
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Its too bad that the new crop of bmx kids don't give a fuck about anything since its sorta got its own subculture. Back when I had to ride home 20 miles up hill on flat tires through the snow, there was the Taj de résistance where no one wanted to support mtb/bmx manufacturers and did what they could about supporting rider owned. I would be elated to see that there was the equivalent of that now. Be it that this dude is the mtb manufacturer and to laugh him out of the whole.
Taj starting riding for Giant was the straw that broke the rider-owned camels back.
and joining a BMX conglomerate to manufacture and sell non BMX bikes... I'm fully aware of the tragedy of my fallen childhood hero.
No way you can slag off Taj for the decisions he made, he is not responsible for looking after BMX.
I guaran-fucking-tee that he has "put in" waaaaaay more than his fair share to BMX including his spine... and that "BMX conglomerate" and Taj are the reason we have things like Texas Toast.
:)
G.
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http://www.theatavism.tumblr.com (http://www.theatavism.tumblr.com) <- I write about BMX stuff I like. Only throwbacks.
Lots of good stuff on that blog, dude.
thanks!
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Its too bad that the new crop of bmx kids don't give a fuck about anything since its sorta got its own subculture. Back when I had to ride home 20 miles up hill on flat tires through the snow, there was the Taj de résistance where no one wanted to support mtb/bmx manufacturers and did what they could about supporting rider owned. I would be elated to see that there was the equivalent of that now. Be it that this dude is the mtb manufacturer and to laugh him out of the whole.
Taj starting riding for Giant was the straw that broke the rider-owned camels back.
and joining a BMX conglomerate to manufacture and sell non BMX bikes... I'm fully aware of the tragedy of my fallen childhood hero.
No way you can slag off Taj for the decisions he made, he is not responsible for looking after BMX.
I guaran-fucking-tee that he has "put in" waaaaaay more than his fair share to BMX including his spine... and that "BMX conglomerate" and Taj are the reason we have things like Texas Toast.
:)
G.
I was just messing, Taj is the best.