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The Street => The Bike Shop => Topic started by: Tubes6al4v on November 14, 2009, 01:40:01 PM

Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 14, 2009, 01:40:01 PM
UPDATE: The BMX wiki is currently up at www.bmx-u.com (http://www.bmx-u.com) Please contribute what you can. Even just a photo, or other work to be edited, it all helps. We may move this to BG later on, but we'll have to see.
Contact info: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnwRtvUPvy5CdEtCUE1hODRnUDVUbUl0aldkTmo3bVE&hl=en (https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnwRtvUPvy5CdEtCUE1hODRnUDVUbUl0aldkTmo3bVE&hl=en)
Some Links: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnwRtvUPvy5CdEw0QjNGc1FwUWo0WTN2M056X2V6clE&hl=en (https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnwRtvUPvy5CdEw0QjNGc1FwUWo0WTN2M056X2V6clE&hl=en)
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[Original Post]

One of the things I have always enjoyed about bikeguide is that we can get a good dialog going about some of the more in-depth parts (like helicoils, etc). At the same time, I see a lot of reoccurring topics. The stickies help, but if we were to cover all of the answered maintenance questions, that list would be far too long.

So, what if we started building a wiki with answers we come up with. Hopefully we could link to maintenance videos on Youtube (because, lets face it, people prefer watching videos to reading...) I am not sure if there are restrictions on the number of photos, but if we find a way around that, we could use it to keep an up-to-date listing of interesting parts (like freecoasters) without having to put pressure on one person to keep things up.

Anyway, let me know what you guys think. I don't have any experience with Wikis, so help is very much appreciated. I opened http://bmxtech.wikispaces.com/ (http://bmxtech.wikispaces.com/) as a test. If you have a better host in mind, please start it, or suggest it.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Allatt on November 14, 2009, 01:44:16 PM
this would be for sure a sweet thing if its done right. sort of how i presume bikeguide was going to be
(judging from the articles on the main page)
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 14, 2009, 01:51:05 PM
I think that was what sheep had originally intended, but the forums took over so much of the maintenance and cost. He probably ran into the same issue that Bunky and I had/have with free-coaster.com  only one person does the work. I am hoping a wiki can make it a more collaborative effort. Maybe we can have the discussions here on BG...
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: JohnW on November 14, 2009, 01:51:18 PM
I think we should also do a comprehensive part/frame/bike list as well on it.  That would be really good for people buying outdated parts they can't seem to find any info on.  Winstanleys used to keep all the old shit listed, but they purged it a few months ago.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Allatt on November 14, 2009, 01:54:41 PM
should probs just keep it to maintainance john w
some other guy has the parts thing going (i saw a thread on here few days ago).
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 14, 2009, 02:00:59 PM
If someone is already doing a comprehensive list, that would be a great start. Is it a collaborative thing (i.e. wiki), or just a site? If nothing else, we should link to the list. And if he would like to export his work to the wiki, who's going to complain?

I thought about the list thing, but there is a lot to keep up with. Hopefully we could get the companies/fans to do the listing themselves. Maybe work with VitalBMX to get more parts listed in their reviews section and work with them... just throwing out ideas here.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: CARBON on November 14, 2009, 02:08:22 PM
The best thing about a true wiki is that anyone can update anything. If it gets popular and a lot of people contribute it could turn into something pretty good.

It's also great for all the questions that new riders are probably afraid to ask on here... What does female axle mean? What's the difference between a freewheel and a cassette?

I like this idea.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Big Ben on November 14, 2009, 02:44:56 PM
youd need to have a few people moderating it carefully, but if you put in the effort and write up a few articles to start it up, it could be very useful
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 14, 2009, 03:13:02 PM
Wikia has a bit of a learning curve to it. Kind of a bummer. Let's try bmxtech.wikispaces.com which supports external links, and supposedly blog import...
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: CARBON on November 14, 2009, 03:30:36 PM
I have access to the software that runs wikipedia.org and the bandwidth to run it.

All we need is a couple of people who are willing to moderate. I'm willing to put in the work to get it started.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: JohnW on November 14, 2009, 03:35:14 PM
Quote from: CARBON;3137511
I have access to the software that runs wikipedia.org and the bandwidth to run it.

All we need is a couple of people who are willing to moderate. I'm willing to put in the work to get it started.


I'm definitely willing to help out with moderating.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Big Ben on November 14, 2009, 03:36:41 PM
ill do what i can when im not working. you should start by making a list of topics you want to cover and making the pages for them so you can then get them filled in when you can
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: blueee on November 14, 2009, 03:49:11 PM
some dumb kid will break a part and delete a whole wiki entry replacing it with profile sucks cuase thier cranks got a bit of wobble
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: CARBON on November 14, 2009, 03:56:43 PM
Quote from: bluemeate;3137529
some dumb kid will break a part and delete a whole wiki entry replacing it with profile sucks cuase thier cranks got a bit of wobble


They way the wikipedia software works is that it keeps track of every change that happens to an entry.

If somebody deletes an entry or messes something up it's a one second job... literaly one click, to restore the post back to any of it's previous versions.

Wikipedia has been through way worse problems and the software has been updated over the years to deal with them.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 14, 2009, 04:01:41 PM
Carbon, it'd be great if you could do that. I definitely would like to moderate as well. Does that software allow embedded Youtube videos?
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: CARBON on November 14, 2009, 04:15:56 PM
Yeah the software has extensions so you can add custom tags. A YouTube tag is one of them.

I'll look into setting something up.

If there are any other people who are willing to chip in to moderate this project let me know.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Eggit2 on November 14, 2009, 04:26:16 PM
Quote from: CARBON;3137511
I have access to the software that runs wikipedia.org and the bandwidth to run it.

All we need is a couple of people who are willing to moderate. I'm willing to put in the work to get it started.
Definitely willing to help moderate.

Quote from: JohnW;3137438
I think we should also do a comprehensive part/frame/bike list as well on it.  That would be really good for people buying outdated parts they can't seem to find any info on.  Winstanleys used to keep all the old shit listed, but they purged it a few months ago.

I don't think an individual page for part would be necessary. But ti would be nice to have a big table of parts and their specs and dimensions.

I talked to the late Sheldon Brown about the idea a few years ago. He himself did not want to create a wiki, he said he wanted to maintain complete control over his website. He did say that if I made one I could use some of the articles from his site though. Sheldon Brown is definitely a good resource that we can tap into to flesh out the wiki and get it started.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Ride2Live2Ride on November 14, 2009, 04:29:12 PM
There is already this section....
http://www.bikeguide.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44

I was going to get paid to make a series of tech articles for a site, but it folded before I got too far on that project. I have started to make these though...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2653/4079932048_250baf0116.jpg)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29414553@N02/4079932048/

Ebook now online!
http://issuu.com/busato/docs/profiletech
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 14, 2009, 04:39:27 PM
Very nice Ride, I hope we can see some of your work in the wiki.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: blueee on November 14, 2009, 05:10:48 PM
http://www.anythingbmx.com
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: CARBON on November 14, 2009, 05:26:34 PM
There are lots of sites that have tried this kind of thing but I like the idea of a colaborative site where everyone can contribute. Not just one person runing the site alone who may be biased or might not have time to do everything.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Eggit2 on November 14, 2009, 06:24:41 PM
Yep, a wiki is definitely the way to go for this type of thing. A group effort can do so much more than a single person.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: JohnW on November 14, 2009, 06:31:21 PM
When it's up, let me know and I'll help moderate.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Allah on November 14, 2009, 09:04:30 PM
Why not just add parts and knowledge to actual wikipedia?
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: JohnW on November 14, 2009, 09:10:32 PM
Quote from: Allah;3137708
Why not just add parts and knowledge to actual wikipedia?


Some dumbass would probably fuck it up, and we're better off where people who actually have knowledge about BMX can be in control - unlike wikipedia mods.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Eggit2 on November 14, 2009, 09:14:45 PM
There are many reason why it can't just be added to wikipedia. Wikipedia dislikes anything that is and opinion and not fact, some of the articles like the best way to put on grips for example would never fly. Wikipedia is also some what against in depth niche articles. Think of it this way, anything you wouldn't find in a hard copy Encyclopedia doesn't really belong on wikipedia. Sure you could probably put a page up explaining the various types of bicycles and their components, but if you wanted to make a page about assembling and maintaining a freecoaster hub it would get taken down.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: couch on November 14, 2009, 09:37:41 PM
I'm down to help out if I can.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: big_papa_nuts on November 14, 2009, 10:13:12 PM
I think the major problem with this is that people don't care for one reason or another. Some just wanna ride, others focus on their bike or niche to much, and most don't even pay attention.

That's why I like BG, it's just a big conversation.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 15, 2009, 03:59:52 PM
I am glad to see a good number of people interested in making this work. I think to gain good traction, we'll have to get the basics out of the way. Though there is probably a good amount of stuff out there on the net we could use. Please post up any Howto's, videos, etc. that you know of. I am building a list of articles we could do. I'll post as we get further along.

RideBMX guide to freecoasters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12I8iK12oqA)
Basic BMX assembly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyOUS9FOcoU)
BMX assembly by a Flat Cat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqOSRGNO84Y)
990 Brake install (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waX3p7oFTmM&feature=fvw)
Gyro Install (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UVBCYWjN5o)

A bunch of stuff from VitalBMX. Perhaps we can use these as well... http://www.vitalbmx.com/videos/techtips#scope=tech_tips&page=1
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Ben Dover on November 15, 2009, 04:06:26 PM
I am interested.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: blueee on November 15, 2009, 04:14:03 PM
has anyone ever clicked that bmxr.org ad?

i have
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 15, 2009, 05:44:00 PM
Yeah, I clicked that. I was really hoping it would be like MTBR, but the forum format is really annoying. That's why I'd like to see Vital expand their review section.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: super_chief on November 15, 2009, 07:16:39 PM
Sounds good. Tubes produces some solid input.

I'll contribute
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: DnixJDP on November 16, 2009, 11:34:23 AM
This is a great idea.  I'd be willing to help out with anything I can.  I think that sheep should set up a sub domain on bikeguide (wiki.bikeguide.org), that is, if he has the extra bandwidth.  I'd be more than willing to install a wiki application, and make a theme for it so it fits with BMX.  I know that there are a few other designers/developers on here, so I know that they could help with that as well.  One thing that would worry me about this wiki though, is that people who don't particularly like bikeguide, can just edit it however they feel.  A good way to combat this would to hook the login from the forums to the wiki page, so that only bikeguide members can edit the page.  Don't get me wrong, I know that it would be more thorough with more people, but then one little punk could just come in and wipe out everything.  We could also ditch the login idea and just have comprehensive back-ups, probably with Cron, unless someone knows of a wiki app that does this automatically.  I think bikeguide should defiantly go through with this idea.  Good job OP.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Eggit2 on November 16, 2009, 11:40:08 AM
Id make another donation for a wiki.bikeguide.org

With some diligence, vandalism isn't an issue. You can just periodically check the changelog and restore and vandalized articles.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: couch on November 16, 2009, 12:32:03 PM
I'm down to donate some cash if needed to host, CAD work if needed to help illustrate and/or info if needed. I haven't posted in here much but I am very interested.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: super_chief on November 16, 2009, 12:34:12 PM
I'll get a pot of coffee going
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Eggit2 on November 16, 2009, 12:55:43 PM
Even if we don't get get it hosted here, it would be cool if sheep could throw a link up on the main page, and onto the title bar of the forums.
Barring that we should chip in for an ad banner here.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Corbz on November 16, 2009, 12:57:45 PM
I back this idea, and am willing to help if I can.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: super_chief on November 16, 2009, 01:05:46 PM
fuck there's only decaf

*grumbles*
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: DnixJDP on November 16, 2009, 01:33:46 PM
Quote from: super_chief;3139064
fuck there's only decaf

*grumbles*


Well, I guess I'll grab some coffee.  I see some late nights coming up for the people who help out on this one.  It needs to be done.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 16, 2009, 11:31:21 PM
I am glad to see so many of the more respected members of BG interested in this! I made a spreadsheet listing different components and potential articles for them. Please edit, add, remove, change wording, whatever you feel needs doing. If you know a good article or video for something already, post a link with the word "done" under either article or video.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnwRtvUPvy5CdEw0QjNGc1FwUWo0WTN2M056X2V6clE&hl=en
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: couch on November 16, 2009, 11:54:10 PM
I just faced some new forks I got for a new bike I'm building.... I should have snapped some photos :mad2:
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: super_chief on November 17, 2009, 12:32:06 AM
G'damn thats an assload of work.

*scrubs hands and dons surgical mask*
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: big_papa_nuts on November 17, 2009, 12:59:18 AM
Lacing 36 to 48 and viseversa:
Don't bother. The end.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: couch on November 17, 2009, 01:20:35 AM
A lot of the subjects in the spreadsheet can be filled with threads found in the common questions and former stickies area.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Ben Dover on November 17, 2009, 06:23:25 AM
Would drilling and tapping a regular profile for the GDH bolts be of any use? I only have pictures comparing the size of the bolts and after pictures of the spindle...

Also since I've now got an Elementary I could take some pretty pictures of how to install it?
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: couch on November 17, 2009, 09:39:52 AM
Quote from: Andras;3139701
Would drilling and tapping a regular profile for the GDH bolts be of any use? I only have pictures comparing the size of the bolts and after pictures of the spindle...

Also since I've now got an Elementary I could take some pretty pictures of how to install it?


As long as the GDH minor is larger than the original major it will work.

Might as well start snapping photos, it wouldn't hurt.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 17, 2009, 10:05:14 AM
Yeah couch, I looked at the common stickies list and put some of them up there. I am hoping that a lot of this is already done in one way or another. It'll be a bit of searching the net to fill this in.

Also, if someone is willing to detail a mod or maintenance guide, just do it, it's appreciated. Even the small/trivial stuff helps because someone out there might be wondering, "What if I want to use GDH bolts in my cranks?"
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Ben Dover on November 17, 2009, 10:19:06 AM
The formattings all messed up for me :( Tryed it in FF and Chrome.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 17, 2009, 10:21:55 AM
Andras, I am not sure what to tell you, I just tested it on IE, FF, and Chromium (development build). I can post the list if you'd like.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: DnixJDP on November 17, 2009, 10:42:26 AM
I'm going to be starting the basic Wiki structure of it today.  It is going to be at http://www.legitdigit.com for now, then when we get a real domain, we can just install the application and migrate the database over.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 17, 2009, 11:14:28 AM
Thanks DnixJDP I know that Carbon was also interested in working on getting the wiki up and running. Perhpas we should have a list of potential people who will be working on this project and what their focus will be. As always, edit as needed:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnwRtvUPvy5CdEtCUE1hODRnUDVUbUl0aldkTmo3bVE&hl=en

I was able to find a lot of how-tos out there. So the list may look long, but there are plenty of links: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnwRtvUPvy5CdEw0QjNGc1FwUWo0WTN2M056X2V6clE&hl=en
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: DnixJDP on November 17, 2009, 01:16:37 PM
Well, the wiki app I was using isn't working right, so I'm going to look for some better ones.  If anyone knows of any, that would be very helpful.  I'll make a post in here when I have it all set up.

Also, if sheep reads this post, send me a PM and I'll give you admin credentials for the wiki, so that we can start to get this kind of integrated into a part of BikeGuide.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: DnixJDP on November 17, 2009, 04:10:33 PM
I have a new application now, but my FTP is being gay.  I have it all installed locally, and should have the FTP issue fixed by tomorrow.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Eggit2 on November 17, 2009, 04:36:15 PM
Danscomp is actually a pretty good resource for bearing and thread sizes. I can write up a page with a table of parts and thier dimensions. I can also make a good gyro installation write up but someone else will have to do pics.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: deathrow on November 17, 2009, 05:04:46 PM
I wanna help...
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 17, 2009, 06:33:39 PM
I just got a PM back from Sheep who said that the wiki can be hosted on BG. We'll just need to find some wiki app that integrates well.

Eggit: With Dans and the thread here in BG, we should have most bolts and bearings taken care of. Go ahead and write the Gyro guide. That's the great part about a wiki, pictures can be added later.

Deathrow: have a look at the spreadsheet of different articles to be done and see if you can knock out or even just edit down any. Or, if you know some about wikis, I am sure your help would be appreciated there.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: super_chief on November 17, 2009, 07:08:51 PM
*runs by with scissors*
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: DnixJDP on November 17, 2009, 07:15:49 PM
The wiki app I'd suggest is MediaWiki, It's free, open source, and is the same software that Wikipedia uses.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Eggit2 on November 17, 2009, 08:05:14 PM
MEdia wiki si the one I have experience with, I would suggest it as well. The website is incredibly helpful as far as formatting, making scripts, and things like that go.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: CruJones on November 17, 2009, 11:42:53 PM
Sounds rad to me.  This is mostly what I use BG for... when I have a tech question, I know I can usually find an answer or an opinion using the search function.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Eggit2 on November 20, 2009, 11:34:30 PM
Bump to see where this is at.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Checkerz88 on November 21, 2009, 01:25:48 AM
Woow that seems like a really good idea.. I hope its working out.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 21, 2009, 09:27:13 AM
Right now, it seems the main challenge is getting the wiki part up and running. Please post links, or start threads on ant guides you would like to do.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Aesop Rock on November 25, 2009, 08:42:10 AM
I'd be more than willing to help moderate and will absolutely be contributing as soon as it is up. This was a great idea.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: couch on November 25, 2009, 10:56:52 AM
Any updates with this so far?
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 25, 2009, 11:39:20 PM
Sorry for the delay guys. It seems setting up on BG is having some traction issues. Carbon has offered help to get this hosted on a separate domain to get things going. Expect an update soon. But if you havethe time, please write it out, edit other work. I have been :)
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: CARBON on November 26, 2009, 02:07:32 PM
Things are progressing on my end.

Expect some news soon.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on November 26, 2009, 03:43:50 PM
Thanks to Carbon, the Wiki is up!  http://www.bmx-u.com

Please contribute what you can. Even if it is posting some other work that needs editing.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Brendan O. on November 26, 2009, 03:46:55 PM
Just a quick notice:

On google chrome (4.0.223.16) the menu on the left is located below the contentbox, instead of just next to each other.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: JohnW on November 26, 2009, 03:58:46 PM
I made an account, same as here.  I'm up for being a mod if you want.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: CARBON on November 26, 2009, 05:32:36 PM
Cool man.

The nice thing about the Wiki concept that basically all users are equal. Everyone can add a page, everyone can edit pages.

If you want to help out with monitoring or moderating the best way to help, other than adding content, is to 'watch' pages.

For example if you are an expert in a certain subject you can watch all the pages about that subject to make sure that they remain accurate.

If anyone can help me out with a list of good how-to sites and sites with good tech articles for the 'links' box hit up the discussion (http://www.bmx-u.com/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&action=edit&redlink=1) tab on the home page of BMX-U.

BMX-U.com (http://www.bmx-u.com)
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: DnixJDP on November 27, 2009, 12:53:18 AM
I'm up for designing a theme for the Wiki if you guys want one.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: CARBON on November 27, 2009, 12:34:26 PM
What we are concentrating on now is content.

Tubes6al4v is doing an awesome job uploading all of the content he has collected but we can always use more. Also he has compiled a list on the first page of this post of possible articles.

If anyone has a tech article or a mod they've come up with or just wants to post a description of a part feel free to do so. The possibilities are pretty much endless.

BMX-U.com (http://www.bmx-u.com)
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Ride2Live2Ride on November 29, 2009, 03:31:01 PM
I can help out on the graphical end if you guys want. Perhaps tonight I will see how creative I feel. I will also try to make another ebook shortly, this time on the spanish bb.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: CARBON on November 29, 2009, 06:14:54 PM
More new content would be sweet.

If you could post pages for the ebooks you've done so far that would be awesome.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Ride2Live2Ride on November 29, 2009, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: CARBON;3149571
More new content would be sweet.

If you could post pages for the ebooks you've done so far that would be awesome.

You can ***** those ebooks into the site. As of right now I only have the profile technical done. I will try to have a Spanish bb technical done by tomorrow if I have time.

HTML for profile

<***** src="http://static.issuu.com/webembed/viewers/style1/v1/IssuuViewer.swf" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" menu="false" style="width:600px;height:367px" flashvars="mode=*****&layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Fdark%2Flayout.xml&showFlipBtn=true&documentId=091106195901-6d3f2f95aafb4e278e7bf267077fcac1&docName=profiletech&username=Busato&loadingInfoText=Profile%20Cassette%20Hub%20technical&et=1259541787117&er=34" />

WHY IS 3mb3d censored??????????????????? everwhere where you see ***** it shoudl say e m b e d
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: CARBON on November 29, 2009, 07:41:15 PM
Quote from: Ride2Live2Ride;3149607
You can ***** those ebooks into the site. As of right now I only have the profile technical done. I will try to have a Spanish bb technical done by tomorrow if I have time.

WHY IS 3mb3d censored??????????????????? everwhere where you see ***** it shoudl say e m b e d



Thanks a lot. I'll get that figured out shortly.

So far we have a lot of offers to moderate but Tubes6al4v and you are so far the only ones to really step up with good tech content.

I know there is lots more out there and we'd all appreciate everyone who can lend a hand with adding a page or help with adding to the info on an existing page.

If anyone is thinking of adding something but is new to the whole Wiki thing send me a message and I can walk you through the basics. I'm new to it too and I it works a bit differently than posting on a regular forum but it's not hard to figure out once you get started.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: CARBON on November 29, 2009, 08:48:14 PM
Ok that wasn't super easy but I built a plugin that will ***** Issuu ebooks.

The page is here:

http://www.bmx-u.com/index.php?title=Profile_Cassette_Hub
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Eggit2 on November 29, 2009, 08:49:36 PM
I will get some stuff up in a bit, I have just been super busy and they switched me over to night shifts at work so my sleep schedule is ruined.

And carbon, the media wiki website has a ton fo good guides on editing. It incredibly useful when trying to get the formatting right for something.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Ride2Live2Ride on November 29, 2009, 10:48:46 PM
Thanks carbon, that is perfect. Now I should whip my butt into shape and get working on others. The bad news is that I am limited to the work I did from 2006-2007 as now I am no longer making models of bmx parts. The ideal situation would be to get some add income from a website from companies that want myself to make similar technical booklets for them. I almost had exactly that in late 2007 early 2008 but that fell though.

Are the backgrounds, text and colour completely editable on that site? If so I will make a decent layout for you guys.

Lastly I think it would be a good idea to avoid posting pirated videos on the site.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: CARBON on November 30, 2009, 01:52:25 PM
The more technical info we can get on that site the better. Sometimes stuff about older parts is even more valuable since those older parts are harder to find spares for and are usually impossible to warranty or replace.

Thanks for the offer for a new layout... we've been getting tons of offers from people who want to moderate and from people who want to redesign the site. Honestly I don't think the looks of the site really matter as much as making the content easy to find and read.

There are a lot of graphic designers out there and I am one of them but while doing a redesign would be fun I have been forcing myself to concentrate on trying to add more pages of content. If you want I can probably send you one of the mediawiki themes that are installed, and there are several, if you want to have a good look at how they work. In the meantime I think we should concentrate our efforts on getting more good tech pages added.

For those who want to moderate, go to the site and sign up. Have a look around and click the "Watch" tab on all of the pages you'd like to monitor. Try to pick pages about subjects that you are most knowledgeable about.

For those who want to add pages there are instructions on the home page. And don't worry if you're missing some info. I added a page about chains and I'm probably missing half the chains out there but other people will come along to add more information and to make some edits if I've made some mistakes. That's the great thing about a Wiki.

bmx-u.com (http://www.bmx-u.com)
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Eggit2 on November 30, 2009, 03:19:14 PM
We don't need to "redesign" the site, information is its primary function, not to look pretty. Look how little "design" wikipedia has. What would be nice though is to get a decent page template going so that the general formatting and idea flow was uniform across pages.

When I get some time I will make a "blank" page that just has the formatting so you can copy and paste it to use a guideline.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: CARBON on November 30, 2009, 04:02:59 PM
Actually that would be awesome.

There are a lot of things formatting wise that we will end up doing over and over. It would be great to have a blank template as a starting point.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Lo Pan on December 11, 2009, 01:42:27 PM
Someone should add that anodising guide that someone posted on here.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: dave_k on December 12, 2009, 09:14:17 AM
Quote from: Lo Pan;3160924
Someone should add that anodising guide that someone posted on here.

this?
http://www.bikeguide.org/forums/showthread.php?t=177334
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: .Lee. on December 12, 2009, 09:27:31 AM
Quote from: dave_k;3161578
this?
http://www.bikeguide.org/forums/showthread.php?t=177334


I think he means this http://www.bikeguide.org/forums/showthread.php?t=180556&highlight=anodize
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on December 12, 2009, 11:03:31 AM
Lo Pan, Thank you for the suggestion, certainly, you could have done it, seeing as it is a wiki ;) But I will try to make time this weekend.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Meursault on December 14, 2009, 10:16:31 AM
We should do full schematics for hubs. That would be sweet, and I would help.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Allah on December 18, 2009, 06:26:52 AM
I'm really impressed, good show chaps!
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: sum random dude on December 18, 2009, 12:19:26 PM
Could we add a category called tricks?
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on December 18, 2009, 12:35:58 PM
Random, the catagory has been added. Nothing in there yet, but I assume that's what why you wanted it... just add
Code: [Select]
[[category:Tricks]] to the bottom of the page
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: sum random dude on December 18, 2009, 12:57:11 PM
How do I add a page to a category?
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on December 18, 2009, 01:15:52 PM
The easiest way to add a page is to search for the title you want. When it doesn't come up with anything, there will be a link that says "Create This Page". Click that, then it will bring you to the editing window. Just make sure you add the code posted above into that edit window. I'll go through and add some empty pages so you can go in and just click "edit" at the top.

There is a bit of a learning curve with this system, so please feel free to post your questions here, I'll try to be quick with replies.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: sum random dude on December 18, 2009, 02:31:28 PM
Thanks.  Starting to figure things out...
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Bocao on January 04, 2010, 01:15:53 PM
I deleted the footjam tailwhip description from the tailwhip and posted there the real thing.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: super_chief on January 30, 2010, 08:03:52 PM
must... keep... going...
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: dave_k on January 30, 2010, 08:25:19 PM
do you mind if i post and sticky this on the come up
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: JohnW on January 30, 2010, 08:55:03 PM
The last thing that site needs is the retards from TCU editing it.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: dave_k on January 30, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: JohnW;3203810
The last thing that site needs is the retards from TCU editing it.


there are just as many retards here as there buddy.

second this would help others out and thats the point right?
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: super_chief on January 30, 2010, 09:10:09 PM
I don't see anything wrong with mentioning it over there. However, there will be need to be some moderating going down to keep it on point
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: dave_k on January 30, 2010, 09:15:11 PM
Quote from: super_chief;3203830
I don't see anything wrong with mentioning it over there. However, there will be need to be some moderating going down to keep it on point


the users there would be no more harm than other people around the internet that stumble across it. if you fig out a moderating system for it let me know and i will gladly toss it up. til then i wont for fear of it being messed up
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: JohnW on January 30, 2010, 09:16:32 PM
I doubt much worthwhile knowledge will come from there.  The bad would outweigh the good I think.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: dave_k on January 30, 2010, 09:19:38 PM
Quote from: JohnW;3203839
I doubt much worthwhile knowledge will come from there.  The bad would outweigh the good I think.


the knowledge would be GOOD for some of the users, get off your high horse and go post with the kids on bmx-forum some more
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: JohnW on January 30, 2010, 09:23:32 PM
Quote from: dave_k;3203842
the knowledge would be GOOD for some of the users, get off your high horse and go post with the kids on bmx-forum some more


Why are you getting all defensive?  I never said anything against you.

Just that I feel many people from that site would fill it with junk.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: super_chief on January 30, 2010, 09:54:38 PM
you don't know until you take chances. as it stands it would seem as though it is collecting dust. i know i hadn't had the chance to add anything recently.

most would likely not even bother to add/edit.

others may have some decent input that can then be left be or edited to refine/clarify/etc

with a couple mods to help keep it clean/sound i can see it greatly improving as it is a resource tool made for the masses by the masses.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: dave_k on January 30, 2010, 10:21:52 PM
Quote from: super_chief;3203864
you don't know until you take chances. as it stands it would seem as though it is collecting dust. i know i hadn't had the chance to add anything recently.

most would likely not even bother to add/edit.

others may have some decent input that can then be left be or edited to refine/clarify/etc

with a couple mods to help keep it clean/sound i can see it greatly improving as it is a resource tool made for the masses by the masses.


my thoughts exactly
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: JohnW on January 30, 2010, 10:33:28 PM
Quote from: super_chief;3203864
you don't know until you take chances. as it stands it would seem as though it is collecting dust. i know i hadn't had the chance to add anything recently.

most would likely not even bother to add/edit.

others may have some decent input that can then be left be or edited to refine/clarify/etc

with a couple mods to help keep it clean/sound i can see it greatly improving as it is a resource tool made for the masses by the masses.


True.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on January 30, 2010, 10:45:35 PM
I am perfectly fine doing moderation. The more people we can pool, the more steam it can gain.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: BGB on February 10, 2010, 04:49:50 PM
http://www.bikeguide.org/forums/showthread.php?t=190499  add it!
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on February 10, 2010, 05:44:45 PM
http://www.bmx-u.com/index.php?title=Gsport_Ratchet#Component_Weights

Took me less than a minute. Maybe next time you can do the copy and paste...
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: JohnW on February 10, 2010, 06:30:15 PM
Quote from: ibike;3212614
http://www.bikeguide.org/forums/showthread.php?t=190499  add it!


Do you know how a Wiki works?
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: BGB on February 11, 2010, 07:32:53 PM
Not really that's why I let one of you do it.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: JohnW on February 11, 2010, 07:42:54 PM
If you want stuff added, figure out how to do it yourself.  it's not hard...
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: BGB on February 11, 2010, 08:01:34 PM
Man you really are the worst.  I will when i have some spare time.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: Tubes6al4v on February 11, 2010, 08:17:56 PM
The is an easy guide on the main page: http://www.bmx-u.com/index.php?title=Main_Page#How_To_Post
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: JohnW on February 11, 2010, 08:27:17 PM
Quote from: ibike;3213680
Man you really are the worst.  I will when i have some spare time.


I'm saying that because you don't need time.  It takes a few seconds.  Click to make a topic, edit it, paste, and you're done.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: BGB on February 11, 2010, 08:41:58 PM
I threw up links to all that stuff, where you can buy, and image links.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: MathDebater on December 01, 2010, 11:17:26 AM
so is this a lost cause?
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: CARBON on December 14, 2010, 11:33:19 PM
It's been just over a year. The site has some really good articles on it but it's not very active at this point. At least it's storing some good information.

Just press the random articles button.

Battling spam is the biggest headache with a site like that.
Title: Idea: BMX Tech Wiki
Post by: brian itzaina on September 28, 2011, 12:30:48 PM
I want someone to make me some reverse p-guts so I can run a pivitol seat on my thomson post.

Couch?