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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: February 14, 2013, 12:17:45 PM »

Got some pegs in today, and should get my Faction tires in tomorrow

Now I just have to sand the chrome off my brake mounts so I can fit some brakes on there and I'll be good to go.

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: February 11, 2013, 08:56:24 PM »

Bunky, you've had a chance to ride yours much?

we want action pictures!!

So far, just around in the street doing simple stuff like fullcabs, manuals, and crankflips.  

Waiting on pegs to get in so I can put it down some rails.

Unfortunately, I just moved to Raleigh and I don't know anybody here yet, so I doubt I'll be getting any action shots anytime soon.

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: February 11, 2013, 07:44:55 PM »

Just checked and mine says Friday too!

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: January 31, 2013, 07:33:21 PM »

Parts list located over Mhherre

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: January 23, 2013, 07:28:24 PM »

Ok, so I've got some of the S&M/Revenge tires...  What other tire options are out there right now?  Posts with links to where you can purchase them get extra points!

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: January 06, 2013, 12:47:37 PM »

I couldn't help myself...  Decided to buy this as a congratulations present for myself for landing a new full time management job.

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 31, 2012, 05:17:06 PM »

Bunky-  I bet you would dig the Holmes.  If you like how your Model C rides this will probably be a fun bike for you as well.

The custom 29er is in the works and I have pretty much all the parts for it except for the frame, which is still being built, I'm right on the verge of buying a SE Primetime complete and running it on the freewheel side, and I'm sooooo tempted to get a Holmes 22 kit.  The only thing is I work for another 2 weeks straight and then only have 2 days off before I have to move to Raleigh and will be living in a guest room for a while until I find a place and wont have anywhere to stash the bikes.  It looks like it will probably just be the Wave-C and me for a while.  

I know it will probably be fun, I just wont have anywhere to build/stash the bike for a while.

Somebody get me an exact measurement on the back end of one of these things and help convince me that I should just do it!!!!!

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 31, 2012, 05:10:28 PM »

Yes, the lower bb will balance out the shorter back end. But not just the bb . . . the larger diameter wheel will also factor in.  

I say this because I've ridden/tested/experimented with a lot of builds and wheel sizes over the last several years... and even when bb height (relative to axles) and cs is the same, a bike will still pull up differently just based on the wheel size.  

If you don't believe me, put some 20" wheels in your Model C and take it for a spin !   Better still (or maybe not!), get a pair of 22" wheels and 22" fork and run them in your Model C as a test.   I set up a We The People Avenger (ripoff of Model C) like this.  (Your rear brakes will not line up... unless you can somehow slot your dropout further forward and run brakes that can adjust the pads really far back):

Faction Zeitgeist 22" next to a We The People Avenger 24" with 22" wheels and 22" S&M fork.

Also, the InDust Cuatro 24" and the InDust 2ton 22" have similar cs length and bb rise, but you will feel a difference just based on the wheel size.

I remember seeing pictures of your Avenger with 22 wheels on it somewhere and thinking it looked cool.  Thanks for the info!

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 30, 2012, 11:38:42 PM »

I'm only 5-11 but after riding a Model C a bunch now short back ends feel like they loop out way too quick.

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: December 30, 2012, 10:53:29 PM »

Ok, so I'm thinking I'm going to have to get a 22 inch bike...  My only thing is the Holmes specs say it has a 14.1 back end.  Is that in the middle of the dropouts?  I'm riding a 21.5 Mutiny animist right now and I have the back end at about 14.5 right now and that feels too short.  But the Animist has a BB height 1.7 above axle center line and the 22Holmes has a BB height 1.25 above axle center line, so I'm back and forth on whether or not the low bottom bracket will balance out the short back end for me.

Can someone with a 22holmes measure the back end for me and tell me how long it is with the axle all the way in the back of the dropouts (but still in), so that I can convince myself that I don't need to spend the money on a custom one with a longer rear end???

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The Bike Shop / What did you do to your bike today? (v2)

« on: September 05, 2012, 08:11:48 PM »

Built up my new Wave-C and right now I'm building some Tree hubs to 24inch Rhyno Lights to put on my Model-C.

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The Bike Shop / definitive freecoaster thread

« on: August 17, 2012, 07:23:03 PM »

Wasn't the Colony prototype built by Zodiac?

Maybe I'm mistaken.

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The Bike Shop / Spanish BB Length

« on: April 10, 2012, 12:11:52 AM »

"BMX standards" is like an oxymoron... each standard is created by whatever company created whatever design first, and then a bunch of companies take it and mess with it.

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: March 31, 2012, 10:58:23 AM »

you're right that bb height relative axle line does  matter on how quick the front end pulls up. BUT it also matters what wheel diameter. i've experimented with this several times.

see: http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=3369360#p3369360

imagine you   put some 16"s on your regular 20" bike, see how it feels. or even,the extreme case, let's say you put a couple of large roller-blade sized wheels in your regular 20" BMX frame in the same dropout spots you normally bolt down the axles.  the bike is going to pull up quicker becuase the pivoting around the tiny roller blade wheel's axle (3" diameter) is going to be very quick. if you were trying to manual on those tiny 3" diameter wheels, you would have to do really quick adjustments.... does that make sense?


btw, bean22"s  faction amero next to a custom 22" top tube STANDARD Trail Boss:


http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=3371046#p3371046




:dunno:

I agree that if you put rollerblade wheels on a bmx that manualing would be a lot twitchier, but that would be due to the decreasing of weight off the front end, not because you are pivoting around a smaller tire.  You pivot around the axle, not the tire.  Your axle doesn't know how big your tire is.  

Where's George to bring some physics knowledge into this???

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The Bike Shop / 22 inches

« on: March 30, 2012, 10:39:10 PM »

That would be cool!  I rode one of the first 22 faction bikes a while back, and even though the geometry was a bit off with a slack ass head angle, it was really fun.