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Bike Gallery / Re: Post your custom made bmx frames !

« on: February 19, 2015, 05:29:15 PM »

Cellmember, so many questions. Why does one frame have zero seat tube and the other have way too much? Why does the second frame have both chainstay and seatstay mounts? Did the tensioners on the Solid frame actually work?

Well the solid frame was about the time when wedge posts started to come out basically I really liked the look and the ease of this design so I had one made up just for that.

The Embassy frame has both SS and CS mounts because I do like to have the option of having both, I get the urge to either go chain stay mounts for a while and seat stay for a while basically that's all it is really I just wanted the option to use either one when I felt like it and as for the seat post that's usually the amount of seat post I have out of the frame as on the Solid I usually had my seat slammed also I still like the function of a wedge and the aesthetics of it, if I ever decided to use a normal seat mast with a clamp for what ever reason I have plenty of room to modify the frame to do so.

The tensioners on the Solid were a bit of a problem as I had to remove them to actually use my hub, the would rub on the tensioners, luckily it wasn't hard to do, if they were a little smaller in shape they would have worked perfectly, was a bit of a bummer but not a huge inconvenience.

Cheers

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Bike Gallery / Re: Post your custom made bmx frames !

« on: February 19, 2015, 12:10:16 AM »

I'm no expert on welding but isn't welding through metal bad?

I'm not sure but I can't imagine it being good, notice no venting holes, dude I got the frame made up from completely fucked it.

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Bike Gallery / Re: Stainless Isla.

« on: February 18, 2015, 09:23:21 PM »

Did you lop off the seat clamp ?

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Bike Gallery / Post your custom made bmx frames !

« on: February 18, 2015, 09:15:56 PM »

Just as the title specifies, if you had/have a custom made frame post it up, include the builder who made it and specifications of the frame and why you chose what you chose if you like.

If this thread has been made up already apologies in advance, plus I'm not sure if this is the correct place to start this thread, seemed the most logical, if it needs moving please let me know.

I'll start first.

Very first custom frame I had made was from Solid Bikes which was from 2009-10

Spec's

TT: 20.6"
HT: 75
ST: 71
BBH: 11.75"
SOH: 7.4" C2C
CSL: 13.375"

Tubing

Super therm, double butted.
TT: 32mm
DT: 35mm with solid gusset
SS/CS: 19mm
SS/CS B: 19mm
ST: 25.4mm externally butted made for wedge post
DO: Cult with built in tensioners, 5mm thick, 14mm slot
Tyre Clearance: 2.2" Max
HT: Integrated 45/45, removable gyro tabs
BB: Spanish, 68mm
Brakes: Chainstay mounted, welded
Cable Stop: Welded
Chainstay lowered on the BB to clear 25/9 ratio



Second custom was from Embassy Bikes made just last year 2014

Spec's

TT: 20.6"
HT: 75
ST: 71
BBH: 11.55"
SOH: 7.6" C2C
CSL: 13.20"

Tubing

4130 Straight gauge, 1.2mm
TT: 32mm
DT: 35mm 
SS/CS: 19mm
SS/CS Bridges: curved 19mm
ST: 25.4mm wedge ready
DO: Tierra dropouts with integrated chain tensioners, 7mm thick, 14mm slot
Tyre Clearance: 2.3" Max
HT: Integrated 45/45, removable gyro tabs
BB: Spanish, 68mm
Brakes: Seatstay and Chainstay mounted brakes, removable fly dylan style
Cable Stop: removable fly guiri TT and DT
Chainstay lowered on the BB to clear 25/9 ratio

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The Lounge / Re: Frame Features /Strength

« on: February 18, 2015, 08:38:48 PM »

One of my friends had a Barcode. I distinctly remember dropping into a quarter pipe on it and being surprised by how much stiffer than my non-wishbone frame it was.

Oh yeah, best feeling, makes the frame feel secure and trustworthy, no doubt.

The cutouts look terrible on the stays and not a fan of the seatclamps.  He can do standard seat tubes w/o a clamp

That was the only thing the builder was willing to do. Probably because there's no welding required so it's quick and easy.

If your frame isn't breaking on you, isn't it strong as it needs to be?

Over the last 30 odd years I have seen every style of frame crack. 

Personally I don't like a super stiff rear end. Hurts too much. Now, that don't mean I like flexy ass frames.

That's not really what I'm talking about on here but like I said in my original post, tube ss/cs vs plate ss/cs and wish bone etc, and the fact that I couldn't get what I wanted done on the frame is what bothered me.

Fair enough everyone to their own, I dig the solid rear end's personally.

T1 builds rule.

You Sir are correct, now If only I could have gotten my hands on one.

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Bike Gallery / Re: T1 Barcode. Scerbo. Primo. My indian summer in BMX

« on: February 18, 2015, 05:23:54 PM »

I feel sad and happy every time I see a barcode, sad because I don't have one and happy because I love seeing them, build is perfect !

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Bike Gallery / Re: 2014 FBM Angel of Death

« on: February 18, 2015, 05:18:24 PM »

How awesome is it when a company stops making a dope frame then couple years later revive it and make it even better, I love it when they do this ! Clean man very clean !

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Bike Gallery / Re: Pedal Driven

« on: February 18, 2015, 05:14:34 PM »

I'm diggin that colour and chainstays FTW, sweet check !

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Riding Photos / Re: Papoy riding

« on: February 18, 2015, 05:12:20 PM »

He posted a bikecheck recently, 'Pedal Driven' in the gallery

Edit: http://www.bikeguide.org/forum/index.php/topic,220305.0.html

Great, thank you Professor !

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Sell and Swap / Re: Standard 125R race frame

« on: February 18, 2015, 05:09:09 PM »

I don't know what it is about this bike but for a race bike this is so facking clean and that red is perfect, you have a nice racer sir and good luck with the sale !

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The Bike Shop / Re: 22mm spline drive sprickets?

« on: February 18, 2015, 05:05:10 PM »

WARNING!

Putting Taiwan 22mm splined cranks on a Profile 22mm splined axle (or vice-versa) is going to be a massive disaster, they are very different sizes.


G.

Say what now !

G, please explain I appreciate your input, I'm currently on Columns myself with a Stolen 22mm Spindle which is 5-1/2, I swapped out the original Profile 6" for the Stolen mainly because 6" spreads out my arms too much.

Thanks G,

I like saying G.

They are both ostensibly 22mm and 48 spline but the teeth are a slightly different angle, and measure significantly differently on major and minor diameters. Didn't you find it felt very bad fitting when you assembled it compared to the old axle??!!?


G.

They actually went together really smooth spline sprocket and cranks, though I do prep before I install anything to make sure the process is as smooth as possible, if anything the cranks weren't as hard to install as regular profile where using a installation tool is necessary as for the columns it wasn't needed but I know now exactly what you are talking about because I have had the similar situation with previous cranks, luckily they all worked fine once installed, thanks for the little bit of info G, I'll be sure to use it for the future.

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The Lounge / Re: Frame Features /Strength

« on: February 18, 2015, 04:52:19 PM »

Just get a custom AoD and be done. Cause wishbones


Or Dave at pedal driven he was pretty good to talk to before when I was looking at a custom from him

That's awesome that Fbm are have brought back the AOD, definitely got a lot of people stoked.

Yeah I will be looking into him, thanks.

I've been curious what Laird's take was about wishbones and tube braces, now I know. That being said, I think that what he is doing looks really great.

I will admit he has very pretty welds !

http://instagram.com/p/Y50zz-sObP/?modal=true
8 Places!

Holy shit, I've never seen that kind of crack in a place like that before, fack.

The devil is always in the detail, but generally speaking, comparing like with like, a wishbone is either going to be stronger for the same weight, or lighter for the same strength.

In terms of plate bridges, just no. They are a LOT easier to make though, so there's that...


G.

I definitely noticed a difference when it came to wishbone vs A and S, makes sense to. Like I said I was shocked when I was told otherwise, haha.

I've never been a fan of plates for the bridge's mainly because I think it looks tacky and the obvious it wouldn't be that strong compared to a tube, but it looks like for this particular builder  plates are strongest for him, and yeah you are most correct with it being cheaper to produce.

Nice to hear input from everyone, thanks all !

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The Lounge / Re: Frame Features /Strength

« on: February 18, 2015, 04:14:24 AM »

lairds got some nice welds going on but he seems like a bit of a tripper, especially if hes telling you plate bridges are stronger than tube ones.

i heard wishbones being more twisty is true though, but i guess it depends on the specific dimensions and stuff cos sunday frames

Like I said I can't see a plate being better suited instead of tubing for the bridges.

Really, I wouldn't have imagined that, but it could be a possibility, I can definitely notice the difference between a wishbone rear end and a A and S bend, the wish bone feels much much stiffer.

I was told that A: a wishbone rear end is not a strong as a A or S bend stays and B that round tubing for the SS/CS bridges are weaker than a plate. O_o

Whoever told you this, I would completely ignore in future

Yeah I'll mostly pass on this particular builder as it looks like he's not interested in doing what I'm after any ways.

I've heard from several reputable sources that wishbones greatly strengthen a frame. Not sure about the whole plate/tube argument but tube should take forces better and be lighter. If you want to build a strong and stiff frame, I'd opt for something with large diameter tubes, gussets, a wishbone (or two), and non-micro dropouts for more weld contact area. Basically build a sunday.

For sure, that all makes sense, and is basically what I'm doing.

If Im not mistaken Mr. French made an article somewhere stating that wishbones are stronger.

I wonder if 3D printed frames could become a thing.

I'll have to do a quick search and find the article, I'd like to read up on that. Always interesting to see G's input.

I'd like to see a 3D printed frame definitely curious, one day...

So he is basically saying that some of the strongest frames over the last 15 years... are now the weakest? I'll take wishbones and tube bridges thank you very much.

Maybe you should find a new frame builder.

Yep, so would I.

That's what I'll be doing.

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The Lounge / Re: Frame Features /Strength

« on: February 17, 2015, 08:33:08 PM »

Laird?

I do know that some people break frames and some don't. And some folks always break a frame in the same spot (a friend of mine always broke his on the seat stays, near the top tube. another friend always broke his at the top tube/head tube)

Are you breaking a lot of frames?

I know Laird has some heavy hitters on his frames. (if that's who you're talking about)

I say buy one and try to break it.

I'm after a custom mainly due to not being able to find certain frames so It's just easier to have one made up, no I'm not breaking frames, I have had a lot of defected frames not none braking at crucial points mainly just brake bit snapping off *Cough* Fly.

If I'm getting a custom built up I want to have the spec's I'm after not what someone tells me I should have, plus that's not what I'm talking about here, I don't want to mention names that's not my thing, I just want people's opinions on my first post and even better if someone has a professional background on the matter.

Yeah I've seen a lot of "Pro's" on his frames, good to see.

I wonder why Buckworth isn't on his laird frame any more.

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The Lounge / Re: Frame Features /Strength

« on: February 17, 2015, 08:09:21 PM »

I would go with a tube brace. I dunno if they're stronger or not

My personal pref is tube bridge as well, I can't see a plate being stronger/stiffer.