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Odyssey Clutch Teardown?
Allah:
Looks really well thought out G, nice one.
Although I don't know whether any of the kids ride trails any more :(
metalbmxer:
--- Quote from: streetStreet on July 23, 2015, 03:30:59 PM ---So, on a scale of 1 to 10, for a first time freecoaster user; would you rate this hub as easy or hard to maintain?
I think eliminating any back pedaling would be great since i'm in my 30's.
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This is the easiest design of any freecoaster hub to maintain. You can literally bolt it on and ride it without needing to grease or adjust cone tension or repack the bearings after a week. I'd give it a 1/10.
The only thing a beginner would maybe want to adjust is the slack seen on G's youtube how-to by simply turning the allen screw from the outside of the hub.
What's cool though is you will have G posting youtube videos in the near future that will show the internals and hopefully how they all fit together, which can be tricky at first to newcomers. Props on this. That being said, there are already a few unofficial videos of past KHE style hub teardowns that can be found on youtube.
According to my source, the hubs are already in the US and on their way to shops as we speak!
They should be arriving on Monday afternoon to shops.
metalbmxer:
--- Quote from: G on July 23, 2015, 09:52:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: alaskun on July 22, 2015, 02:53:33 AM ---sheepdog and a few others here are involved with 3d printing stuff...
3d files for the plastic bits?
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No.
Most 3D printers will only print PLA or ABS which just aren't suitable, most home machines also wont achieve a good enough tolerance or surface finish.
--- Quote from: streetStreet on July 22, 2015, 09:48:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: GUMP_ on July 21, 2015, 07:26:13 PM ---I always thought G had a deeper voice.
Actually liked the video got a better idea of the hub
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More like something nerdy from the BBC. When does does it arrive in CANADA.
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Not sure on Canada, probably about the same time as the USA.
--- Quote from: metalbmxer on July 22, 2015, 03:48:09 PM ---G: amazing looking product. worthy upgrades to a traditional khe
questions:
What is the listed weight? What are the bolt sizes and tpi being used? thanks!
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It annoys me when people refer to any axial design as a KHE clone. The axial clutch design goes back nearly a hundred years in coaster brake hubs. We (BMXers) were taking the brake shoes out of coaster hubs over 30 years ago. ACS were making the RL hub about 30 years ago too. Even the Odyssey Reloader pre-dates the KHE by a significant margin. The Poverty hub had the ball springs long before the KHE hub came out (though they were welded instead of screwed), and I think that that was just an off the shelf hub so I have no idea who came out with those.
What did KHE bring to the party? They have a patent on their through axle gap adjustment (though Yu Hub claim this was their idea) and that is about it?
--- Quote from: George on July 23, 2015, 05:37:45 AM ---is the driver just running on the needle bearing? How is the load of the drive side bearing transfered to the axle? Can't really tell from the pictures
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Yes. The driver only runs on a needle bearing inside and the usual angular contact bearing around the outside to the shell. The axial loads on the wheel are NOT transferred to the axle through the driver at all, this is how we can eliminate the 6802's and be certain that the driver bearings wont explode. There will be a separate video to explain the bearings...
:)
G.
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G: Thanks for the insider history lesson. Very interesting! I haven't been this excited about a freecoaster since the Cult came out, but obviously that was a flop. Having had both types of hubs, KHE-style and Nankai, I think the nankai offers an unparalleled user experience but unfortunately my flange is cracked and the availability of Japanese parts is questionable here in the US to say the least. And furthermore, I think the odsy clutch may now be the best designed hub out there.
Sasha:
--- Quote from: GUMP_ on July 23, 2015, 02:53:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sasha on July 23, 2015, 02:42:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: Terrorbabble1 on July 21, 2015, 08:23:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: GUMP_ on July 21, 2015, 07:26:13 PM ---I always thought G had a deeper voice.
Actually liked the video got a better idea of the hub
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Haha I had a hughe grant voice in my head personally
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Nobody actually sounds like Hugh Grant.
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I always thought you would sound like mike whatshisname
(Skinner?)from the streets
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Nah, nobody sounds like that either. That's just a put on Southern accent for poofs who drink shandy.
streetStreet:
--- Quote from: metalbmxer on July 23, 2015, 06:54:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: streetStreet on July 23, 2015, 03:30:59 PM ---So, on a scale of 1 to 10, for a first time freecoaster user; would you rate this hub as easy or hard to maintain?
I think eliminating any back pedaling would be great since i'm in my 30's.
--- End quote ---
This is the easiest design of any freecoaster hub to maintain. You can literally bolt it on and ride it without needing to grease or adjust cone tension or repack the bearings after a week. I'd give it a 1/10.
The only thing a beginner would maybe want to adjust is the slack seen on G's youtube how-to by simply turning the allen screw from the outside of the hub.
What's cool though is you will have G posting youtube videos in the near future that will show the internals and hopefully how they all fit together, which can be tricky at first to newcomers. Props on this. That being said, there are already a few unofficial videos of past KHE style hub teardowns that can be found on youtube.
According to my source, the hubs are already in the US and on their way to shops as we speak!
They should be arriving on Monday afternoon to shops.
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]Thanks for the info they are in Canada in like 2 weeks.
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