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A question to frame vendors/repair shops regarding Standard bykes custom
G:
--- Quote from: metalbmxer on May 20, 2015, 01:22:21 PM ---so how long has the op not been riding while waiting to get a frame repaired that is maybe 1 degree off? i can't see any serious rider taking off that amount of time due to something they'd never even feel. I mean just look at how most riders have their back wheels in the dropouts: cocked to one side for chain tension or just bc it always tightens up that way. I mean really now....
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That seems like a harsh attitude. OP hasn't posted in nearly a month so maybe it all got sorted, but having ridden a frame that was very bent in the past for an extended period I can attest that you definitely feel it and if you pay top dollar for it you WOULD be pissed.
:)
G.
metalbmxer:
--- Quote from: G on May 20, 2015, 03:18:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: metalbmxer on May 20, 2015, 01:22:21 PM ---so how long has the op not been riding while waiting to get a frame repaired that is maybe 1 degree off? i can't see any serious rider taking off that amount of time due to something they'd never even feel. I mean just look at how most riders have their back wheels in the dropouts: cocked to one side for chain tension or just bc it always tightens up that way. I mean really now....
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That seems like a harsh attitude. OP hasn't posted in nearly a month so maybe it all got sorted, but having ridden a frame that was very bent in the past for an extended period I can attest that you definitely feel it and if you pay top dollar for it you WOULD be pissed.
:)
G.
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hmmm i can see your point G, and i have read your analysis on frame geo extensively through each and every one of your tech articles. But wasnt it you who was saying that NO frame is perfect and is in fact allowed a certain degree of variance in each and every angle and dimension?
TpeHep:
Well.. nothing interesting happened so far so no good reason to post. I've sent frame back on April, 22nd, and didn't hear
from Standard in like 3 weeks since then.. they didn't reply to couple of mails i sent them by that time. Last week I've asked my friend to write them, so that email is different, initially asking for prices and then telling hello from myself and suggesting to talk via customer service and such. They were very fast to respond with prices, took a few minutes.
After that Jess mailed saying they have no news to share with me. I've dropped another mail today, no reply.
It's not like i can't ride, my bike is fully set up with current frame which i ride for about 5-7 years, there's no problems with it.
And there's always wife's bike to take for a spin too :D
Frame welds did appear really fine to me as well, and frame would be great indeed, if only put together properly..
Pretty much every BMX frame I've seen had some minor thing here or there, it can't be perfect, but this one is just too much.
LeonLikesToRock:
Just ride it attitude is all good when you haven't forked out and waited for a custom frame. I've got a custom that has crooked as fuck break mounts. Sent it back, then got it back with brakes crooked as fuck in the other direction. Still, at least I could ride that brakeless. I was pissed, they were pissed. We both lost money and time. Sucks that both parties lose out but I did everything that was expected of me, paid punctually and waited (for several months longer than quoted). They fucked up by not controlling the quality of their product. It is their fuck up.
I don't get why people are defending the builder and having a go at the customer.
G:
--- Quote from: metalbmxer on May 20, 2015, 06:06:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: G on May 20, 2015, 03:18:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: metalbmxer on May 20, 2015, 01:22:21 PM ---so how long has the op not been riding while waiting to get a frame repaired that is maybe 1 degree off? i can't see any serious rider taking off that amount of time due to something they'd never even feel. I mean just look at how most riders have their back wheels in the dropouts: cocked to one side for chain tension or just bc it always tightens up that way. I mean really now....
--- End quote ---
That seems like a harsh attitude. OP hasn't posted in nearly a month so maybe it all got sorted, but having ridden a frame that was very bent in the past for an extended period I can attest that you definitely feel it and if you pay top dollar for it you WOULD be pissed.
:)
G.
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hmmm i can see your point G, and i have read your analysis on frame geo extensively through each and every one of your tech articles. But wasnt it you who was saying that NO frame is perfect and is in fact allowed a certain degree of variance in each and every angle and dimension?
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Yes. But...
There has to be a limit to the acceptable variation. If you can "eyeball" a frame and it looks obviously bent or twisted then it is probably out by more than the 0.25 or 0.5 of a millimeter that would be "reasonable" for a high end frame. Its amazing how many people DO ride around on bent/twisted frames, look around a skatepark and you will often see one or two, and when those riders replace them with new straight ones they will often need a little while to adjust, which can be very frustrating. But if you are paying top dollar you shouldn't have to accept it feeling like a hammered old beater.
:)
G.
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