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A question to frame vendors/repair shops regarding Standard bykes custom
Louis:
The only thing I have a problem with is standard getting the frame back and them saying it's straight/true or fine or whatever. With just that little explanation?
What are their (standard 'byke' co) tolerances/specs on this exact situation?
It's the first sentence in the OP!... how does TpeHep not have a direct answer to this question from Standard themselves?!
Am I wrong in thinking you really don't need a professional frame builder to use measuring tools coupled with a flat counter top? Or something that basic DIY, to properly 'prove' your point? Not a damn camera ALONE. You need both the picture/video with the PROPER MEASUREMENTS IN the said pic/vid, a proficient professional confident in their skills wouldn't hurt though. (any good welder? 'engineer'? machinist even?) Do these pictures exist we just haven't seen them?
Was a refund in any form discussed? (if the frame is so fine to them they should be able to re-sell?)
Since you're 'stuck' with it have you ridden it?
Did I miss where you are from?
--- Quote from: Funtimes on April 24, 2015, 12:47:12 AM ---An 1/8 ain't shit
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We still don't have a REAL measurement, that was visual. and 1/8" = 3.18 mm which is out of G's suggested 'specs'. Is that what you would expect for a ~$600 welded frame? be it on your bicycle? Or what if it was a motorcycle frame? I don't have enough experience building this type of stuff but I will certainly ask those I know who do. How about if he was professionally racing BMX? When does it become acceptable?
IMHO it seems acceptable for a bicycle... but I could go either way since we are supposed to be talking about some of the finest welded 4130 in BMX. Not just any bicycle...
$$$.$$
streetStreet:
You might wanna pick your vagina up off the floor and try out the frame.
.2, bud, .2.
TpeHep:
--- Quote from: Louis on April 25, 2015, 01:35:14 PM ---The only thing I have a problem with is standard getting the frame back and them saying it's straight/true or fine or whatever. With just that little explanation?
...
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This bothers me most of all as well (especially due to fact Rick suggested to check frame alignment in person), and is also main reason for the topic - which was intended to clarify things in first place, not to complain about Standard (i don't like doing that really).
They didn't give me their allowed dimension error when i asked (nor other direct answers for my questions). Generic/common amount of allowed precision error still remains shady too.
Pics are just for illustration, you can see issue with bare eye, there's not much point in precision measuring, it's obvious frame isn't very useful. I was certainly considering building some validation device, but i have work and other stuff to do. Box was fine both of times, needless to say.
Thanks to everyone who bothered to post so far - as it looks that most of reasoned opinions (both here and from locals) suggest this is unacceptable, i've mailed frame back for second time few days ago and am waiting for some possibly interesting news now..
master:
--- Quote from: TpeHep on April 26, 2015, 04:49:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Louis on April 25, 2015, 01:35:14 PM ---The only thing I have a problem with is standard getting the frame back and them saying it's straight/true or fine or whatever. With just that little explanation?
...
--- End quote ---
This bothers me most of all as well (especially due to fact Rick suggested to check frame alignment in person), and is also main reason for the topic - which was intended to clarify things in first place, not to complain about Standard (i don't like doing that really).
They didn't give me their allowed dimension error when i asked (nor other direct answers for my questions). Generic/common amount of allowed precision error still remains shady too.
Pics are just for illustration, you can see issue with bare eye, there's not much point in precision measuring, it's obvious frame isn't very useful. I was certainly considering building some validation device, but i have work and other stuff to do. Box was fine both of times, needless to say.
Thanks to everyone who bothered to post so far - as it looks that most of reasoned opinions (both here and from locals) suggest this is unacceptable, i've mailed frame back for second time few days ago and am waiting for some possibly interesting news now..
--- End quote ---
If the frame actually measures out of spec (not an eyeball/camera measurement)... I would hope that the interesting news is a refund.
Alice Glass:
should have gotten an STA...I mean a Sunday frame
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