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Pedal design devolving?
LeonLikesToRock:
I think a good and affordable PC pedal is an evolution from expensive and shitty metal pedals. I paid way too much for some primo tenderisers when I was in my early/mid teens and then they literally fell apart on me after a short time (not even on my grind side). I think my first set of Odyssey PC pedals outlasted my sealed Stricker pedals.
If you want high quality metal pedals, they're still out there - especially in the mtb world. I wouldn't want to grind on them but I've got some Canfield Brothers pedals on the MTB and they are the shit.
dersou ousala:
i use some MTB pedals (spank spike). Honestly, it change the feeling a lot and in a good way. it feels like going with from 11.75 to a 11.5 bottom bracket, but the axle is still high. Also the foot being closer to the pedal axle, and the platform being huge, it SO comfortable. Honestly i just can't go back to bmx pedal now. i can adapt quickly to different bike (not like some friends who freak out when they take off a 2mm spacer under the stem) but i feel every change in geometry, and going with a ultra thin pedal is must.
And it's really strong, at least for me. had it for more than 2 years without problem, just really small amount of play but like almost any bmx pedals after a while. So i guess bmx company could take a hint from those kind of pedal. Or maybe (probably) there is no market for nerds like me haha
dude...:
totally depends how you use them.
if we are talking direct flat side of pedal striking leg,i still dont believe plastic pedals are much easier on the shins
its the pins that cause the damage, but plastic pins can still pierce your skin so unless theyre thrashed out with no grip on them (which i personally hate the feel of and dont know how people ride them like that, but preference), they can still slice you up.
they also get nicked and gouged out easily if you snag them on obstacles while performing bicycle stunt manoeuvres, leaving sharp/spiky bits of sticking out plastic that can tear you up.
if you grind on your pedals, plastics slide good, are cheap and no biggie to replace. metals last longer but grind differently, personal preference.
i still reckon jcpcs are the best for pedal grinders in the long run cos you dont have to buy a whole new set of pedals once you wore down one side of one pedal.
cut the stock pins down though cos they are super long and will kill you if you catch one of those to the shin.
axles are also warrentied against bending and breaking (if i remember correctly) so you basically only need to keep a spare body around (2 pedal halves=same lifespan as 2 sets of cheap plastic pedals), and some spare bolts/nuts (/pins).
you can also make the bodies last longer by leaving the bolts in the outside edge of the pedal-the metal wears down much slower (steel) which dramatically slows down the speed at which the plastic can be ground off
if you seek a pedal that has no wobble/play in it, good luck to you
tecnic1:
God I love tacos.
Really though, the option of treating pedals as a wear item is long overdue. For whatever reason, I've always been really hard on pedals, and I've bent a lot of spindles, and I've never had a lot of luck working on pedals as I can never get the lock nut tight enough without overtightening the cone. I also hate the way bent spindles feel, so to get pedals that (1) are cheap to replace and (2) come with much stronger spindles is fucking tits.
I don't see the really nice, sealed aluminum pedals ever going away, but to have the option of buying Twisted PCs 5 pairs at a time and treating them like grips is great. I literally just change them out because I've used them for a few months and they feel a little warn down or rattle a little too much.
The kids in my hood love it too, cause they are all running around on barely used Twisted PCs.
I really like the idea of bushing pedals also. Anything that reduces part count is a good thing in my eyes, and the ease of maintence is absolutely ideal. However, I haven't been impressed with any of the bushing pedals so far. I own a pair of BPEs, and I manager to get them to not rattle, but the bodies are just too thick for my taste, and I don't like that if I crash riding trails, I get a ton of dirt into the bushings. I'm also kind of getting the impression Animal gave up on them. The Kinks look too much like the PC Rubens, and I really hate the way those feel. I've got high hopes for the Dugan pedals.
mattywatty:
I think the de-evolution of parts is a symptom of current riding trends. From what I can tell, most of the people on this forum probably remember the 2004-2008ish era where everyone wanted to ride like Mike Aitken. Riding smooth was the name of the game and therefore it didn't seem like a waste of money to buy $100 Ruben pedals or have fancy Profile components with all the expensive Ti shit because being "good" meant not making a sound when you landed. Everyone wanted a "dialed" bike.
Now, all the children are into super abrasive street riding that absolutely trashes your bike. It's all about landing flat from huge heights and grinding everything possible. Thus, disposable cheap parts are a lot more appealing than something fancy and expensive. Additionally, it seems like the primary market for bmx companies is about 3 years younger now than it was 10 years ago, and younger kids inherently have no fucking money.
The only reason I don't have fancy machined sealed pedals is because I love my shoes too much. Im super picky about riding shoes and want them to last for as long as possible. Plastic pedals cause virtually no wear in shoe soles,whereas metal pins start taking chunks out pretty quickly.
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