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21.5" Tall Boy or Credence M.O.D. ?
Louis:
MOD doesn't have some flimsy CS or DT right? they're both at least butted im sure? hopefully not straight .035"? (found my answer read below) TallBoy is just listed as 'butted tubeset'. (which only concerns the front tubes apparently)
MOD just seems like more of a trails frame in the commercial, FBM is a lot better at this sort of thing, specs right on the site: 'Chain Stays: Double Bend, 7/8” O.D.x 0.049" Wall tapered to 5/8" OD 4130 Chromoly', specs for EACH tube.
How hard is that? On the Tall Boy page all you get is 'TUBESET: Butted True Temper SuperTherm Tubing' and on the MOD page? nothing.
I do kinda like the more traditional geometry of the MOD + longer CS though, I don't really like the CS removable mounts. Would you say removable mounts are lower overall compared to welded? higher? the same? Just looking at it they look low enough.
FBM? then again the steadfast has a more rake headtube @74* so ehhh, hard to find a 21.5" frame or any frame from FBM right now. A lot opens up @ 21.25", but I was down to try something new being over 6'4", and I like the idea of a shorter stem since i've always had long ones, being tall.
TL DR; REGARDLESS of all that: the CS thickness I guess is what matters most! so which if either has straight gauge CS, or do both frames have butted chainstay tubes? (No neither do after calling.)
So I called them :p... AND they (Ryan?) said "both frames use .049", no s&m uses butted CS" so good?, and both have butted DT not so good. So I guess MOD is ideal. Did the L.T.F. not have thin CS when it was out? Man that was awhile ago! haha I guess thats just when the tapered tubing was new and light! It did have thin SS one site says.
Lighter Than Fcuk!
Louis:
Turns out empire and albes are both sold out of 21.5 MODs
dersou ousala:
MOD just because Clint is one of the most awesome guys in bmx.
Or FBM because FBM.
Louis:
Yeah MOD is everything I want, probably gonna jump on one when they make some more in the newer colors and 21.5"
LuckyLuke:
I had a MOD and it is my favorite frame I've ever had. I rode it peg less mostly and it felt great. I gave it to a friend in need and he rides 4 pegs grinding everything in sight. Still going strong.
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