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@ss4oLe:
You may have seen this on the S&M FB page. NW goodness
therussianbabe:
I contacted Faction and actually got two prompt responses.
--- Quote ---Hi Rich,
my bro keith will probably be in touch with you too, he'll tell you more about the bike's handling on the racetrack.
As for the stunting, the larger bike isn't going to be exactly like a 20 for stuff like 360 hops or t'whips on the flat, but off any kind of kicker or in a park you'll be sticking more tricks than before. The 22's benefit is that you get more air time (even though you don't feel like you're blasting the hit any faster).
We've looked at the clips of Jason and Matt Stahl in the US (both 6ft + guys) and their warm up airs are higher than their 'go 4 it' hits on the 20, they're comfortably clearing more rotational degrees because they're in the air longer.
The frame and forks are a bit lighter than the S&M 22 (again Keith will give you the specifics, or they'll be on the Faction store site next week), the new tyres are lighter than all the top 20" street tyres (I love Aramid!) and the rims are same weight as the best of the 20's too. The combination of larger size but low weight is unusual at first, to me it felt a bit 'toy like' because you expect quality stuff to have a bit of 'mass' but the prototypes have shown the design to be strong (deliberate pool lip hang-ups, ghost rides to wall, and the UK postal service LoL, have been good destruction tests).
The Amero kit is going to be around $700 bucks for frame,forks,wheels,tyres,tubes (and shipping), but when you're ripping the same bike just as well on a racetrack or on the trails, it makes it a decent value package IMO.
I hope that's enough info.
Cheers,
Kev
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FactionBikeCo
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--- Quote --- Hi Richard thanks for your interest. Our shipment of new Amero kits arrived at the UK Docks on the 14th. They wont arrive at our warehouse here till the next few days where we can start checking everything is ok. We will be processing UK and European customer orders as of next week via our on line store on our Faction web site. US and Canada orders will also be via our online store from Dec 14th (hopefully earlier) as we are shipping part of our stock to our US based distro hub. This is to cut out the shipping cost to the end customer as much as possible. Re the tyres being sold on their own we won't be selling them individually until Easter next year. They will only be available as part of the Amero kit till then. Hope this is cool for now? Cheers
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@ss4oLe:
They've been saying 'items will be here next month' for the last three years.
HOPEFULLY, this time it's real...
*edit
also, any idea what the geo is on the new frame? They .had it listed a few years back but pulled all the data from their site. I haven't seen an update
therussianbabe:
I just dont know if I believe the wheels and tires are lighter than the 20" and still be durable. I'm not really looking to go ride trails solely with this I rarely do ride trails realistically. I'm looking to stay in the skatepark with this thing. Might be a gamble but as long as I can tailwhip air it out of quarters fine I'll be stoked. I think my ideal setup is the Holmes with the rest of the parts being new Factions if they actually release.
ssteinbr:
--- Quote from: therussianbabe;3607988 ---I just dont know if I believe the wheels and tires are lighter than the 20" and still be durable. I'm not really looking to go ride trails solely with this I rarely do ride trails realistically. I'm looking to stay in the skatepark with this thing. Might be a gamble but as long as I can tailwhip air it out of quarters fine I'll be stoked. I think my ideal setup is the Holmes with the rest of the parts being new Factions if they actually release.
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I think you are right. I have been on a holmes now since august. I had to true the stock wheels a few times and finally decided to put the rims on profile elite's and carefully hand build them. Since then they have been great. The innova tires are not bad if you keep them 60 to 65 psi. High psi causes the beads to start to pull out... the tires stretch at max 80 psi. Now that the tires have worn in (they wear fast too) they are gripping on wood ramps really well.
But I sooooo want the Faction rims and tires!
Heading out to ride at RaysMTB on this cold November morning. 22 is the future for BMX it is not a gimmick. And BTW what Faction said about going higher and farther jumping a 22 wheel is 100% true.
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