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ssteinbr:

--- Quote from: cmc4130;3546296 ---that's not uncommon with bigger wheeled bikes that also have short chainstays. (they have to bow out to accept the wheel that close to the bottom bracket).  the Liquid Feedback 24" is the same.  the Sunday Wave C 24" as well if I'm not mistaken.

check this out. just a little experiment as I'm waiting for my custom frame. an S&M 22" fork and 22" wheels on a We The People Avenger 24" frame (same geo as 1st gen Model C--21.25"tt, 13.75"bb). the shorter fork drops the bb a bit, but it still looks like a good height. and the head angle is not as affected as i thought it might be. it looks highly rideable. of course the brakes won't line up and you're not getting the benefit of a shorter cs designed around a 22" wheel.


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that looks great!  Do adaptors exist to make the brake work?

G:

--- Quote from: cmc4130;3546296 ---that's not uncommon with bigger wheeled bikes that also have short chainstays. (they have to bow out to accept the wheel that close to the bottom bracket).  the Liquid Feedback 24" is the same.  the Sunday Wave C 24" as well if I'm not mistaken.

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The WaveC will take a 28tooth no problem.

It is obviously important to allow for wheel size, so the 26t on a 22" is equivalent to a 28.6 tooth on a 20".


And the 28tooth on the 24" Sunday is equivalent to 30.5 on a 22" or 33.6 on a 20" ... which should be plenty for anyone.  
I have a 22tooth on mine but its pretty hilly here.

:)
G.

ssteinbr:

--- Quote from: G;3546583 ---The WaveC will take a 28tooth no problem.

It is obviously important to allow for wheel size, so the 26t on a 22" is equivalent to a 28.6 tooth on a 20".


And the 28tooth on the 24" Sunday is equivalent to 30.5 on a 22" or 33.6 on a 20" ... which should be plenty for anyone.  
I have a 22tooth on mine but its pretty hilly here.

:)
G.
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I like to run as close to 55 gear inches as possible.. on my 20" I run 36x13 on my model c I run 30x13.  When I rode Taj's proto wave c and then later Jim C's wave c the main reason I didn't upgrade from the model c to the wave c is the lack of chainwheel clearance.  

I like big chainwheels and big cogs not tall gearing.  I don't like wearing out my drivetrain quickly and also deal with massive tight/loose spots.

G:

--- Quote from: ssteinbr;3546585 ---I like to run as close to 55 gear inches as possible.. on my 20" I run 36x13 on my model c I run 30x13.  When I rode Taj's proto wave c and then later Jim C's wave c the main reason I didn't upgrade from the model c to the wave c is the lack of chainwheel clearance.  

I like big chainwheels and big cogs not tall gearing.  I don't like wearing out my drivetrain quickly and also deal with massive tight/loose spots.
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You cant have everything. We worked very hard to get good tyre and sprocket clearance and still have a nice strong back end that wouldn't twist or bend. Hence the wishbone and rectangular to round tapered (and dent resistant) chainstays. Seriously a lot of work went into them. If you are happy with the longer chainstay then stick with the frame you have, but personally I love the slightly shorter stays and 22/10 works great for me. The difference between a 9 tooth and a 10 is fairly substantial (in terms of chordal action etc) however the difference between a 10 and a 13 is pretty small.
http://chain-guide.com/basics/2-2-1-chordal-action.html (the difference between 9 and 8 is obviously enormous).

:)
G.

ssteinbr:
I really like that the model c has a longer cs.  I appreciate all of the work you guys put into the 24.  When I talked to the profile guys about an 11t elite driver they gave that wtf look.  Apparently nobody asked for them before... 28x12 could work for me if I ever get a wave c.

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