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PosiDave:
--- Quote from: pimpa$aurus;2911559 ---Look at the context it was written in. At the time there was no police force, you were allowed to raise militias in order to defend yourself, same with owning guns. That was the reason for the 2nd amendment being written. Today you have a police force yet still find the need to arm yourselves to the teeth, when in comparison there is next to nothing to arm yourselves against (of course apart from the government).
You can't go round talking about 'what the constitution was founded on' and go round quoting Jefferson, declaration of independence b2b slaveowner lol. Not to mention his lovely attitudes towards the Native population, handily whitewashed from much of todays history, 100m killed like its nothing.
The right to bear arms is at the root of much of your crime problems you joker, not the other way round.
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I will agree that whites did fuck over natives (American and Hawaiian) and that most of those who started this beloved country were hypocrites, liars and slave owners but simply taking away something from people who have done no wrong solves nothing. I could rant about socialist and anarchist views. Stricter regulations on those who have mental problems, Criminal records and domestic violence problems/ Gun shows and shops would solve more problem and also keep income. The American society is based off of crime and is set up to have crime happen because without it America would have a high unemployment rate imagine half the legal system workers. So you can't really point the problem at the guns but at the government and the people who continue actions.
joe p.:
Honestly, what is so fun about shooting guns at targets? I shot some 9mm rounds at a range in vegas and there was nothing exciting or enjoyable about it at all.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I'd much rather do pretty much anything than pay tons of money to stand in one spot and shoot at some circles printed on a piece of paper.
deathrow:
there are different types of shooting and training you can do that make it fun. S.W.A.T training for example... that shit is a blast. any specialized devision of law enforcement or military that utilizes specialized weapons is AWESOME!!!
eazy_tom:
--- Quote from: joe p.;2913536 ---Honestly, what is so fun about shooting guns at targets? I shot some 9mm rounds at a range in vegas and there was nothing exciting or enjoyable about it at all.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I'd much rather do pretty much anything than pay tons of money to stand in one spot and shoot at some circles printed on a piece of paper.
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Not everyone likes the same things.
Most people that own guns have fun shooting them.
Birdmane:
--- Quote from: paulie;2913440 ---for the record - i've no problems with people in the states having all sorts of guns, it makes total sense to me. i've fired some and can say it's not my bag. but i'm not into watching football or driving cars either, so whatever floats your boat as far as hobbies go.
as for protection, i'd probably have a gun if i lived in the states. every other cunt has one so you may aswell make it a level playing field. of course i'm more happy to not own one, but neither do 99% of the uk.
but my honest question to all you lot is - have you ever had to shoot someone? you all bang on about how you need them, what with crime being so bad and all the outlaws being tooled up. but has anyone been in the situation where you've needed that gun?
or do you think it's more like mutually assured destruction? where no one fucks with you in case you have a gun? so you end up with a type of unspoken stand off where crime is kept low due to everyone being able to shoot each other?
or is it something else like the need for security, paranoia, whatever?
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As a response to the statement that "every other cunt in the states has one," that is as much a generalization as saying that everyone in the UK has horrible teeth or something like that. The only people on the board that have strong views about firearms are the ones that own them.
Just because your country is different and all uptight about their crime rate, which has gone up a significant amount in the past 15 years, does not mean that it is a correct way to live or better than any other way.
Crime here isn't so bad, I would bet that I live in a safer area than you do. I don't need a gun, I have never needed a gun, but I like to have them just in case I ever do. I cannot carry concealed weapons in my state. America isn't like the fucking wild west.
Security has something to do with owning a gun, but paranoia? C'mon, maybe some people, but not most.
I don't like to argue about guns because I feel like its the same as abortion and just keeps getting thrown about.
There is nothing wrong with guns, there is something wrong with people that use them for evil purposes, and by the way, most of those are unregistered, illegal and people with felonies already.
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