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wheelr:
--- Quote from: Small Member;2907522 ---Man, get off this 'my right' thing.
Your argument is identical to why they wanted to own slaves.
Identical.
'Well, it's my right! It's in the Constitution!'
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No, it's not.
Keep trying.
Small Member:
--- Quote from: wheelr;2907554 ---No, it's not.
Keep trying.
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Keep trying at what?
You preach all the time how owning a gun is your 'right' because it's in the constitution. You have other reasons why you want a gun, and that's fine, but you always come down to the fact that it's your 'right'.
This is my observation based on the many discussions we've had on the topic.
--- Quote from: wheelr;2907554 ---
Well, to be fair to the citizens they should have just outlawed murder and gang activity instead of stripping the people's rights.
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And the only other thing that was in the constitution that protected the ownership of a specific thing was the right to own slaves. (Article 1, sections 4 and 9, and Article 4, section 2)
You argue that you are constitutionally entitled to own a specific item. In this case it is a firearm.
In their case, it was a human being.
I've always been against the second amendment as it is grossly misinterpreted today.
I've never had a problem with owning guns. I've had a problem with the idea that owning guns is a right of equal stature as the right to religion, freedom of speech, and all the other very important rights that protect a persons right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
super_chief:
--- Quote from: Small Member;2907603 --- and all the other very important rights that protect a persons right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of a collection of arms to fuel a militia.
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he he jkay.
couch:
I fail to see the problem with legally owning a gun. With the proper background check and the ten day waiting period it is very unlikely some nutjob is going to go thru the process of doing all that just to start trouble. Of course it is possible, but with the amount of registered gun owners.... its a very very small percentage of people with bad intent.
I'm surprised they haven't banned automobile use yet. I mean, people run from the cops in them right? People hit people while driving, people drive drunk, the list goes on and on and on. A gun is a tool, just like a hammer, just like a screwdriver, just like a kitchen knife. If it falls into the wrong hands shit will hit the fan. When used properly, whether it be for home defense, self defense, hunting, target shooting, sport, whatever it is fine. I don't care about "rights" or the constitution. Its more about reason and responsibility. If you're a hack, you shouldn't have a gun. If you're a solid dude with any legit reason to own one and you pass the state requirements, whats the problem?
wheelr:
--- Quote from: Small Member;2907603 ---Keep trying at what?
You preach all the time how owning a gun is your 'right' because it's in the constitution. You have other reasons why you want a gun, and that's fine, but you always come down to the fact that it's your 'right'.
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Ummmm, it is my right. The reason it is number two is to insure the protection of the other rights you love so much. I understand YOU don't think it should be a right but it has stood for over 200 years which to me is bolder than any statement you can make. My other reasons I cite for owning a firearm are just side benefits.
--- Quote from: Small Member;2907603 ---You argue that you are constitutionally entitled to own a specific item. In this case it is a firearm.
In their case, it was a human being.
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Ownership of an inanimate object and ownership of a human being is two entirely different things. Keep trying.
--- Quote from: Small Member;2907603 ---I've always been against the second amendment as it is grossly misinterpreted today.
I've never had a problem with owning guns. I've had a problem with the idea that owning guns is a right of equal stature as the right to religion, freedom of speech, and all the other very important rights that protect a persons right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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Can you explain how the second amendment is "grossly misinterpreted today"?
And sadly, the second isn't "a right of equal stature". One must go through a background check in order to purchase a firearm. One must follow hundreds of laws specifically addressing where, when, and how he can carry a firearm. Maybe we should require background checks in order to excercise one's freedom of speech and freedom of religion as well.
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