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master:
--- Quote from: deathrow;3455199 ---took a look at daniels defense and those are awesome. out of my price range though. i'm looking for something in the neighborhood of $700 or so. I can get bushmasters and a few others here for that price. i do know i want a carbine though.
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Bushmasters are fine rifles, the ones I've had were good to me.
master:
--- Quote from: couch;3455228 ---Its not a VFG. AFG's are good to go on pistol builds. I'd only need to fill out the NFA Form 4 if I was building an SBR or putting on a Vertical Forward Grip.
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--- Quote from: Birdmane;3455237 ---Be careful with that.
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There's an ATF letter somewhere that states that AFG's are good to go on a pistol.
And Ken: that'd be a perfect suppressor upper if you were up here in a free state.
BOUNCEHOUSE420:
--- Quote from: yacqueli;3455213 ---just know a carbine is going to need little things replaced sooner than later. Because the DI stroke of a carbine makes it wear faster. ( shorter stroke of the bolt. ) also remember you get what you pay for when it comes to guns. if you can save a little more then do so and get a DD.. Bushy stuff isnt bad but its none stock run of the mill stuff. also I would if i were you try to avoid delton stuff. Im kinda a snob when it comes to AR stuff but you gotta pay to play..
check my sig for my ar..
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seriously.... stay away from cheap stuff. when it comes to ARs you get what you pay for. i had a couple buddies buy no name uppers at the gun show and they turned out to be out of spec Chinese garbage. one of them didnt learn their lesson and bought a pistol upper there too. same deal! doesn't cycle and has to use the forward assist to get it into battery every shot. im sure its more of a hit or miss thing and it all can be "fixed" but why bother when youre not really saving much. whats another hundred bucks when youre already dropping over a grand. whenever i go shoot with them im glad i went bcm over 1500 rounds through it without a single issue.
couch:
--- Quote from: zane;3455243 ---There's an ATF letter somewhere that states that AFG's are good to go on a pistol.
And Ken: that'd be a perfect suppressor upper if you were up here in a free state.
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Exactly. Its not so much about what they say you can do, its about what they specifically say you can't do. This is clearly not a vertical foregrip. You can't even get your thumb around it. Its no different than putting a rail cover on the bottom rail.
The letter is around on nearly every gun forum. Google AR pistol Magpul AFG and you'll find it. It clearly states that AFG's are good to go.
The form 4 makes it very clear that vertical foregrips are no go.
Anyways, the guys price is dropping almost by the day. He's willing to part it out, which is good because I don't want the micro dot, mounts or any of the Magpul goodies in that color anyways.
Birdmane:
I was not unaware of the letter, I just wouldn't want any reason to be audited or looked into, if you went up against the ATF, regardless of letters, you can't win. It will be bad ass build though.
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