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Jame$:
It's not about arrogance. Arrogance doesn't even come into it apart from maybe your arrogant condescending posts.
It is about MANNERS, RESPECT and COMMON fucking Courtesy.
If you treated the kid properly maybe they wouldn't show up and trash your trails huh?
Oh and i'm sure that the "kids" (firstly barely any kids run sets of trails so shows what you know) Would definitely read a note saying "thought you trails were ace, if you'd like a hand digging phone this number" And think i know, the first thing i'll do is instead of getting this lad to help like he wants to which means i won't have to do as much work, i'll but this number on gay chat rooms and the likes. Sorry mate but that's just what you'd obviously do.
Gamlin's also bang on.
CARROTFVCKER:
--- Quote from: Kinchy;3280255 ---This makes more sense now then, I guess our riding scene is generally a lot smaller still.
But we still work on the idea of you have to give respect to receive respect.
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That would be great if everybody thought that way. Hell I wish it worked that way, the world would be a much better place. It just sucks that some people will dig and others wouldn't if you put a gun to thier head. I am just happy to have a place to dig and ride. After having so many places plowed I will deal with the shit just to be able to ride. And feel free if you ever come to the US, hit me up for directions to the trails. I will bring the beer
Kinchy:
Hit me up for directions and you can come to my trails.
Turn up, ride, take photos and leave without even so much as a recognition of who might be putting work in down there, and you won't be welcome.
CARROTFVCKER:
--- Quote from: Gamlin;3280299 ---Shut up. This is the stupid attitude that needs to be cut out. Because its what all the clueless kids think. When they stumble upon some trails: "doesn't matter man its not like its their land, they are just dicks with bad attitude".
When in reality it actually is THEIR private land they chipped in and work hard for, or spent THEIR time winning the landowners respect, then THEIR trails are ruined, all because of the bullshit attitude YOU have.
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Again things are far different here than over there. Kids here don't get permission to dig they just go do it. Which is why trails get plowed so much. If you have permission or it's YOUR land so be it that's a different ballgame. I know guys who have bought land just so they didn't have to deal with bullshit. I however found a spot in some woods with a couple guys and started digging. Later the land owner found them and told us as long as we kept it mellow and clean we could be there. We got lucky this time. I understand getting pissed about dudes just showing up and riding pissing you off but where does that get you? If somebody shows up to the trails and rides and doesn't fuck anything up kool, if they do fuck stuff up I will say something. Until somebody disrespects me shit is cool. I don't dig for them, I dig so I can ride
Allah:
As a rider I don't ride unless I've had a chat, and even then I feel very guilty riding without having done some work.
As a builder I don't mind people riding when some of us are about, if people are willing to fix stuff they break, pick their litter up and are decent guys. Hopefully prepared to dig a bit as well. We had some kids come over Easter who asked me and my mate "whether they were ready yet"!!! whilst we were digging. No mate, fuck off- but even then we didn't get aggro, bad attitudes equals stuff being trashed. We're chaining them this year though, mainly because its on private land so we don't want people getting hurt and sueing etc going on. Luckily the village doesn't have a train station so its pretty difficult for people to get out to them if they can't drive (and if you're old enough to drive and still riding you generally have a reasonable attitude, in my experience).
I'm always up for riding with new people though, after a few years where sessions have only consisted of two or three of us its difficult to remain too militant. And for the few people who do make it out to ride its just a one off thing- but if we had people every weekend who hadn't done any digging that would wind me up no end.
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